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To say Sedona is better than Paige "to create and finish in the midrange" is a joke. Why don't you write a letter to ESPN and NBAdraftroom arguing why Sedona not in their list? No need to defense her in here.

Sedona is very good player but not performing at a NPOY or NDPOY level now. Saying is very cheap and I can say this also. Your opinions are only represented by You. No need to deny other's opinions?

What Prince has done to change the program? Is she involving in the coaching stuffs? Prince helps and promoting the TCU program by scoring more points. But changing the TCU program? Please tell us how?

And Sedona is 24.5 years old, born My 20, 2000. In USA if you are 24.5 years old we call it 25 years old.
I was referring to Prince having a better midrange than the other 6-7 players listed above, not Paige. I’m fully in the camp that Bueckers is a better player and prospect and is the clear cut number 1 pick.

Prince is averaging 20/11 and 4 blocks on 64% shooting for an undefeated top 10 team with her best showings coming against ranked foes, scoring 30+ and putting up 20/20 in upset wins. In your opinion what else is needed to qualify as playing at a “NPOY level?” Have you watched her play this year?

Paige and a few others are also performing at a NPOY level. Voelpel mentioned Prince as a POY candidate yesterday, so I’m not alone in this thought process.

In regards to changing the program, a few weeks into the season TCU has gone from unranked to its highest ranking in program history. Prince is the team’s best player on either end. If TCU can sustain themselves as a strong program, she deserves credit for being a catalyst to putting TCU women’s basketball on the map when previously they’ve been an afterthought.

And I’ve lived in the USA my whole life. I have never heard of people rounding their age at the half year mark, but you do you.
 
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It you, said Prince is 24 not 25 years old, not me. You forget? I didn't start this age argument. Also I’ve lived in the USA my whole life. I have never heard of people insisting a basketball player is 24 while she is born May 20 2000, in real.

Again, you are only saying Prince helps TCU from unranked to Top 10, that is promoting the school not changing the school program. Only coaches or athletic departments can change the school program.

Do you know the difference?

Also, please give Van Lith some credits to TCU and Prince didn't score 30+ in every game. 17 vs. South Florida, 20 vs. ND and 19 vs. Idaho State.
In ESPN's latest article on the upcoming 2025 WNBA draft, she appears in 6th place, just behind Lauren Betts. It has to be said that in this article, the author predicts three tall players at positions 5 to 7. Dominique Malonga just turned 19 less than three weeks ago, she's on the rise and appears at No. 7, Sedona Prince will be 25 (attachment) when the next WNBA season starts, so it remains to be seen whether the team that has priority will prefer to go with a more mature player or a more promising talent, and especially a player who is nearly six years her junior. Personally, I'd choose her over Prince.

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Agree 100%. But she's not changing the program like Prince/Hailey Van Lith are doing at TCU right now.
It you, said Prince is 24 not 25 years old, not me. You forget? I didn't start this age argument. Also I’ve lived in the USA my whole life. I have never heard of people insisting a basketball player is 24 while she is born May 20 2000, in real.

Again, you are only saying Prince helps TCU from unranked to Top 10, that is promoting the school not changing the school program. Only coaches or athletic departments can change the school program.

Do you know the difference?

Also, please give Van Lith some credits to TCU and Prince didn't score 30+ in every game. 17 vs. South Florida, 20 vs. ND and 19 vs. Idaho State.
See above for where I did give Hailey Van Lith credit.

And agree to disagree about players changing a program. I’d argue Caitlin Clark changed Iowa (and women’s basketball as a whole).

Also, you didn’t answer the other question you overlooked. In your opinion what else is needed to qualify as playing at a “NPOY level” from Prince? Have you watched her play this year?
 

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Her ability to create and finish in the midrange is better than any of the players listed above, she has a quicker release, and she moves smoothly like a guard or a wing rather than a 6-7 post. She also has better handles than anyone listed above besides maybe Amihere, but I'd probably bet on Sedona being the stronger ball handler. I don't think anyone is saying she's necessarily better than the players above, but she's more of a unicorn than anyone there besides Griner based on her unique size and skillset. You'll get to see her first hand this weekend when she goes up against South Carolina.
I'll definitely be watching. I can't imagine a player being THIS skilled and this tall yet having to be in college for seven seasons. Something isn't adding up. Even her former Oregon teammate (same age as Sedona) left school early and has been in the WNBA for a few seasons (just won a WNBA title and played in the Olympics during the summer).

