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Why No UConn Lacrosse ? (Merged: or wrestling)

I doubt we'll be adding any sports while still in the Big East
 
Huskyforlife said:
The AD is already running a 50 mil deficit, is that really a good excuse?
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That number included charges toward the Ollie decision. We just lost three sports and another became largely self-funded. The AD was charged with reducing the deficit, he is not going to be adding sports at this time. I would love for UConn to sponsor lacrosse. Perfect fit of school and talent in close proximity.
 
Sick Puppy said:
Spoke with a couple of coaches at FF county schools. They both said "The best athletes in our school play lacrosse." That was over 5 years ago. Probably more so now.
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You forgot to add for any kid whose parent drives a Range Rover and Tesla. I live in Fairfield County and the top Lacrosse athletes also star in soccer and football in the fall. Those same kids can’t scratch the surface in D1 for soccer and football, yet get recruited by Virginia and Duke for lacrosse. That says it all.
 
CL82 said:
Except, of course, we're not, but other than that, spot on.

(You are not wrong, though, that we are highly unlikely to add more sports in the near term.)
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Except…we are
 
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Why not, Northern Iowa, South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Wyoming, Airforce, Northern Colorado, and Utah Valley are all in big 12 Wrestling.
 
husky429 said:
There's a national 4* lacrosse recruit living 10 minutes from Storrs, believe it or not.
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Three of the top 17 girls ranked nationally all reside in Darien, including the number 1 girl in the country.
 
CL82 said:
Are we though? From whom have we borrowed money, in what amount and to whom is it owed?
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Yup Big deficit. Subsidized by the state. From the state taxpayers. Owed by the state taxpayers. It’s not imaginary. It’s real.
 
A couple reasons, title IX plays a major role as well.

1 - wrestling is nowhere near as important a sport in the northeast as it is in the rust belt (kind of important) or the plains states (exceptionally important). We have nowhere near the talent pool to draw from that we would need to be successful.

2 - there aren't enough schools in the general vicinity willing to field a D-1 program (we would have to participate at this level) to form a conference. Our schedule would be entirely non-conference matches, likely all requiring a good amount of travel.

When Central was a D-2 school their wrestling program was pretty solid (relative to other northeast D-2 schools) and they had quite a following on a section of NY state northwest of Albany (part of the rust belt) where they recruited pretty heavily from. The move to D-1 made it difficult to maintain the program, which sadly made it an easy choice to be a title IX cut.
 
TheHorde said:
Yup Big deficit. Subsidized by the state. From the state taxpayers. Owed by the state taxpayers. It’s not imaginary. It’s real.
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You understand that a deficit and debt is different, right? Because it doesn't seem like you do. You keep talking about money being "owed" apparently by "the taxpayers" based upon your quote above. To whom do you believe that the taxpayers owe this money, and in what amount?
 
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TheHorde said:
Yup Big deficit. Subsidized by the state. From the state taxpayers. Owed by the state taxpayers. It’s not imaginary. It’s real.
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They are subsidized by intuitional support which can come from student university fees, out of state tuition waivers for athletes... Some states use lottery revenues. I could not find the sources for UConn's except for student fees which varies. Rutgers AD has debt. $265MM. They borrowed monies from The B1G...
 
CL82 said:
You understand that a deficit and debt is different, right? Because it doesn't seem like you do. You keep talking about money being "owed" apparently by "the taxpayers" based upon your quote above. To whom do you believe that the taxpayers owe this money, and in what amount?
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It’s understanding of economics like this that got the US $31 trillion in debt. Have you ever considered writing an economics textbook?
 
TheHorde said:
It’s understanding of economics like this that got the US $31 trillion in debt. Have you ever considered writing an economics textbook?
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As, presumptively, a former writer you really should understand that "words mean things". Debt and deficit are different words with different meanings.

I noticed that you have been unable to explain to whom "the taxpayers" "owe" money. Instead you jumped to the US debt and attempted a backhanded ad personam attack rather than try to explain your position. Those are pretty clear indicators that you either don't understand the subject matter, or realize you've taken a position that isn't defensible. I can try to explain the difference to you, if you'd like, or maybe you just want to Google the words and read about it so that you will have a working understanding on a go forward basis?
 
Duncan Idaho said:
They are subsidized by intuitional support which can come from student university fees, out of state tuition waivers for athletes... Some states use lottery revenues. I could not find the sources for UConn's except for student fees which varies. Rutgers AD has debt. $265MM. They borrowed monies from The B1G...
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Yep, the university athletic department has not earned more than its accounting expenses. That doesn't mean that they had to borrow money for the difference.

