Will Whaley consider returning?

[7774]

I guess I'm wondering if he'd want to come back or start making money. If he comes back, the reality is that Sanogo needs to be the starting 5 and Akok the 4. So his presence can't threaten that (and shouldn't, he's not as talented as either of those guys). Johnson isn't really a project, he's an immediate impact player who, like Akok, could possibly start if he didn't have somebody (Akok) in front of him. Springs intrigues me because Hurley loved his rebounding, and he has the size to be a 5 or 4 for us. He's been practicing for 2 years. We wonder why he doesn't get in, but really, the likely reason is Sanogo, Whaley, Carlton. He redshirted last year, and due to Covid technically still has 4 years of eligibility. But will he want to be in college for 6 years?

And yes, if Bouk leaves we have two open scholarships. So room for a grad transfer and a freshman. Also a straight transfer who sits.

Just for sanity's sake, here are a couple current year Big East rankings for the guy you think should definitely not start over Akok or Sanogo if he was on the team next year.

 

[HooperScooper]

And yes, if Bouk leaves we have two open scholarships. So room for a grad transfer and a freshman. Also a straight transfer who sits.

Don't think there will be any more of those since it is expected that the NCAA will allow everyone one free transfer. Unless of course the transfer decides he wants to sit out a year.

 

[businesslawyer]

If he comes back, the reality is that Sanogo needs to be the starting 5 and Akok the 4.

If he comes back, the reality is that the two bigs who, paired together, give us the best chance of winning are going to start. Not the two bigs with the most NBA potential. Maybe that would be Sanogo and Akok, but it's just as likely that Whalley paired with one of them is the better lineup.

 

[superjohn]

This isn't that difficult, Hurley is planning on our starting frontcourt next year being Sanogo at center and Akok at power forward. Would it be awesome having Whaley back them up next season, yes but he's played four years of college ball and there's good money to be made after this season for him.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Just for sanity's sake, here are a couple current year Big East rankings for the guy you think should definitely not start over Akok or Sanogo if he was on the team next year.


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Carlton has a 94.1 DRtg.

 

[HuskyHawk]

If he comes back, the reality is that the two bigs who, paired together, give us the best chance of winning are going to start. Not the two bigs with the most NBA potential. Maybe that would be Sanogo and Akok, but it's just as likely that Whalley paired with one of them is the better lineup.

Well we have Whaley paired with Sanogo now, and it is pretty obvious that it isn't ideal, even if it is the best option at the moment. Akok is a more natural fit to play with either Sanogo or Whaley. He can shoot outside, cover guys on the perimeter, and also provide rim protection and speed that neither Whaley or Sanogo have. I don't see Sanogo coming off the bench next year, he doesn't now. He already replaced Whaley at center. Certainly Dan will play the guys he thinks should play. I think there are plenty of minutes for Whaley at backup center with Carlton gone. I don't think he's going to be a better option than Akok (who started all last year at the 4 until his injury) and I expect Johnson will play as well.

I really like what Whaley brings on D, and his energy. That said, he may have gone from most underrated guy on the team to most overrated guy on the team.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Just for sanity's sake, here are a couple current year Big East rankings for the guy you think should definitely not start over Akok or Sanogo if he was on the team next year.


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% guys in the top 20 defensive rating for the worst team in the BE and none for the best team in the BE. One for the good guys - hmmm

 

[Edward Sargent]

% guys in the top 20 defensive rating for the worst team in the BE and none for the best team in the BE. One for the good guys - hmmm

Meant 5 guys not %

 

[superjohn]

Well we have Whaley paired with Sanogo now, and it is pretty obvious that it isn't ideal, even if it is the best option at the moment. Akok is a more natural fit to play with either Sanogo or Whaley. He can shoot outside, cover guys on the perimeter, and also provide rim protection and speed that neither Whaley or Sanogo have. I don't see Sanogo coming off the bench next year, he doesn't now. He already replaced Whaley at center. Certainly Dan will play the guys he thinks should play. I think there are plenty of minutes for Whaley at backup center with Carlton gone. I don't think he's going to be a better option than Akok (who started all last year at the 4 until his injury) and I expect Johnson will play as well.

I really like what Whaley brings on D, and his energy. That said, he may have gone from most underrated guy on the team to most overrated guy on the team.

He was playing great at the end of last year and early this year but in our losses he's been pretty bad. When he's on and playing with tons of energy he has a huge effect on the game and becomes a sort of emotional leader but he hasn't been good on the offensive end in a while. Part of that may have to do with him playing pf when Sanogo is in but he seems to be playing more as center lately again and he's still missing layups. If he can bring that defensive player of the year game and make his layups again we're going to be really tough to beat.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

🐳 Spouting Whale Emoji (emojipedia.org)

Interesting, and all new background.

My post was more on the surface, highlighting that in addition to the limited, stock Boneyard emojis, we can now insert emojis the same as on the phone. I don't know of it draws from each device's emoji set or what, but it presents me with the ones that look like mine.