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USA seems to be winning on depth as much as anything - they are using their whole bench and the quality of the bench is just as good as the starters - by the middle of the second quarter all teams so far are beginning to flag against the US and it just steamrolls from there - play even for the first Q, struggle in the second, play close in the third and blown away by the fourth. Today they coasted for most of the fourth as the blow-out was on by the end of the third.

It is easy to see the individual skills, but the basketball IQ is still developing and the decision making is suspect - but they are very young yet.
 
I thought AEH was a good shooter ??
3 games of consistent bad shooting.
Not worry though she has 2 years to just Work on all aspects of the game
 
They are ALL rising juniors.....under 16. They have 2 years left in HS and a lot to learn about the game of basketball. I think the slow starts are indicative of their youth and inexperience . They will get better.

So let us not knock them but understand where they are in their age and development.

LET'S GO USA!
 
US in semi #2 at 7 PM today (I think I have that right 18:00 but an hour behind time zone) and Canada is in semi #1 - Canada appears to be the second strongest team having gone 3-0 in their group pretty comfortably.
 
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USA is getting blown out in the 1st half. Now trail Brazil 41 - 21, Poor Shot selection, lack of team play and poor defense. so far.
 
Feels like a UConn-Houston game, and Brazil has the UConn role. Now I know how its feels to be rooting for a Huskies foe.
 
Lack of team play will do that. Hopefully the team gets it together in the 2nd half. Down 18 after the first 20 minutes. Yuck...
 
USA Trails 45-27 at the half. While the game is not over, if USA shoots as they have in this tournament, don't see a comeback. If they do, it will have to be their defense that gets turnovers and easy baskets.
 
Looks like USA is gonna go down. Brazil is leading 72-61 with about 10 seconds to go.
 
They are very fortunate that the top four teams are invited to the Worlds. I would say an overhaul of the coaching staff and roster selection will be needed if they hope to win in the Worlds next summer. The defense played by that team was absolutely disgusting, yet only marginally worse than the offensive sets (or lack thereof). They played like a men's playground team.
 
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There were many complaints/questions at the end of the U16 Trial about the players selected for this team. Seems like the observations/complaints were valid with how this team has played during this tournament. IF Mexico happens to pull off a major upset of Canada, USA might not medal. Some had already observed that USA would have a tough game against Canada and might lose. Canada beat Brazil 64-50
 
Sometimes there are point guards who start off a game trying to get their teammates shots and involved in the game before they look for their own shot. That's not Alexa Morris; she set a completely different tone of looking for her shot first and foremost.

Poor coaching, poor body language, selfish play. Not what we're used to seeing from usa basketball.
 
They are very fortunate that the top four teams are invited to the Worlds. I would say an overhaul of the coaching staff and roster selection will be needed if they hope to win in the Worlds next summer. The defense played by that team was absolutely disgusting, yet only marginally worse than the offensive sets (or lack thereof). They played like a men's playground team.
Reminded me of an NBA all-star game. No team work just a lot of individual play on both sides of the ball. My first experience with U16 play. Compared to what I have seen from USA U17 teams this was really disappointing.
 
At some point the coaches need to say "play team ball or sit". Clearly the coaches had a crap game as well.
 
At some point the coaches need to say "play team ball or sit". Clearly the coaches had a crap game as well.
I don't think the coaches did a very good job throughout the tournament. Brazil was able to take advantage of the team's weaknesses. Hence the result.
 
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There are always 'controversies' over the team selections with USA basketball, but generally they do pretty well. The selection committee sees a lot more than any 'observers' do so I never take the 'what were they thinking' criticism too seriously. This is especially true as you get down to the last few selections to a team where specific 'emergency' considerations may come into play - how a player can fill multiple roles should fouls/injuries hit during a competition.

I did think this team had issues with team concepts, which is partly a result of short training time, but also a reflection on coaching with the team and perhaps the pre USA coaching that they have received.

But the result is also not a bad thing - that the USA youth team is being challenges is a reflection on the expansion of women's BB worldwide. They did not play all that well in any of their games, especially in the first quarters, but had romped in their first three games - that they lost one game might just be an aberration which happens in all sports - they won the second half, but had dug to deep a hole in the first.
 
While there were obvious problems with the offense, particularly with the pg position, the real reason for last night's loss was giving up 45 points in the first half. Can't blame that on Morris.
 
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The team I saw on the floor- especially the starters- did not seem to reflect the team concept type of player that the selection committee professed to set as a standard for the players they picked. This seemed more evident in the starters. It became more obvious during each progressive game. The ineffectiveness of the offense was initially hidden by Moore's early success but as her shots wouldn't drop the offense ( little ball movement) became stagnant until the reserves usually entered the game. What happened to passing the ball to a player who had the better shot?.

