Why the Big East is not doomed yet this year

[FightOnCT]

Is it true that the Boise State loss to a D2 team does not enter into the quantitative NET? In other words, it's only a qualitative data point for the selection committee to consider? Tough loss for Butler.

Yes, it won’t show up on any of the metrics-based sites but the committee will absolutely take the loss into consideration

 

[slepers]

ACC taking care of business. Will end up 10-1 today. Meanwhile, DePaul is losing to Pine Bluff.

Surely did, bcu coming back from 10 down to top New Haven!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Update of what is left:

P4 games remaining (16-22 overall)- games I think we win in bold:

Georgetown @ North Carolina (12/7)
Creighton @ Nebraska (12/7)
Villanova @ Michigan (12/9)
UConn vs. Florida (MSG) (12/9)
UConn vs. Texas (12/12)
Marquette @ Purdue (12/13)
Creighton vs. Kansas State (12/13)
Villanova vs. Pittsburgh (12/13)
Seton Hall vs. Rutgers (12/13)
Villanova @ Wisconsin (12/19)
St. John's vs. Kentucky (Atlanta) (12/20)
Butler vs. Northwestern (12/20)

Need to go 7-5 to hit 23-27 mark.

Even 1-1 today will be a huge deal.


To me there is one more questionable game left:

DePaul @ Wichita State (12/13)

I expect a loss, but a win would be a huge plus.



Cupcake games remaining (we need to go 9-0):

Xavier vs. Missouri State (12/12)
Providence vs. Brown (12/9)
DePaul vs. Morgan State (12/9)
St. John's vs. Iona (12/13)
Georgetown vs. Saint Peter's (12/13)
Butler vs. NJIT (12/22)
Georgetown vs. Coppin State (12/22)
Creighton vs. Utah Tech (12/22)
St. John's vs. Harvard (12/23)

KenPom has the following games projected to have final margins of <=5 points:

Creighton @ Nebraska
UConn vs. Florida
Villanova at Wisconsin
St. Johns vs. Kentucky
Butler vs. Northwestern

The Big East has outperformed KenPom in its games vs. P4 in the last few weeks in terms of projected losses turning into wins, so winning 3+ of those "tossup" games is possible.

 

[shizzle787]

KenPom has the following games projected to have final margins of <=5 points:

Creighton @ Nebraska
UConn vs. Florida
Villanova at Wisconsin
St. Johns vs. Kentucky
Butler vs. Northwestern

The Big East has outperformed KenPom in its games vs. P4 in the last few weeks in terms of projected losses turning into wins, so winning 3+ of those "tossup" games is possible.

The Big East has played itself into a position where 5 bids is still a realistic possibility. The next 16 days are huge.

 

[shizzle787]

The league has done a better job this year of not losing to mid and low-majors.

Only six losses to teams outside of the P4:
@ Gonzaga
Dayton
Dayton on neutral court
Boise State
Santa Clara
Buffalo


Butler should have never scheduled Boise State, and Xavier should never have scheduled Santa Clara. I would argue DePaul should not have scheduled Wichita State or Buffalo (but there was no way to know Buffalo would arguably be the best team in the MAC based on recent history).

 

[RuffRuff]

The league has done a better job this year of not losing to mid and low-majors.

Only six losses to teams outside of the P4:
@ Gonzaga
Dayton
Dayton on neutral court
Boise State
Santa Clara
Buffalo


Butler should have never scheduled Boise State, and Xavier should never have scheduled Santa Clara. I would argue DePaul should not have scheduled Wichita State or Buffalo (but there was no way to know Buffalo would arguably be the best team in the MAC based on recent history).

Why? You don’t think teams should play better competition? That sounds like a weak way to get bids. This to get an extra bid to flame out in round one?

The way to really do it is to recruit better players and coach them up. Not playing the schedule.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The league has done a better job this year of not losing to mid and low-majors.

Only six losses to teams outside of the P4:
@ Gonzaga
Dayton
Dayton on neutral court
Boise State
Santa Clara
Buffalo


Butler should have never scheduled Boise State, and Xavier should never have scheduled Santa Clara. I would argue DePaul should not have scheduled Wichita State or Buffalo (but there was no way to know Buffalo would arguably be the best team in the MAC based on recent history).

The mid major games don’t bother me. It is a way to boost the power rankings, and they don’t kill you if you lose. Buffalo was a bad loss.