2.1 Bracketology | Page 2 | The Boneyard

2.1 Bracketology

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Nov 18, 2012
Messages
3,472
Reaction Score
8,610
LOL, no way they take a team as dangerous as cinci and match them up with Duke. It will be Cinci vs. Wichita St. They will drop them down a seed line to do so. Duke will get some schill mid range Pac team.

A mid range PAC team is more dangerous than Cinci. The PAC is probably the 2nd best conference this year behind the Big XII
 

OkaForPrez

Really Popular Poster
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
5,199
Reaction Score
26,681
A mid range PAC team is more dangerous than Cinci. The PAC is probably the 2nd best conference this year behind the Big XII
I think its debateable, but you are missing the non P5 vs. non P5 intentional matchup. They keep the credits in the family.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
2,657
Reaction Score
15,290
Some analysis based on Lunardi's work:

Bubble-ish teams

In: UConn, Gonzaga, Washington, LSU, Clemson, St. Joe's, Cal, Cuse, Seton Hall, UCLA (bold = last 4 in)

Out: Butler, FSU, GW, Vandy, Georgetown, Wisc, Stanford, Texas Tech,
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
9,343
Reaction Score
23,546
This is not something unique to this year, the bubble last year was horrific. Ok State was a 9 seed with an 18-13 record. UCLA got in with 13 losses and RPI of 50. An 8 loss Bosie State was given an at large.

While CBB has gained a lot of parity, the middle of it has been pretty mediocre for a few years now.

I agree with your main point (that people on this board tend to lose perspective within their UConn bubble), but I would argue that, relatively speaking, the bubble will be pretty tough this year. There are a handful of teams vying for those final spots - Syracuse, UConn, Cincinnati, LSU, Cal, UCLA, etc. - that really can beat anybody.
 

Silk31

CA$$$HHHHH
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
880
Reaction Score
2,415
I agree with your main point (that people on this board tend to lose perspective within their UConn bubble), but I would argue that, relatively speaking, the bubble will be pretty tough this year. There are a handful of teams vying for those final spots - Syracuse, UConn, Cincinnati, LSU, Cal, UCLA, etc. - that really can beat anybody.
We aren't talking how the bubble teams can potentially perform on the hardwood - we are talking resumes. We are aware of the parity this year and how wide open the field is. That is why all we need to do is get an invitation to the dance and we can go from there.

There won't be any brackets of death (i.e. being seeded in the upper part of UK's bracket a year ago). I won't care about any draw we might potentially have - no "top" team scares me more than the next
 

HuskyHawk

The triumphant return of the Blues Brothers.
Joined
Sep 12, 2011
Messages
32,016
Reaction Score
82,328
While I think UConn should get an invite if they play to expectations from here on out, I am wary of the American consistently being screwed by the committee. That's my only fear here. Each of the past two seasons, a deserving team in our conference has been left at home.
 
Joined
Sep 21, 2011
Messages
5,512
Reaction Score
13,311
I really don't care where they seed us . If we get the offense up where are defense is even if we're a 12 .It will be our opponents coach who will be having sleepless nights.He will be complaining to anyone who listens.
If not than our seed will be a moot point.
Enough If's lets just keep getting better.
 

RayIsTheGOAT

Sticks, to the rafters
Joined
Apr 5, 2015
Messages
2,945
Reaction Score
20,581
Some of you are way too optimistic. We are hanging on a thread right now. We still have to play SMUx2, Cinci, Memphis, Temple. We can beat any of those teams on a good night, but let's be realistic, it's likely going to come down to the AAC tourney again.
 

Silk31

CA$$$HHHHH
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
880
Reaction Score
2,415
Some of you are way too optimistic. We are hanging on a thread right now. We still have to play SMUx2, Cinci, Memphis, Temple. We can beat any of those teams on a good night, but let's be realistic, it's likely going to come down to the AAC tourney again.
You may say some are way too optimistic but I say there is way more pessimism on this board than is truly warranted.

Avoid the terrible loss and play the regular season out and I don't see how it would come down to win the AAC tourney or stay home again. We would have to lose every game that you mentioned for that to happen - have a little faith

FWIW I'm an eternal pessimist but majority of these bracket projections have us in the field with some buffer
 

