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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 3225494, member: 1220"] Conditioning was just the straw that broke the Camels back It was not her only problem. She had a consistency problem as well. She was a streak shooter and when she was not on she still kept shooting. If she had a better BB-IQ or at least more restraint she could still have been a good player conditioning or not. She certainly was a very good passer and with a bit of disipline and dedication, she could have been a similar player to Chelsea Gray. Her weight was just one effect of her lack of self-discipline that began early in her basketball career. In high school, she transferred from school to school. [B]Everyone indulged her because she was so talented and she was never forced to challenge herself to get better in areas of weakness.[/B] If you followed the Louisville fan site it was not much better there. Gray, in contrast, came up in a highly structured and disciplined program during her developmental stage. It set a solid foundation upon which she was later to build her creative play. This is similar to the coaching style that Jordan experienced at NC. Creativity can really flourish when it is launched off of a solid structural foundation in which work ethic is a major factor. [/QUOTE]