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Message: [QUOTE="maddoggy, post: 3425790, member: 2579"] William of Orange famously said "one need not hope in order to undertake nor succeed in order to persevere." YMMV, but I do not read Hoopsfan22's post as a uggestion that we stop being fans or stop hoping for improvement. It seems like the sort of thing Geno himself would say (and has said): that there probably won't be any seismic shift. Like Geno, Hoopsfan22 doesn't forsee a change. That doesn't mean we shouldn't hope for one. I hope for world peace (as did William of Orange) but I'm not terribly optimistic at the moment, even though I hope for it and will continue to try to work for it. [/QUOTE]