No, you can't say that though about any of the other highly projected picks like Iriafen, Miles, Morrow, Pao Pao, or Janiah Barker. None are performing at a NPOY or NDPOY level this season. Prince is. And she's 24, not 25.
How many of those players are turning 25 and spent seven years in college? Heck, Te-Hina is only 22--which is a little young for a fifth-year. Olivia Miles is only 21.
 

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I'll definitely be watching. I can't imagine a player being THIS skilled and this tall yet having to be in college for seven seasons. Something isn't adding up. Even her former Oregon teammate (same age as Sedona) left school early and has been in the WNBA for a few seasons (just won a WNBA title and played in the Olympics during the summer).


How many of those players are turning 25 and spent seven years in college? Heck, Te-Hina is only 22--which is a little young for a fifth-year. Olivia Miles is only 21.
In regards to “something’s up” with Prince, she’s been injured virtually her whole career and was a much more passive player at Oregon. She’s also had a lot of off court issues while in college and was rumored to be a negative locker room presence in Oregon. Had she declared for the 2023 draft as she originally stated, I doubt she would’ve been picked in the first two rounds. She looks like a completely different player this year compared to how she played in Eugene. Watching her go up against SC’s slew of bigs will be her biggest challenge of the season so far.
 

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I'll definitely be watching. I can't imagine a player being THIS skilled and this tall yet having to be in college for seven seasons. Something isn't adding up. Even her former Oregon teammate (same age as Sedona) left school early and has been in the WNBA for a few seasons (just won a WNBA title and played in the Olympics during the summer).


How many of those players are turning 25 and spent seven years in college? Heck, Te-Hina is only 22--which is a little young for a fifth-year. Olivia Miles is only 21.
For the record, this is Prince’s 6th year. In her first 5 years she played in only 71 games, roughly 2 seasons worth of games. The severe broken leg and subsequent infection that Prince suffered in HS during the Fiba Americas tournament almost ended her career, and prevented her from playing during her first 2 years in college.

It has taken Prince a long time to get over her injuries and develop her body and game to the point where she is today. Along the way there have been some bumps in the road. So far this year, she’s playing at a level we haven’t seen before from her or pretty much anyone else.
 
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All I will say, is that this is exactly what I was talking about. Big numbers against mostly inexperienced and mostly smaller players doesn't mean much if she doesn't show it against projected WNBA talent. Like I said before, she'll get drafted simply off potential but I don’t think she's worth a lottery pick at this time.
 

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I’ll come eat my crow: Prince looked awful today and didn’t look like a lottery pick in the least bit. I thought she’d play much better than she did. Credit SC’s post defenders who did a terrific job of preventing her from getting good touches in the paint and the high post, as well as the guards whose on ball pressure prevented entry passes. TCU’s offense looks very rhythm oriented and South Carolina completely took them out of it today.
 
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I’ll come eat my crow: Prince looked awful today and didn’t look like a lottery pick in the least bit. I thought she’d play much better than she did. Credit SC’s post defenders who did a terrific job of preventing her from getting good touches in the paint and the high post, as well as the guards whose on ball pressure prevented entry passes. TCU’s offense looks very rhythm oriented and South Carolina completely took them out of it today.
Honestly, after watching her today, I wouldn’t even draft her. It has nothing to do with her skills. Her effort was dismal, just no interest in doing anything other than setting some picks and jogging from one end of the court to the other. Getting boxed out for every rebound, no defense…I’ve rarely seen someone so disinterested in playing a game. I can’t imagine how negatively she would affect her teammates…
 

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Save some crow for me. It’s not the meager 6 points she scored. SC is a relentless defensive team that can clamp down on an opponent. But Prince had only 2 rebounds in 33 minutes. Five of her teammates had 2 or more rebounds and three of them were reserves. When you’re 6’7” and 2 rebounds is all you have to show for 33 minutes against a top opponent, there is something lacking in your effort. In UCLA’s win over SC, Betts had 14 rebounds, often ripping them down against a swarm of SC players.

But you can’t teach 6’7”. So someone in the W will draft Prince and she may hang around for years as a backup center, i.e. Mercedes Russell, frustrating all the fans and pundits who see her enormous potential. Note that Russell was likely left unprotected by the Seattle Storm and the Valkyrie passed on drafting anyone off the Storm’s roster in the expansion draft this past week.
 
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Honestly, after watching her today, I wouldn’t even draft her. It has nothing to do with her skills. Her effort was dismal, just no interest in doing anything other than setting some picks and jogging from one end of the court to the other. Getting boxed out for every rebound, no defense…I’ve rarely seen someone so disinterested in playing a game. I can’t imagine how negatively she would affect her teammates…
I think Watkins got in her head.