I have to lay this entirely on the coaches. The coach is very methodical, using the same rotational pattern in every game with no consideration as to the actual effectiveness of the individual players. It seems that the usual over all talent superiority that the USA usually has over the opposition allowed this coaching staff the luxury of just throwing players out there without in game match up adjustments or substitutions based on player effectiveness and still win all their games.

The coach let this game get out of hand before even attempting to make the proper adjustments. Heard the assistant coach talk about ball movement in the one time out they called but then the team went back in and a player jacked up the ball with out any passing on their very next possession. As was mentioned by Ericsandiago the coaches should have sat players to make their point. The ball ,movement and hustle improved considerable once the starting rotation was no longer intact. It seemed clear that the coach had what seemed to be favorites who were in the game irregardless of their effectiveness. Even when the team made a run she put the starters back in to close the game and Brazil pulled away again. Again this was not on the players. The coaching staff needs to be held accountable.
 
It was the style of play in the first 3 quarters that led to the defeat. Outside Shots weren't falling but there was not a concerted effort to get the ball into the post players or dribble drives for layups. Finally in the 4th quarter there was a concerted effort to get the ball down low and improve team defense. USA made a comeback bid reducing a Brazil 22 point lead to 6 points However it was too late. It wasn't so much that Brazil played great, it was the poor team play by Team USA. Very little production from the Bench which is where Team USA usually can win games by their overwhelming talent when starters aren't hitting their shots.

It goes back to the original selection process where some of the elite talent in the 2017/18 class were not picked for the team. If this years U16 Team is the core for next years U17 World Championship team, its unlikely USA will win the Gold Medal.

There were interesting tweets last night by @MikeFlynn826 @kennykallina @hoopsking1968 and others after the loss.


The team I saw on the floor- especially the starters- did not seem to reflect the team concept type of player that the selection committee professed to set as a standard for the players they picked. This seemed more evident in the starters. It became more obvious during each progressive game. The ineffectiveness of the offense was initially hidden by Moore's early success but as her shots wouldn't drop the offense ( little ball movement) became stagnant until the reserves usually entered the game. What happened to passing the ball to a player who had the better shot?.

I have to lay this entirely on the coaches. The coach is very methodical, using the same rotational pattern in every game with no consideration as to the actual effectiveness of the individual players. It seems that the usual over all talent superiority that the USA usually has over the opposition allowed this coaching staff the luxury of just throwing players out there without in game match up adjustments or substitutions based on player effectiveness and still win all their games.

The coach let this game get out of hand before even attempting to make the proper adjustments. Heard the assistant coach talk about ball movement in the one time out they called but then the team went back in and a player jacked up the ball with out any passing on their very next possession. As was mentioned by Ericsandiago the coaches should have sat players to make their point. The ball ,movement and hustle improved considerable once the starting rotation was no longer intact. It seemed clear that the coach had what seemed to be favorites who were in the game irregardless of their effectiveness. Even when the team made a run she put the starters back in to close the game and Brazil pulled away again. Again this was not on the players. The coaching staff needs to be held accountable.
 
There were interesting tweets last night by @MikeFlynn826 @kennykallina @hoopsking1968 and others after the loss.
Is it possible to get a summary of the thoughts on the game. Having watched all the USA games I think there maybe a bit of overreaction to this loss.
 
They are very fortunate that the top four teams are invited to the Worlds. I would say an overhaul of the coaching staff and roster selection will be needed if they hope to win in the Worlds next summer. The defense played by that team was absolutely disgusting, yet only marginally worse than the offensive sets (or lack thereof). They played like a men's playground team.
I agree, the one on one offensive play, bad shots and lack of team play was very
noticeable. I question the coaching staff allowing this. Perhaps it was the short time
the team had to prepare for this tournament. In any event, the team got a good wake
up call and could be a valuable lesson for the future tournaments.

To be honest, I had a hard time watching this team play. Hopefuly, they will learn
from this setback. I have to give Brazil credit, they played pretty good and shot the
ball well in building the lead. It appeared they wanted in more.
 
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The U18 and U19 teams don't have these problems because they are coached by the very best college coaches. Because of recruiting concerns, I understand why that pool is not available for the U16 and U17 teams, but USA basketball is avoiding an obvious upgrade. There are some fantastic DIII coaches who would love to do this, and they have virtually no chance of recruiting any of the players, who are all obvious DI talents. They had the coach from Washington U at the tryouts to do clinics; maybe she should have been the head coach. The DePauw coach has been fabulously successful, as have at least a half dozen others, who consistently produce competitive NC-worthy teams. I recognize there are some great high school coaches, but almost all of them have connections to AAU teams that would certainly create controversy in the selection process. The problem here was coaching; that can be fixed.
 
So USA smashes Mexico for Bronze - complain all you want, but this team played one losing half of basketball in the tournament and it cost them a chance for Gold. It happens, and I am not sure I am willing to blame either coaches or 16 year old players for that result.
 
Canada wins Gold with a one point win over Brazil
 
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