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nelsonmuntz said:
No one is arguing with you on this point. She picked a bad way out, and the defense of her actions always comes down to "there is nothing she could have done". Maybe, but her approach still resulted in the lowest probability of success possible. And I reject that assertion. Inevitably, the losers are the ones that say there is nothing that could have been done. The winners figure out a way to get it done.
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What result are you referring to? The result that Uconn is still in the BE? The result that there was no imminent invitation from any other league available? None of her actions could have changed the current set of results. The ACC focused on Pitt and Cuse for whatever reasons they have/had. They stopped at 14. Reports say they have a plan for 16 but they are not going there yet. The Big12 has stated their goals. The Big10 has stated they are sitting tight. Nothing Herbst could have done would change any of that. Not a single thing because, like it or not, Uconn is not in control unless they make a 100% commitment to the BE and are willing to watch the FB program lose BCS conference affiliation. Right now, with the potential of the marquee and face of the BE going to the Big 12, that is reality. Sometimes winners know when to sit tight and work quietly so the next time, they come out ahead. I know, for you, that is beg harder.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Great post Nelson.

Many will read this and think we aren't good enough for the SEC without first stopping to think what this could do for recruiting. Recruiting would improve instantly and in two years we'll be ready to hit the ground running.
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There is not an SEC school that would vote for Uconn into the SEC. Ever.
 
Heston said:
There is not an SEC school that would vote for Uconn into the SEC. Ever.
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Well they voted for Missouri, what does Missouri have that UCONN doesn't have? Certainly not a great football program.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Well they voted for Missouri, what does Missouri have that UCONN doesn't have? Certainly not a great football program.
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Certainly a much better football program, over time. Add to that, the best markets near their footprint. Honestly, other than Atlanta and whatever appeal UF has across Florida, especially around Orlando and Jacksonville, the SEC has generally weak markets. Nashville is the best market they dominate outside of Atlanta (I'm not giving GT much influence there). Now they can add St. Louis and Kansas City, two pretty decent markets, athouth Mizzou is good for no more than a third of KC.
 
Some posters are finally getting it - the SEC is the best place for UConn given the circumstances.
 
Stop the insanity here. Herbst did exactly the right thing and we will be landing just fine, thank you.
 
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Chief00 said:
Some posters are finally getting it - the SEC is the best place for UConn given the circumstances.
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Knock, knock
Who's there?
Not the SEC.
Th SEC can pluck teams that they want from any conference. And they only want certain FB programs. They said no to WVU, the most successful BE football team, ever. They will say no to Uconn.

People need to start dealing in reality.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Certainly a much better football program, over time. Add to that, the best markets near their footprint. Honestly, other than Atlanta and whatever appeal UF has across Florida, especially around Orlando and Jacksonville, the SEC has generally weak markets. Nashville is the best market they dominate outside of Atlanta (I'm not giving GT much influence there). Now they can add St. Louis and Kansas City, two pretty decent markets, athouth Mizzou is good for no more than a third of KC.
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And adding UCONN and Rutgers wouldn't give the SEC a great new market? We couldn't compete on the field with Missouri if we had the SEC recruiting advantage?
 
In summation, he who shall not be named believes....

1) UConn isn't worthy of the ACC
2) UConn can save the Big East
3) UConn isn't worthy of Conference USA
4) UConn is worthy of the SEC.

This reminds me of...

 
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WingU-Conn said:
In summation, he who shall not be named believes....

1) UConn isn't worthy of the ACC
2) UConn can save the Big East
3) UConn isn't worthy of Conference USA
4) UConn is worthy of the SEC.

This reminds me of...

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You forgot that the CAA is going to be a powerful FBS conference.
 
In the words of Judge Chamberlain Haller: "You on druuuugs?"
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metsfan2323 said:
And adding UCONN and Rutgers wouldn't give the SEC a great new market? We couldn't compete on the field with Missouri if we had the SEC recruiting advantage?
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The SEC is not going to add a New England team, or New Jersey. Geography does matter in an all sports conference. Missouri borders Arkansas and Kentucky. It's in the footprint.
 
