Will Maya Moore Now Resume Her Basketball Career

[willtalk]

I can understand the safeguards that a jury of one's peers provides, but I often wonder if a professional jury and a non-adversarial system might assure more justice.

 

[JoePgh]

I can understand the safeguards that a jury of one's peers provides, but I often wonder if a professional jury and a non-adversarial system might assure more justice.

The defendant always has the option of a bench trial, where the judge decides guilt or innocence. Defendants rarely choose that option, because statistically, judges are more likely than juries to render a guilty verdict.

 

[npignatjr]

And?

A large percentage, perhaps a majority, of wrongful convictions are procured through jury trials. Juries are no safeguard against the myriad causes of bad convictions: police/prosecutorial misconduct, junk science, eyewitness misidentification, false confession, perjured testimony, ineffective counsel, etc.

No one has to be an "activist" to acknowledge or remedy a grave mistake.

And what percentage of all convictions are those, 0.01%? 0.1%? The reason for a jury is for all 12_to be convinced, not just 1 years later.

 

[Plebe]

And what percentage of all convictions are those, 0.01%? 0.1%? The reason for a jury is for all 12_to be convinced, not just 1 years later.

You have to be kidding with those ridiculously low percentages. Uninformed to say the least.

Convictions subsequently proven to be wrongful are but the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

But let's run with the absurdly low figure of 0.1%. That would still mean many thousands of people **currently** in prison for crimes they didn't commit. Not to mention all the people not currently incarcerated but with wrongful convictions on their record, many of which leave them tagged as convicted felons or worse.

Even by conservative scientific estimates, the number of currently incarcerated by wrongful conviction is well into the six figures.

 

[LCConnFan]

Shall we have a judge / jury decide this topic? Let's get on with our Maya 'theory' conspiracy!

 

[npignatjr]

You have to be kidding with those ridiculously low percentages. Uninformed to say the least.

Convictions subsequently proven to be wrongful are but the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

But let's run with the absurdly low figure of 0.1%. That would still mean many thousands of people **currently** in prison for crimes they didn't commit. Not to mention all the people not currently incarcerated but with wrongful convictions on their record, many of which leave them tagged as convicted felons or worse.

Even by conservative scientific estimates, the number of currently incarcerated by wrongful conviction is well into the six figures.

So you are saying over a hundred thousand people currently in prison are there because a jury listened to the evidence and was wrong? I took a guess as did you who is the most uniformed?

The number of wrongfully convicted prisoners being exonerated is skyrocketing

They've lost a combined 18,350 years behind bars.

www.businessinsider.com

Wrongful Convictions: What Really Matters? - The Crime Report

Academics who argue about the rate of wrongful convictions in U.S. justice miss the point that it's more important to make sure they don't occur.

thecrimereport.org

 

[Buzzyboy]

I hear you Chuskies! Maya is the reason I became interested in the WNBA. She had just graduated from UConn and entered the W. I was such a BIG fan of hers, I wanted to continue to follow her. If you remember, the Lynx won the championship her rookie year. It didn't take long for the hook to get lodged in deep! Now I'm a huge fan of the W. I transition very smoothly now from WCBB to the W with little effort.

The Liberty is one of the 4 teams I follow, so I appreciate your love and affection for them. I would love to see Maya in any WNBA uniform this season. Moore will turn 31 on June 11. She's got 5-6 more GOOD years left. There are many UConn fans that will give you chapter and verse why Diana Taurasi is believed to be the GOAT of the program. Then there are others that would suggest the same thing about Maya. That is a debate that will never be settled. Their likeness is prominently displayed on the program's Mount Rushmore.

It can be argued that 5-6 others deserve to fill in the other two places, but that's a debate for another time. Maya was just as cold, calculating, productive and clutch as Diana. To use a popular term that's being used by players now: "Maya was a bucket." The difference between them was Diana was much more vocal and in your face. Maya was quiet and reserve. Diana was rah rah, Maya was not.

Maya would cut your heart out as quick as D would. The difference being D would try and put it (shove it) back through the rear orifice. If you look in the UConn record book, you'll find that Maya's name is at the top or close to it for most of the career records for the program.

The thing about that is even though Taurasi is looking up at Maya on many of those lists, you're not going to change public perception. I remind you that Maya has the distinction of being THE ONLY member of the 3,000 career point club in UConn wbb history. She was the first to break that barrier, and no one has yet to join her. It may be awhile before she has company.

Despite that, Taurasi is considered by many (not all) to be the GOAT of the program. Long live the GOAT, and long live Maya.

I totally agree that Diana was MORE DEMONSTRATIVE on the court but that has nothing to do with her play on the court or her ability to make her teammates better .... the Silent Assassin .... she let her game do the talking ..... Joe Namath gets status for his boasting and predicting a Super Bowl title for the Jets but if you look at the game, it was the Jet's rushing attack and defense that won that game .... he's a Hall Of Famer despite having as many interceptions as he did touchdown passes and his completion rate was very pedestrian .... I guess the bigger your mouth, the bigger your image .... I'm not suggesting Diana wasn't terrific but did her on court performances exceed Maya .... I would say most neutral people would say she came up a little bit short ...

 

[Buzzyboy]

So you are saying over a hundred thousand people currently in prison are there because a jury listened to the evidence and was wrong? I took a guess as did you who is the most uniformed?

The number of wrongfully convicted prisoners being exonerated is skyrocketing

They've lost a combined 18,350 years behind bars.

www.businessinsider.com

Wrongful Convictions: What Really Matters? - The Crime Report

Academics who argue about the rate of wrongful convictions in U.S. justice miss the point that it's more important to make sure they don't occur.

thecrimereport.org

There are so many factors that contribute to wrongful convictions and one has to do with the lawyers .... there are lawyers who are so eloquent that they ALONE can be the difference between conviction and innocence while there are defense attorneys who often aren't good at their job or not wholeheartedly working for their client. Then there are the law enforcement people who sometimes aren't as proficient at collecting evidence or investigating properly or may often focus their investigations on one suspect too quickly and make assumptions, thus limiting the scope of their investigations. Conversely, some guilty people get off because of shoddy police work so it does work both ways. The justice system works to be fair but it is fair from being perfect.

 

[npignatjr]

There are so many factors that contribute to wrongful convictions and one has to do with the lawyers .... there are lawyers who are so eloquent that they ALONE can be the difference between conviction and innocence while there are defense attorneys who often aren't good at their job or not wholeheartedly working for their client. Then there are the law enforcement people who sometimes aren't as proficient at collecting evidence or investigating properly or may often focus their investigations on one suspect too quickly and make assumptions, thus limiting the scope of their investigations. Conversely, some guilty people get off because of shoddy police work so it does work both ways. The justice system works to be fair but it is fair from being perfect.

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