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I'll put my "husky for life" credentials against anyone on the Boneyard, but I don't have the hubris to declare myself the arbitrator of who gets to be considered and husky and who doesn't.
Haha - I have declared myself the arbiter for ME. Everyone else is free to have their own opinion. I'm just saying I'm GOING to have my own opinion and not feel compelled to jump on the "Husky for Life" bandwagon if I don't see it that way.
 
So you're saying she ran away because she was butthurt? She didn't want to put in the effort to fix the problems?

Butthurt is such a vulgar, ugly word! And, no I don't believe there was anything silly about her feelings and/or reaction. I believe she looked upon the ND game as a guiding light into what the next season might be for her and decided to take her talents elsewhere.
 
Butthurt is such a vulgar, ugly word! And, no I don't believe there was anything silly about her feelings and/or reaction. I believe she looked upon the ND game as a guiding light into what the next season might be for her and decided to take her talents elsewhere.
Ok, so you are saying you think she was butthurt and not willing to fix the problems. Ok, your opinion; I just don't agree with it.
 
Butthurt is such a vulgar, ugly word! And, no I don't believe there was anything silly about her feelings and/or reaction. I believe she looked upon the ND game as a guiding light into what the next season might be for her and decided to take her talents elsewhere.
Exactly--well said. The ND game no doubt was a statement game for Azura.
 
Ok, so you are saying you think she was butthurt and not willing to fix the problems. Ok, your opinion; I just don't agree with it.

Repeat yourself much? Glad I finally got through to you. That's what we all do here...post our opinions. Glad you also figured that out. Wow! You're having a really good day.
 
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I did not read the article until my e-mail stuck it in my face. My guess is she still feels a cold breeze coming out of CT. If this "some things I might have done differently" is an apology Azura, lemme tell you: You suck at it.
 
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That's why I said "We don't know", not you. There is rarely if ever any talk about off court issues with any player, and usually it's we fans who speculate. Sometimes for years. Tell me, what were the personal reasons that Lexi Brown left Maryland? Did she share that with you? AEH is another prime example of someone who's off court issues were the prime component of her dismissal. Did any of us know of this stuff before she was shown the door?

How do we know what Z's original commitment to Geno was? Maybe she told Geno "I would like to play two years for you", or "I expect to play two years for you" or "It's my intention to play two years for you", or anything of the like. Let me as you a question as any adult. Ever have a job or a commitment that you fully intended to fulfill, but circumstances, maybe something unexpected and out of your control, led to you not fulfilling it? I'm sure she gave her reasons to Geno and her teammates. Did you share those reasons with your boss or your co-workers? With the shareholders? I've done it, more than once, and I shared my reasons with no one on the job. Did you feel it was your responsibility to stick with that job or commitment no matter the cost to you? You see her leaving as a betrayal. I see it as a terrific young lady leading her life. Not yours.

Yeah, I think her game would have benefited by staying, and yeah, I think UConn's chances at a championship would have been good. However, your opinion that we could have won a championship if she stayed is the same one Houston fans had when they cite CP3's injury last year as the reason they lost to the Warriors. Well, CP3 and Harden were healthy this year, now what's your excuse?
Must be great to know it all. You seem to know everything and no one else can have any opinion that differs. I suspect these message boards are a tough read for you since there's so many of us idiots out there.
 
OK after reading all of this I will post my thoughts and opinion. Z did not or could not play the way Geno wanted. He was a grump all year from the stresses of that season and it likely caused UConn to lose recruits because of his grumbling. Without her last year he knew they would not be as good but was quoted as saying it was one of his most fun seasons and was upbeat almost always last year. The recruiting results I think reflect that.

It was reported that he met with Camara in January to ask about her plans. I assume he did that with z. She said she would be returning. It is my thought that together they decided she play very little and rest he leg as much as possible to be ready for a greater role this upcoming season. Seems like they agreed with that. I can't forget one of the interview I think with Lou during the post season when you could see basket after basket swishing in the background and just before the end of the inteview you saw it ws Camara doing it. Getting ready.

Losing Z was a loss for sure for the season but quite possibly in my view a gain for the program.
 
Must be great to know it all. You seem to know everything and no one else can have any opinion that differs. I suspect these message boards are a tough read for you since there's so many of us idiots out there.
Yep.
 
Must be great to know it all. You seem to know everything and no one else can have any opinion that differs. I suspect these message boards are a tough read for you since there's so many of us idiots out there.
By the way, you're the one that knows it all. I keep saying we don't know anything. But I'm glad to know you're sure of my certainty of nothing. Perhaps you can repost your quote to my girlfriend?
 