I'm starting to get where Chief is coming from!! Count me in. Uconn would dominate in the SEC within 7 years.
 
The real test for this would be to have someone post this on SEC school sites and observe the fans reactions. I nominate the guys suggesting this go on their sites and test the waters.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
The real test for this would be to have someone post this on SEC school sites and observe the fans reactions. I nominate the guys suggesting this go on their sites and test the waters.
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Southerns are proud of their BBQ and football.

And they hate Yankee football. Not with rivalry hate. With Civil War hate.

The SEC and B12 sniff around the Civil War border states like Missouri and West Virginia and Kansas like they are traitor states. Louisville gets the same treatment WVU and Missouri as a border state. Bleeding Kansas gets no respect. And they can't figure out how to get rid of Iowa State.
 
WingU-Conn said:
In summation, he who shall not be named believes....

1) UConn isn't worthy of the ACC
2) UConn can save the Big East
3) UConn isn't worthy of Conference USA
4) UConn is worthy of the SEC.

This reminds me of...

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What Happen?
 
If the SEC were 100% focused on quality, they would have added Oklahoma and FSU. They didn't.
 
This is out there, but maybe instead of UConn joining the SEC, FL, Alabama, Tenn, ND, USC, Texas, Michigan and UConn could start a conference. Start small and then see about adding Ohio State, maybe UMass.
 
Rumrunner said:
This is out there, but maybe instead of UConn joining the SEC, FL, Alabama, Tenn, ND, USC, Texas, Michigan and UConn could start a conference. Start small and then see about adding Ohio State, maybe UMass.
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Pfff. Notre Dame is irrelevant. Why waste a slot on them.
 
Since I live in SEC headquarters let me add a couple of comments to this thread. I did not read all of the posts so let me appoligize if this is repetative

1. Most SEC fans barely acknowledge that UConn plays football at a serious level. BB yes but not football.
2. The SEC recognizes that there are not a lot of large TV markets in its footprint. It knows however that member schools dominate the sport scene in the markets. It understands that overwhelming share of medium markets combined with nationallly followed schools is a winning combination. A school in a large market which is the fourth or fifth sport fan choice is of no interest.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
3) The SEC has plenty of great programs.
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Right, so it's time for them to go in a different direction.

This is akin to, "I have lots of supermodels waiting to go out with me, but naahh, that's gotten boring."

I'm sure the SEC has been thinking, "You know what we need? More Vanderbilts in our conference!"
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that someone honestly thinks we'll be in the SEC or CAA before the ACC or CUSA.
 
WingU-Conn said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that someone honestly thinks we'll be in the SEC or CAA before the ACC or CUSA.
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I am still wrapping my head why a poster would make the same lame mischaracterization over and over and over. You could hold a clinic in tedium.
 
vowelguy said:
Right, so it's time for them to go in a different direction.

This is akin to, "I have lots of supermodels waiting to go out with me, but naahh, that's gotten boring."

I'm sure the SEC has been thinking, "You know what we need? More Vanderbilts in our conference!"
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It's akin to having a bunch of hot skinny girls waiting to go out with you, but deciding you would like a few women with big cans around too.

If the SEC wanted FSU and Oklahoma, they would have FSU and Oklahoma. They have been crystal clear in what they are looking for. Only the densest are choosing to ignore it.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am still wrapping my head why a poster would make the same lame mischaracterization over and over and over. You could hold a clinic in tedium.
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I sincerely apologize for holding you accountable for what you write. I'll try to remember in the future that you don't really believe half of what you write either.
 
WingU-Conn said:
I sincerely apologize for holding you accountable for what you write. I'll try to remember in the future that you don't really believe half of what you write either.
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I sincerely apologize to everyone on the board for my stalker cluttering it with his nonsense.
 
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