gtcam

Diehard since '65
Joined
Sep 12, 2012
Messages
10,987
Reaction Score
29,041
Once UConn is in the dance it's let's take on all comers
I don't give a rats who UConn plays because if they play good D and not make WTF mistakes, they can play with most anyone.
Why waste time, energy and stress on suppositions?
We have seen in 2011 and 2014 that it makes no difference - bring UConn your best shot - I don't care if this team isn't like 2014 because most on this board said the same thing about 2014 vs 2011
I just want to see them get the invite
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2015
Messages
2,392
Reaction Score
8,800
With the 2011 and 2014 teams I was always very concerned as the seasons progressed that UConn had way too many wasted possessions on offense. Just like I am with this team. In fact, I watched St Johns destroy Kemba and company at MSG late in the season and thought the season was pretty much over. But Kemba had other plans and so did Napier. I'm not sure if this team has the killer who is ready to put the team on his back late and make a run. However, there is a lot of basketball left to be played and if we can get in, you never know what can happen. As we know!
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
2,828
Reaction Score
5,065
I think the plan this year is to get an even lower seed than 2011 and 14, so that we can break the record for the lowest seed to win a National Championship. Don't forget, you heard it right here first. Hum...I foretold the 11 straight wins in 2011 before the BET began and I think I said a why not in 2014. Okay, I really don't believe it this time, but who knows. It worked in 2011 & 14 so why not again in 2016? The field is pretty weak this year. A lot of flawed teams. And now that we have Brimah back, maybe things will come together down the stretch and we squeak into the Tourney on a roll. Our Defense has come along and is among the best in the country and that was built without Brimah. Now if we can only fix our dreadful half-court offense. A little consistency from Gibbs. Hamilton getting his shooting touch back would really help. Adams continuing to improve and become a more consistent offensive threat. Brimah making our D even tougher, plus some added inside scoring would really help. Maybe I can talk both myself and the rest into thinking we can make the tourney and apply some Husky punishment on the field yet again.
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2011
Messages
555
Reaction Score
1,140
While I think UConn should get an invite if they play to expectations from here on out, I am wary of the American consistently being screwed by the committee. That's my only fear here. Each of the past two seasons, a deserving team in our conference has been left at home.

While that was the case with Louisville in 2014, I remember SMU having a very soft OOC schedule, which hurt their seeding last year. I know that they were much better than a six seed, but the NCAA will punish you for not playing a tough OOC schedule (and reward those who play a tough OOC).
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
9,550
Reaction Score
28,283
While that was the case with Louisville in 2014, I remember SMU having a very soft OOC schedule, which hurt their seeding last year. I know that they were much better than a six seed, but the NCAA will punish you for not playing a tough OOC schedule (and reward those who play a tough OOC).

Louisville wasn't screwed in 2014, they barely played anyone in non-conference and of the teams they did, UNC/MSU/UK, they lost all 3 convincingly. SMU actually put together a decent non-conference schedule last year, they just lost most of the marquee games while Kennedy was out the first semester.
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Messages
819
Reaction Score
1,764
Id give my left nut for that matchup. Nova always looks great in-season but wilt in the face of Huskies and just tourney pressure in general.

Agreed. This is probably the best matchup for us out of all of the one seeds. Fingers crossed for a bracket similar to this come March.
 
Joined
Apr 25, 2014
Messages
5,292
Reaction Score
19,788
Louisville wasn't screwed in 2014, they barely played anyone in non-conference and of the teams they did, UNC/MSU/UK, they lost all 3 convincingly. SMU actually put together a decent non-conference schedule last year, they just lost most of the marquee games while Kennedy was out the first semester.

Every advanced metric had Louisville as a top-3 team that year. They got screwed.
 
Joined
Aug 31, 2011
Messages
2,957
Reaction Score
5,401
Nice to see that both Lunardi and Palm have us in the top half of their brackets today.

On a more scary note, check out last year's final bracket matrix. http://bracketmatrix.com/matrix_2015.html

122 of the 136 brackets had Temple in the field and 14 had UCLA in. Temple's resume wasn't as solid as people like to think - nothing impressive OOC besides Kansas and 1-6 against SMU, Tulsa and Cinci - but it's pretty scary that UCLA got in. They were 8-5 OOC with no good wins and outside of a couple decent home wins, basically just accumulated wins against bad PAC-12 teams.
 

SubbaBub

Your stupidity is ruining my country.
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
32,156
Reaction Score
24,782
We are 4-6 vs the top 100 RPI. Pu-pu it all you like it still reflects who you played and how you played them. We are also 1-2 vs the top 50.

Our profile us based on 4 decent wins, 2 OOC, 1 on the road, 1 neutral floor and having no bad losses. The second we lose to anyone not named SMU, Temple or Cincinnati that goes out the window along with any hope for an at large bid as others take down top level teams.

We also need to win most of the remaining games, because 4 Top 100 wins is not a resume that demands to be in the dance.

We catch a break because we haven't lost to a truly horrible team and because the bubble is pretty soft, but that only put more on to the committee where we have no friends.

There will be an extra bubble spot because of Louisville and that could be big.
 
Joined
Apr 25, 2014
Messages
5,292
Reaction Score
19,788
Nice to see that both Lunardi and Palm have us in the top half of their brackets today.

On a more scary note, check out last year's final bracket matrix. http://bracketmatrix.com/matrix_2015.html

122 of the 136 brackets had Temple in the field and 14 had UCLA in. Temple's resume wasn't as solid as people like to think - nothing impressive OOC besides Kansas and 1-6 against SMU, Tulsa and Cinci - but it's pretty scary that UCLA got in. They were 8-5 OOC with no good wins and outside of a couple decent home wins, basically just accumulated wins against bad PAC-12 teams.

Temple was #54, #63, #62, and #67 by KenPom, BPI, Sagarin, and SRS respectively. The committee isn't as beholden to RPI as they used to be, and folks who think that RPI is going to determine tournament seeding are going to continue to be mistaken.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
59
Guests online
3,278
Total visitors
3,337

Forum statistics

Threads
156,994
Messages
4,076,030
Members
9,965
Latest member
deltaop99


Top Bottom