Who was calling the offensive plays?

[Stinger92860]

I am not sure it would have made a difference anyway but....

Gdl had a headset and was near pp most of the night. Is it possible that we have a repeat of what happened in cuse? There were a few head scratchers reminiscent of gdl. The 3 runs and out bring one example. One of the horde needs to ask this question.

 

[Gate97]

That goal line series after the McCombs run had GDL's fingerprints all over it - big I set followed by the wishbone? Hard to see Weist calling for that even from the 1 yard line.

 

[Stinger92860]

I recall that formation from last year. The cuse guys told us the pp and gdl were still in charge when gdl was demoted at cuse. Is history repeating itself? Obviously, the 3/4 receiver sets were weist, but I wonder if pp panicked and took over the play calling.

 

[UConnDan97]

Yes, yes. Only the good plays were TJ Weist's. Of course.

It was well known prior to the game that GDL would be on the sidelines and TJ would be in the booth. Every coach was miked up with very few exceptions. I'm willing to give GDL every ounce of responsibility for that crappy crappy performance of the OLine, trust me! But TJ Weist was calling the plays. And guess what? Not too good, huh? That was my impression too.

I think that we all were hoping that this guy would be the next great strategic general. In fact, he showed that he's prone to some of the same silly mistakes that many other coaches are prone to; things like trying to find "a balanced attack" and all that. F#$k that! You throw the ball to Geremy and Shakim until they prove that they can stop it. Period. The third quarter of that game was unbelievable, and the fourth quarter was not much better. That's on TJ. He has to own that...

 

[Stinger92860]

Yes, yes. Only the good plays were TJ Weist's. Of course.

It was well known prior to the game that GDL would be on the sidelines and TJ would be in the booth. Every coach was miked up with very few exceptions. I'm willing to give GDL every ounce of responsibility for that crappy crappy performance of the OLine, trust me! But TJ Weist was calling the plays. And guess what? Not too good, huh? That was my impression too.

I think that we all were hoping that this guy would be the next great strategic general. In fact, he showed that he's prone to some of the same silly mistakes that many other coaches are prone to; things like trying to find "a balanced attack" and all that. F#$k that! You throw the ball to Geremy and Shakim until they prove that they can stop it. Period. The third quarter of that game was unbelievable, and the fourth quarter was not much better. That's on TJ. He has to own that...

I agree with every thing you wrote. I asked my question because I don't know the answer. this is what happened cuse so many years ago. We just don't know how much was TJ or pp. in any event the offense was atrocious.

 

[Srqhusky]

Yes, yes. Only the good plays were TJ Weist's. Of course.

It was well known prior to the game that GDL would be on the sidelines and TJ would be in the booth. Every coach was miked up with very few exceptions. I'm willing to give GDL every ounce of responsibility for that crappy crappy performance of the OLine, trust me! But TJ Weist was calling the plays. And guess what? Not too good, huh? That was my impression too.

I think that we all were hoping that this guy would be the next great strategic general. In fact, he showed that he's prone to some of the same silly mistakes that many other coaches are prone to; things like trying to find "a balanced attack" and all that. F#$k that! You throw the ball to Geremy and Shakim until they prove that they can stop it. Period. The third quarter of that game was unbelievable, and the fourth quarter was not much better. That's on TJ. He has to own that...

Air whitmer. Just let him keep airing it out!

 

[Stinger92860]

Air whitmer. Just let him keep airing it out!

Not sure that's the answer as the oline could not give him time against Towson. How will they do that against Maryland or Michigan.

 

[UConnDan97]

I agree with every thing you wrote. I asked my question because I don't know the answer. this is what happened cuse so many years ago. We just don't know how much was TJ or pp. in any event the offense was atrocious.

If by a remote chance GDL was calling the shots in the second half, and I'm TJ Weist, I'm on the phone with Warde 20 minutes after the game. He knows he is working for a dead-man-walking, and he is also aware that Warde publicly instated him for the very reason that Warde didn't want GDL calling plays anymore. Warde would likely not want to suffer that public embarrassment that he was being usurped, so that would essentially be the end of GDL this week....and PP....and they both know it...

