Willard to Villanova

[shizzle787]

I have a question about the school budgets.

My understanding is what the school can guarantee the player comes from that $4-$5 million amount or whatever portion of the $20.5 M very school will commit to their MBB programs.

My assumption is that there really is no cap on what the player can make outside that guaranteed number through other deals. Like the Waltons giving a player $2M just to show up at a few events or spending a few days being greeters in one their stores.

I use the example of door greeter to ask the question does the player have to do anything to earn the extra endorsement $$$ or can the Waltons just tell a recruit hey we will throw in another $1-2 M a year just for choosing Arkansas. This is an honest question, I have no idea what the answer is on if there is any hard cap on what a player can earn.

Some SEC and Big Ten schools will probably pay guys additional monies under the table or through true third-party NIL deals.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Some SEC and Big Ten schools will probably pay guys additional monies under the table or through true third-party NIL deals.

So no cap after what the school guarantees?

Why would they even have to do it under the table if there is no cap or restrictions?

 

[uconngb]

Now the league just needs to get rid of English, Matta, and Holloway.

You left one off

 

[shizzle787]

So no cap after what the school guarantees?

Why would they even have to do it under the table if there is no cap or restrictions?

To keep up with the Big East in MBB NIL spending. Non revenue sharing NIL is going to be tightly watched. Unless the NIL is a legitimate deal between a company with no ties to the university and an athlete, it is not going to fly. Deals between companies tied to boosters and athletes are a no-go going forward.

 

[NJHusky]

. Deals between companies tied to boosters and athletes are a no-go going forward.

You sure about that? So deals that were ok this year won’t be next year? So Repole can’t contribute to NIL going forward???

 

[shizzle787]

You sure about that? So deals that were ok this year won’t be next year? So Repole can’t contribute to NIL going forward???

He can but it is going in house and will count against the cap.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Willard will be fine for Nova and get them back to being a perennial tournament team.

How far they go in the tournament, though, I think will be a bit of a let down to Nova fans post Jay Wright era.

 

[HooperScooper]

He was quick to tell anyone who would listen how much better things were in the Big East, the league he had just left after 12 seasons at Seton Hall. The scheduling, the travel, the emphasis on college basketball above all else.

Willard had issues with the Big Ten's schedule and travel situations, which would only get worse when USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington officially joined the conference, but it didn't raise alarms early on the way maybe it should have. Many Maryland boosters and athletic department staffers were already used to dealing with similar complaints from Mark Turgeon, Willard's predecessor, who frequently complained about the school's decision to leave the basketball-fabled Atlantic Coast Conference for the Big Ten in 2014.

So the Big East isn't so bad after all?

'He played us like a drum': Inside Kevin Willard's turbulent Maryland departure

Highlighting a fight that is brewing on college campuses, Willard wanted a bigger piece of the pie than Maryland could offer

www.cbssports.com

 

[ctbro1999]

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[CTBasketball]

Now the league just needs to get rid of English, Matta, and Holloway.

Holloway can coach, just needs to get his NIL in order. Which allegedly is happening this offseason.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Holloway can coach, just needs to get his NIL in order. Which allegedly is happening this offseason.

Agree 100% on Holloway. Jury is out on English. Matta, on the other hand, looks like death warmed over, and probably needs to hang it up.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Willard will be fine for Nova and get them back to being a perennial tournament team.

How far they go in the tournament, though, I think will be a bit of a let down to Nova fans post Jay Wright era.

I disagree with the huge payday for Willard. Recruiting has traditionally been at least 50% of the driver in a program's success, but in a world where recruiting is not nearly as important as it was even 5 years ago, and most major programs have GMs, the coach's role is changing, and is less important than it was 5 or 10 years ago. In fact, I think college coaches have become much more disposable than they were before, similar to NBA Head Coaches, and I would not pay them the huge salaries they have historically earned.

A program needs a coach for player development, game planning, and game coaching. Coaches are not selling players on coming anymore, the NIL deal is doing the selling. The AD and GM are arranging that money, so they don't need to pay the coach for the roster anymore, which is a big part of what the coaches were getting paid for in the past. And with 50% of rosters leaving every year anyway, why pay a coach that isn't getting it done just to keep the roster together? Coaches have become a lot less valuable in the NIL and Transfer Portal era.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I disagree with the huge payday for Willard. Recruiting has traditionally been at least 50% of the driver in a program's success, but in a world where recruiting is not nearly as important as it was even 5 years ago, and most major programs have GMs, the coach's role is changing, and is less important than it was 5 or 10 years ago. In fact, I think college coaches have become much more disposable than they were before, similar to NBA Head Coaches, and I would not pay them the huge salaries they have historically earned.