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Azura was selected 6th overall in the WNBA Draft, and in her rookie season, averaged 8.9ppg, 4.6rpg, and 20.6mpg.

She certainly could have gotten better with another year at UConn, but she proved she was ready for the WNBA last year, and playing against other pros every day is a hell of coaching experience too.
 
Yep, yeah, yes and certainly. I just don't get some people. Every move these kids make needs their personal approval. On the men's side Williamson and Barrett leave after one year. No one says "What a couple of traitors. We would have won next year if they'd stayed".
cause they can, some would jump right out of high school if the option was still available. With the W they must be a certain age and the money isn’t all that great to jump like the NBA. remember when Muffett was shocked when Loyd left?
 
FWIW, I don't fault Z at all for going. This time was right as shown by her draft position. That said, I really don't have much connection with her. Don't get me wrong I wish her well, but ... [shrug].
 
Transfer in and then leave early? That’s your prerogative, but I’d like us to have an NC to show for it before you’re anointed a “Husky for Life.”
I agree in theory, however I give a pass to someone like Butler who could not get their grad program at UConn.
 
I think AS would have been a much better player had she stayed. Draft position means nothing. She is supposed to have all world talent and I just have never seen it in her. She is a solid WNBA player. I just don't know if she will ever be the star she could have been. Time will tell.
 
Azura was selected 6th overall in the WNBA Draft, and in her rookie season, averaged 8.9ppg, 4.6rpg, and 20.6mpg.

She certainly could have gotten better with another year at UConn, but she proved she was ready for the WNBA last year, and playing against other pros every day is a hell of coaching experience too.

I think it wasn't really the $40 grand that she received for playing in the WNBA summer league, but the (?) $100k-plus that she earned playing overseas while Connecticut was playing their unpaid season. Don't know what she really earned overseas, but could be that she pocketed nearly $200k during the time she would have been prepping or playing for UConn.

For a pro athlete with the clock ticking on your career, can't overlook that.
 
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I'm glad she left, I'd be pissed as well sitting on the bench in crunch time!
I agree with you DC. Let's add some other points to this lack of playing time overall. Azura should have averaged at least 32 minutes a game easily with her talent and this is without garbage minutes. If she played these minutes from the start it would have made a huge difference by the end of the year.
Geno didn't use AS like he should have and that is why she left.
 
I agree with you DC. Let's add some other points to this lack of playing time overall. Azura should have averaged at least 32 minutes a game easily with her talent and this is without garbage minutes. If she played these minutes from the start it would have made a huge difference by the end of the year.
Geno didn't use AS like he should have and that is why she left.
... and you know that is why she left how exactly?

Let me submit an alternative theory. Z talked with her advisers and did a little due diligence and discovered that she was going to be a top 10 draft pick and made her decision to leave based on that. She was drafted 6 and averaged 14+ points. It sure seems like that was a sensible decision. To me that makes more sense than her sulking and leaving because she believed she should get more minute.

I love when people talk about playing time as if it some God given right. It isn't. When my kids were young I would tell them if they wanted more playing time, earn it. Make every minute that you play so valuable that your coaches can't afford to take you out. That approach served them well.
 
... and you know that is why she left how exactly?

It's called using common sense! Didn't you ever play an athletic game and felt you weren't being used properly ... over and over again, game after game? If so. then you'd have a clue as to one of the main reasons (if not the only reason) she left. Her options were: (1) putting up with that crap for another season and maybe winning a NC, or (2) opt out and start making tons of money immediately playing pro ball. As for those of you wanting evidence, seriously didn't any of you actually watch the games or were you simply eating popcorn? It shouldn't take a mental giant to figure out why she left, just watch the games! Geez guys, c'mon now.
 
It's called using common sense!
Ah so no basis for it. I see.

FWIW, great players, heck even good players, aren't particularly afraid of competition. That's part of what makes them great. It seem more reasonable then to believe that Azura left because the timing for the mover made sense. She has never said differently. I respectfully suggest that those who believe that she was sulking over playing time are probably projecting their own frustrations on her.
 
... and you know that is why she left how exactly?

Let me submit an alternative theory. Z talked with her advisers and did a little due diligence and discovered that she was going to be a top 10 draft pick and made her decision to leave based on that. She was drafted 6 and averaged 14+ points. It sure seems like that was a sensible decision. To me that makes more sense than her sulking and leaving because she believed she should get more minute.