 

[Jarhead_1775]

Yeah, I know a guy... he has access to the headset conversations and in fact, the plays were called by GDL and PP

 

[junglehusky]

Yeah, I know a guy... he has access to the headset conversations and in fact, the plays were called by GDL and PP

I really hope the guy you know who had access to the radio was a UConn coach. Cause if not... oh boy!

 

[UConnDan97]

I really hope the guy you know who had access to the radio was a UConn coach. Cause if not... oh boy!

Jarhead works for the NSA....he just looked through all the "meta-data"...

 

[junglehusky]

oh, it could be a player too.

 

[Jarhead_1775]

oh, it could be a player too.

There's lots of people who have access to that. Take it as a friend of a friend, etc...

 

[zls44]

Remember, PP is still big on the idea of a "pro-style" offense. So whatever TJ wants to run, he still has to mix the pass and run because PP believes in the absurd & incorrect theory of "using the run to establish the pass", one that has been thoroughly debunked by modern analytics and is no longer run at any major program I can recall.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It didn't take Towson very long to realize they did not need to respect our running game. Their defensive linemen were in sprinter's stances for the final forty minutes of the game. Adding to this, once they realized that Hemingway couldn't handle his assignment, they continually showed blitz from the opposite side (often merely a fake), preventing the offense from providing help for Hemingway.

What is most frustrating is that we are now in a position where if we drop one starting offensive lineman (this is football, if you play in the trenches there is a very strong chance that you can get dinged up enough to miss a game) we can't overcome it against an FCS school. By all rights, we should have had our #2 offense playing the entire fourth quarter and our line still should have been able to push their starters all over the field.

I blame Weist, I blame GDL, I blame every other offensive coach and I blame P for the state of our offense. I blame every defensive coach and P for the state of our defense but that does not belong in this thread.

 

[ruskin]

If by a remote chance GDL was calling the shots in the second half, and I'm TJ Weist, I'm on the phone with Warde 20 minutes after the game. He knows he is working for a dead-man-walking, and he is also aware that Warde publicly instated him for the very reason that Warde didn't want GDL calling plays anymore. Warde would likely not want to suffer that public embarrassment that he was being usurped, so that would essentially be the end of GDL this week....and PP....and they both know it...

100 percent logical. But if you're TJ and you're a nice guy (as we've established is not a quality of a lot of good football coaches) would you call Warde and do the 'narc-ing"? On the other hand, Warde should, ah, reinforce what the protocol should be. The past history of the PP-GDL phony demotion of 2004 tells me these guys think they're smarter than everyone else

I am willing to bet that TJ did not call 100 percent of the plays. And I'm willing to bet on two of the bad ones -- the screen pass and 3rd down illegal sub at the goal line -- something happened on the sideline to screw up the play call.

All I know is after the first successful series UConn went away from stuff that was working. Very similar to Buffalo and Temple last year. TJ was not here for that, but two other guys were.

 

[UConnDan97]

But if you're TJ and you're a nice guy (as we've established is not a quality of a lot of good football coaches) would you call Warde and do the 'narc-ing"?

Is this a serious question???

When you are in a high-paid high-profile job, and you are not allowed to do a function that you are going to be solely rated on, you think you shouldn't tell your supervisor because it would be considered "narc-ing"?!?

Umm...no. That's not the answer. I refuse to believe that would stand in the major college football ranks. Especially if it would affect his future prospects to become a head coach, which I am assuming is the "end-game" for TJ...

 

[Chief00]

The plays are sent in from the sideline - something to keep in mind.
At any rate, few plays work behind a GDL coached OL.

 

[UConnDan97]

The plays are sent in from the sideline - something to keep in mind.
At any rate, few plays work behind a GDL coached OL.

