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Xavier Post Game Thread

NickDanger said:
Much like the refs, I didn't see any flagrant… Until I watch the replay a couple of times, then I saw that Smith clearly pushed him. The exact same thing the refs saw.
When I heard them call the flagrant I said to my wife "what? That's ridiculous!" Then they showed the replay, and I said "oh they're right, that was a shove."
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I kind of agree though I thought when the whistle first blew that they were calling a block on Smith. He clearly fouled the Xavier guy though I think it shouldn’t have been called flagrant. What I thought happened was once they reviewed it the saw Smith clearly committed a foul and they missed it. So given that UConn had the game in hand and they couldn’t call a common foul they basically called the flagrant to get around the problem. I’m guessing if it was 65-63 they don’t make that call.
 
RuffRuff said:
Try not to - love the kids stroke. But last night he had a lot of open looks and missed pretty badly on them. He's shooting 28% - that is a really bad number.
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I think it’s another case where if you watch the games, you can see how he has gotten to where he is. Early season, it seemed like he was taking a high volume of low-percentage 3’s, plus it seemed like he was always trying to draw fouls on his 3s. Likely a function of teams hawking him this year as the team’s best 3pt shooter based on last year’s phenomenal shooting on a large sample size. A decent sample of less-than-quality shots put him below 30%.

Then, he clearly got hurt in the Butler game. And has probably aggravated it here-and-there. I think he’s been taking better quality looks, but who knows what effect his wrist is having on ability on those looks. So he’s still below 40%.

Honestly, I’d love if we could just rest him after STJ for the Butler, GTown, Creighton stretch to try and get him healthy and straightened out for the stretch run into the post season.
 
aceboon said:
At this point we need to treat last season as Solo's fluke 3pt shooting year. He's had 20+ games to get it going, shot allocation needs to be dialed back.
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There is a quantifiable chance that his 3pt shooting last year was a total fluke. It’s more than 0%, but I don’t think the “true” story on Solo is that he is really a sub-30% 3pt shooter
 
JustbrewitMan said:
There is a quantifiable chance that his 3pt shooting last year was a total fluke. It’s more than 0%, but I don’t think the “true” story on Solo is that he is really a sub-30% 3pt shooter
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32% as a freshman without using arbitrary cutoff points(that 45% figure that was thrown out in this thread isn't even factual), now 29% as a junior on a 3ball that has been broke since October(unless the new BY narrative is that he's had a wrist issue all year). I would love to see him go nuclear to cap off the season but this is probably a topic we'll have to re-visit next season.
 
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aceboon said:
32% as a freshman without using arbitrary cutoff points(that 45% figure that was thrown out in this thread isn't even factual), now 29% as a junior on a 3ball that has been broke since October(unless the new BY narrative is that he's had a wrist issue all year). I would love to see him go nuclear to cap off the season but this is probably a topic we'll have to re-visit next season.
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You don’t shoot how he shot last season and be a bad shooter. I think that close to impossible. Something is off, but if you recall he was arguably the best shooter in CBB last season. Fluky would be if he shot around 35-36%. He was undeniably a dominant elite shooter last season. And the year before you could clearly see that potential as well. He didn’t get many opportunities after the OOC schedule.
 
KingAG said:
You don’t shoot how he shot last season and be a bad shooter. I think that close to impossible. Something is off, but if you recall he was arguably the best shooter in CBB last season. Fluky would be if he shot around 35-36%. He was undeniably a dominant elite shooter last season. And the year before you could clearly see that potential as well. He didn’t get many opportunities after the OOC schedule.
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Totally - and he has beautiful form. Kid was actually shooting around 44% up until the last few weeks. The kid is in a funk. It started a couple games before the BE tourney last year, shot 30% over his last 6 after being about 44-45 most of the year.

At some point you have to make a call when you have alternatives. If he's shooting 28% going into the last week, you might have to make adjustments.
 
I tend to think having 4 3pt shooters (Silas, Solo, Alex, Braylon) plus Reed, Jr., and all are moving in our heavy motion offense, it's really hard to guard all 4 and still seem to be able to double team Reed, Jr.

Reed, Jr., had a number of layups, dunks, and short shots vs Xavier, and we saw what happens if Silas is just unaccounted for on the 3pt line (as well as Ross).

And I keep saying with out top 5 defense we get more stops thus we get more offensive chances:
Xavier - 18/49 shooting, 8 O Rebs contributed
UConn - 34/60 shooting, 12 O Rebs contributed

Our shots made is closer to their shots taken (-15 diff) then their shots made (+16 diff)! We also had 26 assists for those 34 shots!

So given we get more chances means more shots, means on any given night we get pretty good looks, we score more and win.

Keep this going on Friday night and just get some of our shooters open looks and we will rock. Plus Tarris has been really good against Zuby.
 
28 and 15 from the 5 spot would be a problem for any opponent.
 
Icehawk said:
Beatdown mode: ENABLED.

Did you guys see the Reed stat? I forget the exact # but he's like 19/20 over the last 3 games. Braylon looked incredible tonight!
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Those rainbows are one thing. The tips and steals and pesky D for a kid that slight is definitely another. The kid has springs in his shoes.
 
aceboon said:
that 45% figure that was thrown out in this thread isn't even factual)
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The game logs I looked at didn’t include the postseason. My bad, I guess. 16-36 is 44.4%. Include the postseason and it drops to 40%. And while it’s somewhat arbitrary it’s pretty easy to build the narrative that once he got his feet wet after being thrown into heavy minutes as a freshman that were never intended for him, he shot the ball pretty darn well. And he shot over 40% for about 1 and 3/4 seasons consecutively.