I love when people talk about playing time as if it some God given right. It isn't. When my kids were young I would tell them if they wanted more playing time, earn it. Make every minute that you play so valuable that your coaches can't afford to take you out. That approach served them well.
so Z didn't earn playing time... if she didnt in the past she def earned it in her last game wearing a UConn uniform
 
Ah so no basis for it. I see.

FWIW, great players, heck even good players, aren't particularly afraid of competition. That's part of what makes them great. It seem more reasonable then to believe that Azura left because the timing for the mover made sense. She has never said differently. I respectfully suggest that those who believe that she was sulking over playing time are probably projecting their own frustrations on her.
you really think she'd say she left because she was glued to the bench in the 2nd half vs Notre Dame and it pissed her off?
 
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you really think she'd say she left because she was glued to the bench in the 2nd half vs Notre Dame and it pissed her off?
No, DC, and that's exactly my point. She left because her and her advisers thought the timing was right for her. They were correct.
 
Well in my opinion, the handling, or mishandling of Azura Stevens falls solely with Geno. You can't blame her for bolting to the WNBA when she's projected to be a top-ten pick. We can speculate with the "what-if" as to whether UConn would have won another championship this year with Azura--possibility so. But we needn't speculate much on the season before--had Geno played Azura more, we almost assuredly would have won. Azura played little more than half a game (20.9 minutes per game), yet she averaged nearly 15 ppg and 7 rebounds. Let's extrapolate those numbers to full-game minutes, and Azura would have a very extraordinarily, dynamic season.

In the semi against Notre Dame, her plus/minus was phenomenal, (as was pointed out several times by the game announcers who were all but stupefied that Azura was getting so little playing time). Yet Geno choose to stick to his player hierarchy and only give her spot duty. I know he tries to be loyal to his starters and all, but unlike Gabby and Kia, Crystal was only a sophomore, so she had two full years ahead of her--it was imminently obvious that the Huskies were a much better team against ND with Azura on the court, Kia running point and Crystal coming off the bench..

Without a doubt, had Azura played more minutes, UConn has its 12th national championship. I know it's heresy to second-guess an absolute legend, but it was Geno's lack of flexibility, perhaps mixed with an overshot of misplaced loyalty and tradition that caused the loss--and perhaps played a factor in Azura leaving early... So if in hindsight, Azura could have done some things differently, so too could have Geno...
Yes
 
No, DC, and that's exactly my point. She left because her and her advisers thought the timing was right for her. They were correct.

I don't get why some folks seem to think she should have stayed. She was graduating, so if she stayed, she would have had to enroll in grad school. I don't know about anybody else, but some college students have had enough of school after what, 16 or more straight years of it. Maybe she was one of those. Plus she had an opportunity to get paid a lot of money for playing a game instead of being in grad school making no money.

A pro basketball career is a finite experience. You are constantly subject to suffering a career ending or affecting injury. Any year you give up is a lost year you can never get back again, in a short window to earn money doing it. If you really want to go to grad school for any reason, you can do that anytime.
 
Interesting to hear it in her own words. Still, Not sure it clarifies much. Geno said explicitly he was surprised so nothing learned there and nothing really clarifying her decision but I do think she really had a hard decision and did not try to
"hoodwink" anybody.
No insult to the poster, but!!!
I don't see how this is NEWS. So, she thinks she surprised GENO ---A YEAR AGO. Who cares at this point. We have 5 or 6 New kids who will play and give Geno a year of excitement--I don't linger on those are gone or never were. Z was a great shooter, never fulfilled the expectations. Move forward on ward and up ward. Z is gone.
 
I'll put my "husky for life" credentials against anyone on the Boneyard, but I don't have the hubris to declare myself the arbitrator of who gets to be considered Husky and who doesn't.
I'll take a piece of this! I don't know if I'll be a Husky for life after 60 plus some, I have not lived it all just yet. You cheer husky, you play husky, you are a husky-- you don't have to love all Geno or Jim or a dozen coaches prior or 200 players prior do or have done that doesn't make one a husky. Fan's critique every word every action every game and still love the Huskies. Only Hitler demanded purity in his followers who did so without wavering for fear for their lives.
 
Geno said he never bothered to apply. As to all the others that think she deserves an asterisk, let's not forget. Z may have played for only one year, but she was here for two. To me that's enough to qualify as a Husky for life. I frankly hope she goes on to be an all star.
Geno didn't bother for a waiver because she needed that year to become a husky i.e. learn how Geno's offense and defense is played. I question whether that year may be helpful to unlearn Holly for Westbrook, at times Holly's teams looked like the players were running the show that doesn't work with Geno.
 
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