The part in bold is the correct answer...

 

[ruskin]

Is this a serious question???

When you are in a high-paid high-profile job, and you are not allowed to do a function that you are going to be solely rated on, you think you shouldn't tell your supervisor because it would be considered "narc-ing"?!?

Umm...no. That's not the answer. I refuse to believe that would stand in the major college football ranks. Especially if it would affect his future prospects to become a head coach, which I am assuming is the "end-game" for TJ...

Again, 100 percent logical. But TJ going to Warde means trashing the relationship with P for the rest of .. . . whatever. Maybe after 2-3 games, but not after game 1. And remember for some crazy reason future employers will somehow trust PP when it comes to TJ getting a reference. Dana Holgorsen is going to find this out when he leaves West Virginia and some AD or 'search firm' goes to Bill Stewart. I'm sure this scenario is in TJs mind. What could be viewed here as doing the right could be viewed as insubordinate elsewhere by people who sign the paychecks.

But TJ shouldn't have to go to Warde. Manuel should have the three of them in his office to find out about the play-call protocol because if some of us thought something was amiss, he better be thinking it to.

 

[metsfan2323]

At any rate, few plays work behind a GDL coached OL.

I watched the replay, there was a drive in the first half that got ruined on a second down play when Jimmy Bennett didn't block the DE standing directly in front of him (literally), he instead blocked a blitzing LB to his left, Greene ended up double teaming the nose tackle to his right (instead of switching to block the DE that Bennett vacated)...the DE ran into the backfield untouched and blew up the play for 4 yard loss, it killed the drive.

 

[upstater]

The RB and OL are not good enough to line up with FBs in the backfield in running formation.

When you're weak at this aspect of the game, you instead spread the other team out and go to a quick passing game. This has the effect of also widening the gaps between DL, which allows you to run the ball easier as well--if you have a shifty kid back there. Take advantage of what McCombs can do, forget about what he can't do.

Weist is from Cincy. He understands this. Cincy has been running precisely this kind of offense for a long time.

Make the defense show its hand. Take advantage of matchups. It is not that difficult.

 

[huskymedic]

Is this a serious question???

When you are in a high-paid high-profile job, and you are not allowed to do a function that you are going to be solely rated on, you think you shouldn't tell your supervisor because it would be considered "narc-ing"?!?

Umm...no. That's not the answer. I refuse to believe that would stand in the major college football ranks. Especially if it would affect his future prospects to become a head coach, which I am assuming is the "end-game" for TJ...

Snitches get stitches...

 

[gars44]

I am not sure it would have made a difference anyway but....

Gdl had a headset and was near pp most of the night.

I don't know the answer to your question, but GDL was not standing near PP most of the night. He was over at the bench doing a lot of coaching. Talking to the kids, showing them his board or whatever he was showing them. They don't seem to acknowledge him very much. PP paces a lot all by himself.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Yes, yes. Only the good plays were TJ Weist's. Of course.

It was well known prior to the game that GDL would be on the sidelines and TJ would be in the booth. Every coach was miked up with very few exceptions. I'm willing to give GDL every ounce of responsibility for that crappy crappy performance of the OLine, trust me! But TJ Weist was calling the plays. And guess what? Not too good, huh? That was my impression too.

I think that we all were hoping that this guy would be the next great strategic general. In fact, he showed that he's prone to some of the same silly mistakes that many other coaches are prone to; things like trying to find "a balanced attack" and all that. F#$k that! You throw the ball to Geremy and Shakim until they prove that they can stop it. Period. The third quarter of that game was unbelievable, and the fourth quarter was not much better. That's on TJ. He has to own that...

come on man... you are that good that you are going to question every freaking play call in that game.
At some point the madness needs to stop.

The team was not ready. they played like crap. we were outmanned on the o-line, d-line and special teams.

I'll put that on Coach P. The offensive was getting beat easily and Whitmer was running for his life at times.
Let's not go overboard here.