Seems like far less of an anomaly when you look at it that way.
 
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Jaydumo20 said:
Metrics crack me up. I remember watching a baseball game a few years ago where they had this ticker by the scorebox showing the % chance each team had to win the game.
It was Rays vs Orioles.
The Rays were up 8-1 in the 7th and the tracker said that the O's now had a 0% chance to win the game. They ended up scoring 4 runs in the 8th and the analytics updated to the O's now having a 30% chance to win

If you have ZERO chance to win.....ummm...
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Like when the weather apps say 0% or 100% chance of precipitation… not so!
 
uconnblueinky said:
I wasn't trying to argue or morph this thread into anything , it just caught my attention during the press conference , seemed a little off and figured this was a place where I could ask people who have better knowledge, a question about it. That's all
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Not you, just in general we all like to have something to be agreeably disagreeable about.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Didn't get that sense at all. Reibe loves being here from what I've heard and the plan is for him to start next year. Non issue.
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Hurley definitely spoke about it as if there’s problems in the Reibe camp. There was no reason for Hurley to go there unless some issue exists. Hurley implied that the minutes Reibe’s getting and/or his role on the court isn’t something the Reibe circle is pleased with.
 
DRBackup said:
I'm really not in favor of Mullins super quick threes from 30 feet any more than more threes from Solo. GOOD shots should be the goal.
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I will take his real quick shots shooting 39% over the 29% we are presently getting from Ball. I still want ball to shoot but doing more 2's while driving incluinding his midrange shots he gets off a few dribbles.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
Metrics crack me up. I remember watching a baseball game a few years ago where they had this ticker by the scorebox showing the % chance each team had to win the game.
It was Rays vs Orioles.
The Rays were up 8-1 in the 7th and the tracker said that the O's now had a 0% chance to win the game. They ended up scoring 4 runs in the 8th and the analytics updated to the O's now having a 30% chance to win

If you have ZERO chance to win.....ummm...
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Absolutely useless garbage pretending to be information. Similar to Bracketology and NFL mock drafts in September.
 
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Jaydumo20 said:
Metrics crack me up. I remember watching a baseball game a few years ago where they had this ticker by the scorebox showing the % chance each team had to win the game.
It was Rays vs Orioles.
The Rays were up 8-1 in the 7th and the tracker said that the O's now had a 0% chance to win the game. They ended up scoring 4 runs in the 8th and the analytics updated to the O's now having a 30% chance to win

If you have ZERO chance to win.....ummm...
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0% looks nicer to show on the scorebug than 0.34345765% so they round the number
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Yeah, Hurleys postgame comments about Reibe and his inner circle were a bit troubling.
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Hard to know - was vague enough to be nothing. His camp having an issue would be surprising as I’m not sure what the expectation was. He’s getting 16.5 mpg behind an all league senior. If there is a problem then it would seem unrealistic. Clingan got less time.
 
The way to scrub out “flukes” is to zoom out. Solo Ball has shot about 450 three pointers in his career here and he’s shot them about 36%

It’s pretty good. Not GOAT shooter level but pretty good. Pretty close to Karaban’s career 38.0% and Braylon’s current 38.0%. Good enough for me to feel that a 4-10 or 5-11 game is coming soon given what I’ve seen him do with my own eyes

But Solo is still our leading scorer because the threat of the shot opens up the rest. If you stop shooting, there’s no more threat. Eliminate the forced threes for sure but definitely keep taking the good looks in the flow of the offense. Only way to break the slump is to start making them
 
3rdbass said:
Well he could change how he approaches the plays that are called for him and instead of forcing 3s decided to attack the basket or dish the ball to someone who has a better shot. With the offensive players we have on the team there is no reason he should be forcing a lot of 3s if not really open.
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You really think he is forcing 3's? Seems to me his is mostly just missing open ones. Everyone who shoots the ball will have some ill-advised decisions from time to time. You have to live with that to some extent. They aren't robots. But from my perspective Ball's problems are less about shot selection and more about execution. At some point though you have to adjust if what you are doing is not working. What's that they say about the definition of insanity?
 
BFieldHusky said:
Didn't get that sense at all. Reibe loves being here from what I've heard and the plan is for him to start next year. Non issue.
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Agreed, unless Reibe's camp was hoping he would be one and done. Is that impossible to think for a McDonald's All-American?
 
Donyell 360 said:
Agreed, unless Reibe's camp was hoping he would be one and done. Is that impossible to think for a McDonald's All-American?
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If you listen to anyone, he had a poor senior season and dropped in the rankings. I'm sure Dan Hurley set expectations as well. I can't think he was thinking OAD in this class. I would wager to guess he'll hit the draft next year.
 
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aceboon said:
32% as a freshman without using arbitrary cutoff points(that 45% figure that was thrown out in this thread isn't even factual), now 29% as a junior on a 3ball that has been broke since October(unless the new BY narrative is that he's had a wrist issue all year). I would love to see him go nuclear to cap off the season but this is probably a topic we'll have to re-visit next season.
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Good lord. I know math is hard, but you do understand that both years combined are STILL less than the sample size from last season. He shot 41.4% on 239 attempts last season. This season and his freshman season - COMBINED - he has 215 attempts. So, yes, I'm still going with the larger sample size, especially since it does not include an injury to the wrist on his shooting hand.
 
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