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HuskyHawk said:
Seems like the kid has his priorities straight. Namely, not football. Whether we love to hate them, and whether their staff is a disaster or not, the university is a very highly regarded academic institution, with a very appealing campus, a short green line trip into the #1 college city in the country. He probably appreciates that it's Jesuit like Xavier and he has family in town. Shouldn't surprise anyone. High school kids who make college decisions based solely on athletics are morons or are getting bad advice.

As a side note, the QB history, Flutie, Hasselback, Hasselback, Foley & Ryan...isn't exactl awful.
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I think that pretty much sums up my reaction. I also think it's a unfortunate that we come out second to BC when it's pretty clear we've been going in the right direction and have surpassed BC in most sports excepting hockey (for now). Boyle was my favorite CT player and I wish him well. Hopefully we've left a good impression in case things don't work out as planned. The young man has great potential.
 
P's recruiting style has been without question more aggressive to date than edsall ever tried to be. I think we all wanted that change in direction, and whether that materializes into outstanding results immediately is, to me at least immaterial. BL to point out at every turn that we still aren't landing all our first options just kind of diminishes the effort our staff has put out and is sort of unfairly negative...especially since we are in more recruits final lists and less of our recruits are sheer projects no ones ever heard of.
 
freescooter said:
I didn't know that his son was attending UCONN. I don't recall him being a high D1 recruit either, so I'm not sure that proves much. I also didn't say anything about "hating UCONN." But I have spoken to Marinan on a few occassions about football in general and UCONN football in particular and I'm just giving you how I've interpreted his view based on those conversations. We've sat togther at a function. We've met a time or two at other events. We don't hang out together. We're not friends, so maybe he is not giving me his "true" take....And I don't know anything about his view of UCONN as a university, but rather his view of the football program...he still considers it small time and he isn't going to encourage his better recruits to select UCONN over other major programs. Maybe that changes over time, maybe not. As to the kid choosing BC, that's fine. I'm disappointed but I'm not sure he would se the field for 3-4 years anyway with the players we currently have and any we migh trecruit after him. That , by the way also entered his decision I bet. But if you don't think kids' coaches, and their guidance people and so forth also influence where they go to school, why was it such a big deal that the high school coaches like Pasqualoni? and that many of them didn't care for Edsall? Of course the family, and ultimately the kid himself make the final decisions...but the smart ones take advice from those others too.
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Not that Dez is gospel but sure sounds like things are changing...Xavier-Middletown Coach Sean Marinan: Things Are Better With UConn (http://courantblogs.com/uconn-footb...ch-sean-marinan-things-are-better-with-uconn/)
 
BL just really liked our former coach. That's all I think it is.

Coach P is a totally different kind of guy, and when it comes to everything. This 2013 recruiting class will be his first full year cycle recruiting class at UConn focused on high schoolers.

So far we've got 3 H.S. commits in early June 2012. Solid guys. Multipe stars if you're into that. We've got a couple guys out there on the back burners from last year. Solid guys. All of them BIG. coming in. We've had a turnover of the roster, from spring 2011 through spring 2012 and going into fall 2012, that is nothing short of amazing. I think we'll see something like close to 50 new scholarship faces on the field by the fall 2012 from fall 2011. THat's not an exaggeration. On simple eye test, we're bigger, faster, and stronger across the board from #1s to #4s in every position group (except QB) and practice squad - than we've been in anytime in the past 10 years.

We went 5-7 last year, with a rag-tag team that gave every bit they had, and a coaching staff that barely knew anything about them going into the season, and were in every single game to the end except one.

I think we're in for good things in 2012 and beyond - and it all - absolutely - has to do with improved recruiting.
 