A program needs a coach for player development, game planning, and game coaching. Coaches are not selling players on coming anymore, the NIL deal is doing the selling. The AD and GM are arranging that money, so they don't need to pay the coach for the roster anymore, which is a big part of what the coaches were getting paid for in the past. And with 50% of rosters leaving every year anyway, why pay a coach that isn't getting it done just to keep the roster together? Coaches have become a lot less valuable in the NIL and Transfer Portal era.

So, the fact he just took an NIL fueled Maryland roster to the S16 is...a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So, the fact he just took an NIL fueled Maryland roster to the S16 is...a good thing or a bad thing?

I am not making a value judgment about paying players. It just is what it is. But the fact that the NIL played such a big role in getting Maryland to the S16 means that definitionally Willard is less valuable in the equation.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I am not making a value judgment about paying players. It just is what it is. But the fact that the NIL played such a big role in getting Maryland to the S16 means that definitionally Willard is less valuable in the equation.

Willard also had SH in the tourney pre NIL Not to mention his best team and chance at a deep run was the covid year.

Clearly NIL isn't all there is to it... Just look no further than Villanova.

 

[MJ1]

Willard also had SH in the tourney pre NIL Not to mention his best team and chance at a deep run was the covid year.

Clearly NIL isn't all there is to it... Just look no further than Villanova. Word was his family also wanted to move back to New Jersey, they didn’t like living in Maryland, if true, Nova much closer to Jersey.

 

[bendm]

I think Sean Miller and Kyle Neptune for Pitino Jr and Kevin Willard is a fair trade. Big East didn't downgrade

It’s an overall upgrade for sure. Miller is the best of the 4 but Neptune was that big of a liability.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Willard also had SH in the tourney pre NIL Not to mention his best team and chance at a deep run was the covid year.

Clearly NIL isn't all there is to it... Just look no further than Villanova.

The two choices aren't $0 and $10 million a year, correct?

 

[Scrutineer]

Holloway is a good coach. He just didn't have the institutional support/NIL money. Kadari never would have left had Seton Hall matched SJU's offer.

Their new practice facility just opened and they're gonna go from $1.5M to like $6M.

Seton Hall basketball practice facility, revenue-sharing plan unveiled

Seton Hall AD Bryan Felt showed off the state-of-the-art practice facility while explaining how ‘the university is stepping up' with NIL support

www.courierpostonline.com

Those who took issue with what I said in another thread about how the SEC and B1G will find a work-a-round to the $20M revenue cap should read the story on Seton Hall.
Their AD specifically addressed that issue and be assured the Big East will not end up with any advantage.

 

[Ewekon]

He made Seton Hall respectable and brought Maryland back to relevance. He will do very well at Nova. Not Jay Wright-well but occasional Elite 8 or Final 4.

A good Villanova is good for us/BEast

 

[ConnHuskBask]

The two choices aren't $0 and $10 million a year, correct?

Villanova made Willard the highest paid coach in men's college basketball? Good for him.

 

[Greedo]

He was quick to tell anyone who would listen how much better things were in the Big East, the league he had just left after 12 seasons at Seton Hall. The scheduling, the travel, the emphasis on college basketball above all else.

Willard had issues with the Big Ten's schedule and travel situations, which would only get worse when USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington officially joined the conference, but it didn't raise alarms early on the way maybe it should have. Many Maryland boosters and athletic department staffers were already used to dealing with similar complaints from Mark Turgeon, Willard's predecessor, who frequently complained about the school's decision to leave the basketball-fabled Atlantic Coast Conference for the Big Ten in 2014.

So the Big East isn't so bad after all?

'He played us like a drum': Inside Kevin Willard's turbulent Maryland departure

Highlighting a fight that is brewing on college campuses, Willard wanted a bigger piece of the pie than Maryland could offer

www.cbssports.com

I’m all for coaches getting fed up with the travel in these super leagues and bolting. This would be amazing if it started a domino effect. Other coaches are complaining about it as well. Mick Cronin comes to mind.

 

[RJScootin]

Now the league just needs to get rid of English, Matta, and Holloway.

Holloway has looked pretty good vs UConn last two years.