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Message: [QUOTE="BroadwayVa, post: 3130420, member: 6118"] Your second paragraph--100 percent [USER=6819]@JordyG[/USER] and accurate, as usual The first paragraph, I raised 9 17 year olds, 8 of which were female. For the most part reading tea leaves too is accurate. And the word of friends of a 17 year caries much weight. (One daughter was touted off of the USMilitary Academy by a "friend"). Most made decisions based on what they (themselves) thought best for themself Another pure [USER=6819]@JordyG[/USER]---" I don't care as long a she stays to graduation". Me too--college is about setting the foundation for your life's work. [/QUOTE]