BL is just logical and speaks objectively and isnt always ball washing every move UConn makes or doesn't make. He praises when he feels they deserve praise and bashes when they deserve bashing. He should be lecturing because he actually has stuff to say that informs and educates
 
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21Huskies said:
BL is just logical and speaks objectively and isnt always ball washing every move UConn makes or doesn't make. He praises when he feels they deserve praise and bashes when they deserve bashing. He should be lecturing because he actually has stuff to say that informs and educates
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Especially important that BL advise when topics are unnecessary/inappropriate. Good to have a self appointed arbitrator of sensibleness and the only accurate and unbiased historian of the fhcRE exceptional coaching era monitoring the board and correcting others as needed.
 

1. Of course I'm not surprised.

2. Anything that points to any limitations on the program is viewed by some as apologizing for Edsall. Not my problem, but yes, I understand there are many who can't view things yet except through the prism of what it says about Edsall.

3. Whomever our coach is, losing Connecticut recruits to BC, at this point in time, says something different than losing Connecticut kids to Florida or Notre Dame, and says something other than now we've fixed our deficiency to keep our top players in state. Period.
 
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Losing a kid to BC doesn't really say much of anything really. He says he has family in that area. And as laughable as some may find it, Boyle might have a hard time getting PT here in the next few years. I don't really see it as a comment on our recruiting ability.
 
businesslawyer said:
....... losing Connecticut recruits to BC, at this point in time, says something different than losing Connecticut kids to Florida or Notre Dame, and says something other than now we've fixed our deficiency to keep our top players in state. Period.
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Huh....

You cannot possibly mean that our recruiting efforts against BC are similar to those against the likes of ND or Florida. We are leveling the playing field against BC. If the conference issue ever fully shakes out it will be game, set, match UCONN. Until then, I expect we'll hold our own against them.

FWIW I think the Broyle thing is being overblown here and my guess is the UCONN coaches can live with this one given what's in house. I also think BC is going to have trouble holding onto commitments given what's going on there and I will be curious to see who actually ends up there after this season.
 
As CTMike says, this may be evidence not of recruiting weakness, but of how good our recruiting has become - that last year's two QB's, Whitmer and Cochran, made it hard to bring in another good one this year.

Connecticut may not be at the Michigan/OSU/Alabama/etc level that can bring in a top player at every position every year. But if we can bring in a top player every 2 years, we'll still have a great team.

Boyle had lots of personal reasons to favor BC and you have to respect that. A single player's choice doesn't necessarily reflect on UConn.
 
pj said:
As CTMike says, this may be evidence not of recruiting weakness, but of how good our recruiting has become - that last year's two QB's, Whitmer and Cochran, made it hard to bring in another good one this year.

Connecticut may not be at the Michigan/OSU/Alabama/etc level that can bring in a top player at every position every year. But if we can bring in a top player every 2 years, we'll still have a great team.

Boyle had lots of personal reasons to favor BC and you have to respect that. A single player's choice doesn't necessarily reflect on UConn.
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So Boyle was afraid to compete with 2 kids that have never taken a college snap.

I honestly cannot believe some of the stuff I read on here.
 
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Not saying he was afraid at all. Just that, for a variety of reasons, this particular recruit chose BC. Family seems to be one. Better opportunity for PT may be another. And I don't think that reflects poorly on our recruiting.
 
I think this thread has run its course, maybe Dan should lock it, time to move on.
 
Maybe Boyle had the same amount of commitableness for us as Cochrane did for them.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
So Boyle was afraid to compete with 2 kids that have never taken a college snap.

I honestly cannot believe some of the stuff I read on here.
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Nobody's saying afraid. At the same time, players like to play. BC is wide open at QB, Boyle could be a four-year starter there.

Whitmer took a lot of snaps in his redshirt year at Illinois, year of JC, and spring practice at UConn. By the time Boyle would arrive, Whitmer would have a season on the field. I know you mean "FBS game snaps," but it's misleading to suggest there's not an experience difference between the two.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
So Boyle was afraid to compete with 2 kids that have never taken a college snap.

