No one knows the answer to this at this point. It's useless to speculate.
There’s no chance students are on campus in fall 2020 NO CHANCE!?! LESS THAN ZERO?!?! I can tell how smart you are based on how long you predict social distance measures will last. You seem very smart.its the same answer as football. if students aren't allowed on campuses nationwide (looking like no chance for fall 2020) there won't be college sports.
Do you see some pathway to having traditional college campuses that the rest of the world doesn't see?There’s no chance students are on campus in fall 2020 NO CHANCE!?! LESS THAN ZERO?!?! I can tell how smart you are based on how long you predict social distance measures will last. You seem very smart.
Pun intended?right off the bat.
Never been a better time for the Serenity Prayer, which I find myself saying a few times a day lately.I just take things day to day and don’t predict anything. My best advice to everybody shut up and see what happens.
This is a good point but with the regular flu we have an annual vaccine and tens of thousands of people die from the condition each year. So, even with a vaccine it stands to reason that plenty of people will still pass away from COVID. So do we just stay hunkered down for years? It's an honest question. Basically you can never be around people until the deaths are down to zero? Cuz that isn't happening and if that is the case then what is an acceptable number?Without a vaccine, robust antibody testing, and reliable contact tracing, students will not be back on campus. Those things are not going to be ready by the fall semester.
This place gives great guidance as to why it was written to build upon a foundation of wisdom, and ample indication that many minimize, forget, or ignore this.Never been a better time for the Serenity Prayer, which I find myself saying a few times a day lately.
Nationwide? Yeah there's no chance. Mostly because there's schools already planning online only semesters for Fall 2020:There’s no chance students are on campus in fall 2020 NO CHANCE!?! LESS THAN ZERO?!?! I can tell how smart you are based on how long you predict social distance measures will last. You seem very smart.
Yours is a reasonable if premature curiosity.This is a good point but with the regular flu we have an annual vaccine and tens of thousands of people die from the condition each year. So, even with a vaccine it stands to reason that plenty of people will still pass away from COVID. So do we just stay hunkered down for years? It's an honest question. Basically you can never be around people until the deaths are down to zero? Cuz that isn't happening and if that is the case then what is an acceptable number?
You have answered your own question: an "acceptable" number is the death rate associated with the flu, for which we have a vaccine. We do not have a vaccine for this yet, nor do we have nearly enough reliable data to have anything close to a valid death rate.This is a good point but with the regular flu we have an annual vaccine and tens of thousands of people die from the condition each year. So, even with a vaccine it stands to reason that plenty of people will still pass away from COVID. So do we just stay hunkered down for years? It's an honest question. Basically you can never be around people until the deaths are down to zero? Cuz that isn't happening and if that is the case then what is an acceptable number?
If people knew how incredibly low the mortality rate is for everyone who isn't old or has heart disease, respiratory disease, or diabetes then they would probably be out in droves when things open back up. A plan should always be focused around protecting that segment of society.I'm more curious about how many fans will actually show up once they're allowed back in arenas. Even if everything is back to "normal" by the fall I'm not sure I'll be going to any sporting events for the 2020-21 season.
Surely the diehards and people who think COVID-19 is a hoax will be lining up on the first day, but I don't think arenas/stadiums will be full right off the bat.
Fauci has said that that is exactly the plan once we work through this initial burst. I'm paraphrasing but essentially he said the current shutdown is needed to prevent overwhelming our healthcare system. Once the active cases drop and hospital beds free up contract tracing and isolation is the game plan. That's just my recollection from when I was actually paying attention to the daily briefings. I'm not sure if that position has evolved.The alternative would be widely-available testing both for the virus and for antibodies, accompanied by a plan for contract tracing and isolation. I don't believe our current government intends to devote the resources or time necessary for this alternative.
Again I believe that that Fauci said that a possible vaccine exists and is in testing. IIRC, March 2021 was the date that it would available. Again, though, this is old news and, much like recruiting, the COVID-19 crisis is fluid.It's strange we keep hearing 12-18 months for a vaccine. They don't know if it's 12-18 months, 3 years, 5 years and beyond.