Prince blocked Watkins’ shot the the ball headed up court. Watkins stole the ball near half court and raced back with Prince following - then dunked it. It’s not like it was in Prince’s face but she seemed to play with a lack of energy after that.
 
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Note that Russell was likely left unprotected by the Seattle Storm and the Valkyrie passed on drafting anyone off the Storm’s roster in the expansion draft this past week.
It is almost certain she was left unprotected but the main reason she wasn't selected was due to her free agency status, she was an unrestricted free agent, like three of her Seattle team mates.

This is important as Valkyries could only select one unrestricted free agent for the entire draft, that one player was Mo Billings, from then on all other unrestricted free agents couldn't be selected by the Valkyries including Russell.
 
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I think Watkins got in her head.

Prince blocked Watkins’ shot the the ball headed up court. Watkins stole the ball near half court and raced back with Prince following - then dunked it. It’s not like it was in Prince’s face but she seemed to play with a lack of energy after that.

I watched the first quarter. Her lack of energy and interest showed from the beginning to me.
 
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Save some crow for me. It’s not the meager 6 points she scored. SC is a relentless defensive team that can clamp down on an opponent. But Prince had only 2 rebounds in 33 minutes. Five of her teammates had 2 or more rebounds and three of them were reserves. When you’re 6’7” and 2 rebounds is all you have to show for 33 minutes against a top opponent, there is something lacking in your effort. In UCLA’s win over SC, Betts had 14 rebounds, often ripping them down against a swarm of SC players.

But you can’t teach 6’7”. So someone in the W will draft Prince and she may hang around for years as a backup center, i.e. Mercedes Russell, frustrating all the fans and pundits who see her enormous potential. Note that Russell was likely left unprotected by the Seattle Storm and the Valkyrie passed on drafting anyone off the Storm’s roster in the expansion draft this past week.
My sentiments as well. I'm still not convinced that she isn't a first round pick as she possesses a rare talent at her size, but I'm backing down on some of my claims. Part of the issue wasn't Prince's fault, as our guards were relentless on preventing passes to Prince and limiting her touches. But the old Prince did rear her head and the "effort" issues were clearly noticeable when they dug themselves into a hole.

lol I blame you all! :oops: In the matter of a month I've gone from vocally doubting Prince as as first round pick, to buying into the arguments that she could be taken at #2 in the draft after her performances against Notre Dame and NC State. Now I think she'll be a low first round or early second round pick.
 
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My sentiments as well. I'm still not convinced that she isn't a first round pick as she possesses a rare talent at her size, but I'm backing down on some of my claims. Part of the issue wasn't Prince's fault, as our guards were relentless on preventing passes to Prince and limiting her touches. But the old Prince did rear her head and the "effort" issues were clearly noticeable when they dug themselves into a hole.

lol I blame you all! :oops: In the matter of a month I've gone from vocally doubting Prince as as first round pick, to buying into the arguments that she could be taken at #2 in the draft after her performances against Notre Dame and NC State. Now I think she'll be a low first round or early second round pick.

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But you can’t teach 6’7”. So someone in the W will draft Prince and she may hang around for years as a backup center, i.e. Mercedes Russell, frustrating all the fans and pundits who see her enormous potential.
You also can’t teach “effort.”

Given the amount of time Prince has spent in NCAAW (re: all of the posts debating about her age), it’s clear this is who she is as a player. Maybe a team wants to take a chance on her thinking she just needs the right coach, but if I’m a GM/coach, I want someone less skilled but who puts in the work day in/day out.

I’m not one to be so negative about a player, but for some reason her play yesterday really irked me. Moving on…
 

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You also can’t teach “effort.”

Given the amount of time Prince has spent in NCAAW (re: all of the posts debating about her age), it’s clear this is who she is as a player. Maybe a team wants to take a chance on her thinking she just needs the right coach, but if I’m a GM/coach, I want someone less skilled but who puts in the work day in/day out.

I’m not one to be so negative about a player, but for some reason her play yesterday really irked me. Moving on…
Prince’s play yesterday irked a lot of people. But she will get drafted by somebody. That’s why I compared her to 6’6” Mercedes Russell, a notorious underachiever at TN. Russell was drafted near the end of the 2nd round, 22nd overall in 2018 by the NY Liberty who soon waved her. She was picked up by the Seattle Storm, who needed a backup for Stewie.

In her 7 years in Seattle she’s mostly been a serviceable backup post, picking up a couple championship rings along the way. That may be Prince’s future in the W, although she has a much more extensive skill set than Russell, should she decide to use it.
 

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