I honestly cannot believe some of the stuff I read on here.
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If you think QB's don't take a look at the current depth chart to try and guage future playing time then you are lost. If all goes according to plan Boyle would not have been named the starter here until his redshirt senior year, that is the PERCEIVED reality right now.

Whitmer is on our roster because he took a look at our team last year and decided he would have a great shot at winning the job this year, and he left Illinois because of their QB logjam. Zach Frazer left ND because he thought he would never play there.

P recruited two highly thought of QB's last year. That fact will make it harder to recruit a top flight QB this year. That is just reality.
 
metsfan2323 said:
If you think QB's don't take a look at the current depth chart to try and guage future playing time then you are lost. If all goes according to plan Boyle would not have been named the starter here until his redshirt senior year, that is the PERCEIVED reality right now.

Whitmer is on our roster because he took a look at our team last year and decided he would have a great shot at winning the job this year, and he left Illinois because of their QB logjam. Zach Frazer left ND because he thought he would never play there.

P recruited two highly thought of QB's last year. That fact will make it harder to recruit a top flight QB this year. That is just reality.
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It's a downright miracle we got Whitmer and Cochran to sign with us last year. After all, if everything went according to plan, both would've had to wait 3 years until Nebrich's eligibility ran out.

People need a dose of reality on this board. Cochran was a 3 star recruit that didn't have a long list of offers. College programs get highly touted QB prospects on a yearly basis. Not every one of them pans out. Ever hear of Rob Bolden?
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
It's a downright miracle we got Whitmer and Cochran to sign with us last year. After all, if everything went according to plan, both would've had to wait 3 years until Nebrich's eligibility ran out.

People need a dose of reality on this board. Cochran was a 3 star recruit that didn't have a long list of offers. College programs get highly touted QB prospects on a yearly basis. Not every one of them pans out. Ever hear of Rob Bolden?
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You, like alot of other half baked UCONN fans think that because a recruit chose UCONN he isn't that good. You only want the guys who chose other schools. Boyle is better than Cochran in your mind because he just picked BC and Cochran picked UCONN.

I saw enough arm strength and form from Cochran in the spring game to be confident he can be a quality QB in a few years, (he already throws a better ball than Nebrich) and Cochran is not the type of person you would want to compete against because you will never be able to outwork him or outsmart him.
 
metsfan2323 said:
You, like alot of other half baked UCONN fans think that because a recruit chose UCONN he isn't that good. You only want the guys who chose other schools. Boyle is better than Cochran in your mind because he just picked BC and Cochran picked UCONN.

I saw enough arm strength and form from Cochran in the spring game to be confident he can be a quality QB in a few years, (he already throws a better ball than Nebrich) and Cochran is not the type of person you would want to compete against because you will never be able to outwork him or outsmart him.
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LOL.....I have no idea, none, who will be the better college QB. And neither do you. And neither does Boyle or Cochran for that matter.

But I have to give you credit. While you suck at reading my mind, it's quite the impressive straw man you've built here.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
LOL.....I have no idea, none, who will be the better college QB. And neither do you. And neither does Boyle or Cochran for that matter.

But I have to give you credit. While you suck at reading my mind, it's quite the impressive straw man you've built here.
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Sorry, I guess I misread "Cochran didn't have a long list of offers", it sounded like a knock. My strawman was built on that backhanded compliment.
 
The truth is we have no idea about how he felt regarding playing time.

I have no idea why a handful of posters always feel so compelled to decide what is and isn't rational.

Florida never let Boyle commit. They've struck out on 8 QB's already. It's no different than Cochran visiting Notre Dame and Penn State.
 
HuskyHawk said:
He probably appreciates that it's Jesuit like Xavier
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It should be made clear that Xavier is NOT Jesuit. It is a Xaverian Brothers high school. There are a 5-6 in Mass, 2 in Brooklyn, NY, 1 in Louisville, KY, 3 in Maryland, and now also St. Bernard's (New London) in CT.
 
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