Rutgers, on the other hand, has a very substantial debt as you noted. They borrowed money that will need to be repaid. We did not.
 
djct1999 said:
Three of the top 17 girls ranked nationally all reside in Darien, including the number 1 girl in the country.
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Also the #1 ranked boys player nationally is in Cheshire and committed to Notre Dame.

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Cheshire Junior Ranked National No. 1 Boys Lacrosse Player in Class

As the high school lacrosse schedule gets into the heart of the season, the Cheshire boys team is rolling with the best record in Class M. They’ve outscored opponents 91-32 through the first six games of the year. That might seem like destiny with the nation’s number one lacrosse player in the...
www.nbcconnecticut.com www.nbcconnecticut.com
 
I Bleed Blue said:
Also the #1 ranked boys player nationally is in Cheshire and committed to Notre Dame.

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Cheshire Junior Ranked National No. 1 Boys Lacrosse Player in Class

As the high school lacrosse schedule gets into the heart of the season, the Cheshire boys team is rolling with the best record in Class M. They’ve outscored opponents 91-32 through the first six games of the year. That might seem like destiny with the nation’s number one lacrosse player in the...
www.nbcconnecticut.com www.nbcconnecticut.com
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I want to like this because the number one ranked player nationally is from Cheshire, but couldn't bring myself to do it because he committed to Notre Dame. As happened with basketball, I hope we will eventually get to a point where we can keep home the best Connecticut kids.
 
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CL82 said:
Yep, the university athletic department has not earned more than its accounting expenses. That doesn't mean that they had to borrow money for the difference.

Rutgers, on the other hand, has a very substantial debt as you noted. They borrowed money that will need to be repaid. We did not.
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Toscano mentioned things will need to be clarified like monies going to CRDA for using the Rent, its parking, concession revenues and the XL. It's confusing the narrative., Also, some ADs' budgets contain costs for facilities maintenance, others do not.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Toscano mentioned things will need to be clarified like monies going to CRDA for using the Rent, its parking, concession revenues and the XL. It's confusing the narrative., Also, some ADs' budgets contain costs for facilities maintenance, others do not.
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A different but related issue is that having a quasi-public entity which owns two of our major venues means that we are paying above the going rate for the use of those facilities, plus, as you pointed out, we don't realize concession and parking revenues at those venues. The end result of that is that a portion of the CDRA's annual losses are being shifted from being reported on their balance sheet to the athletic department. On an accounting basis it makes them look less inept and generates a significant portion of the accounting loss that some people confuse with debt.
 
The number 1 boys and girls recruits are both in CT. It’s really a joke that we don’t have a team for them.
 
Huskyforlife said:
The number 1 boys and girls recruits are both in CT. It’s really a joke that we don’t have a team for them.
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uconnhuskies.com

Women's Lacrosse

The official Women's Lacrosse page for the University of Connecticut Huskies
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Huskies Eliminated from NCAA Tournament with Loss to Penn - University of Connecticut Athletics

NEWTON, Mass. – The UConn Women's Lacrosse team was eliminated from the NCAA Tournament by the University of Pennsylvania Quakers on Friday afternoon at the ...
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Huskyforlife said:
The number 1 boys and girls recruits are both in CT. It’s really a joke that we don’t have a team for them.
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Probably would have a number of player scholarships and coach positions endowed. by now if we started this when Hathaway was here.
 
Sick Puppy said:
Some of the best athletes in CT HS's play Lacrosse.
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Yeah. New England is a hotbed for lacrosse. Of course nobody goes to the games. I mean, why would they. Outdoors in February! PC dropped baseball to play lacrosse. They landed, well, no particular talent but they have a team. The baseball team, fwiw, was pretty good. Just because you like a sport doesn’t mean that UConn needs to sponsor it or that enough people care to pay for it. And just because high school kids play it doesn’t mean we will get them or will win. If it did the national championships hip would be Providence-Bryant every year.
 
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TheHorde said:
It’s understanding of economics like this that got the US $31 trillion in debt. Have you ever considered writing an economics textbook?
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Do you know anything about government accounting except what you hear on Fox News? Do you know anything about the UConn athletic budget? What would you cut from the UConn Athletic budget? From the federal budget?
 
TheHorde said:
It’s understanding of economics like this that got the US $31 trillion in debt. Have you ever considered writing an economics textbook?
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Have you considered reading one?
 
Scoe said:
Why not, Northern Iowa, South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Wyoming, Airforce, Northern Colorado, and Utah Valley are all in big 12 Wrestling.
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And Danbury high is a major pipeline to a major top 5 program at Nc state.
 
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