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Matrim55 said:
And yet our offense improved once he returned from his broken finger...

Nobody's saying Amida is without flaws, and I wince any time we try to feed him in the post. I'd honestly rather have him pick-and-pop for 14 footers. But you guys who insist he hasn't improved are bonkers, and no longer worth engaging with.

Thank you for your interest in UConn basketball.
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Our offense didn't improve because of him. It improved because JA developed some lead guard skills with more time on the floor after playing through his mistakes and DHAM learning to trust his teammates at times.
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah, he got a preview of playing in Europe as that is were he is destined to play. Love AB's attitude but he just isn't strong enough player to go against the big boys. He gets pushed around like a rag doll.
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Enoch speaking.
 
6thBoroBro said:
Seems like its not happening anymore, according to Borges. Enoch will be a force next year. Best case scenario may be Brimah taking on a Nolan-esque role next year, with Enoch logging heavy minutes, supplemented with Facey, Vance, and Mamadou grabbing minutes.
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Salivating about the Enoch mamadou line up. Some meat back on the team
 
Matrim55 said:
I mean, you can't even be bothered to read the thread and understand who each post is about.

You're utterly miserable.
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Hey I made a mistake on that one. I thought you were talking about AB. Yes, I think SE has a chance to make an impact inside. He has the body and the offensive moves. He just needs to work on defense and not being intimidated on that side of the ball.
 
MervthePurvis said:
Salivating about the Enoch mamadou line up. Some meat back on the team
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Yes I hope that is our starting lineup and Kelis Fisher and AB are coming off the bench when we need their strengths.
 
Let's all get a grip here.

- Yes, Brimah is improved over where he was as a freshman and sophomore; his rebounding instincts, while inconsistent, have been better the last few weeks
- Yes, many of us expected faster development than what we've seen; he and Thabeet came in with a similar level of experience, but Thabeet in 2 years progressed more than Brimah has in 3

It's not a contradiction both to acknowledge that Brimah has improved and to be disappointed that he hasn't improved enough.

Regardless of expectations, our frontcourt is not at the level we're accustomed to and that, arguably, we need to get back to in order to have consistent success. Facey has shown he is not the answer. Enoch is hard to get a read on -- he's shown some flashes, but is young.

This coming year will be a big one in terms of the development of our bigs. We'll be able to more fully assess that staff's ability to develop frontcourt talent and also see what we have in the next generation (Enoch, Diarra, maybe Durham).
 
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Can we all agree we need someone to coach these big men? A staff full of guards isn't gonna cut it when it comes to developing the front court players of this team. Ollie needs to pick up that phone Purvis kept dialing in the AAC tourney and call somebody like Donyell, Caron, Okafor, or any big man really.
 
Matrim55 said:
Considering that he played half this season with a broken finger, and that his stats from last year were greatly inflated by the Coppin State game (no equivalent this year)... yes, improvement.

I ignored the rest of the stuff in your post because it was stupid - PER is for simpletons, and block % is strongly tied to rebound rate. You wouldn't know that, though, because you do not understand basketball.
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Brimah also began last year having just recovered from shoulder surgery, and since when do you get to selectively decide what games should and shouldn't count? The Coppin State game happened, it was a regular season game, it counts. He played 35 games last season, 1 great game isn't going to influence the season long stat that much.

PER doesn't count, games that happened don't count, block % apparently doesn't count even though that's his best skill...But I'm the idiot here? Lol. You are delusional.
 
Matrim55 said:
And yet our offense improved once he returned from his broken finger...

Nobody's saying Amida is without flaws, and I wince any time we try to feed him in the post. I'd honestly rather have him pick-and-pop for 14 footers. But you guys who insist he hasn't improved are bonkers, and no longer worth engaging with.

Thank you for your interest in UConn basketball.
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Stats don't matter but anecdotal evidence apparently does.

Enjoy standing alone on that island drinking that kool aid and thinking Brimah has shown any marked improvement. Not sure why you're picking this 1 particular thing to die on the cross for.
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah, he got a preview of playing in Europe as that is were he is destined to play. Love AB's attitude but he just isn't strong enough player to go against the big boys. He gets pushed around like a rag doll.
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He wasn't even getting pushed around a lot of the time. Being pushed would indicate he was in correct rebounding position to begin with lol.
 
I swear, Brimah could average 40/20/10 and people would still be finding ways to glue him to the bench.
 
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A lot of this Brimah discussion is silly. He's not going to average 20 points a game. But there is no doubt that our defense is night and day when he's on the court. Period. Our guards can get much more aggressive with him in. That was a big part of the first half nightmare tonight. He needs to learn to stay out of foul trouble, because we need him...
 
Stairmaster said:
I swear, Brimah could average 40/20/10 and people would still be finding ways to glue him to the bench.
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Or, you know, just not be in a situation where I can statistically argue that Brimah hasn't improved at all between his freshman year and this year, or last year to this year...
 
PcketknfNiels said:
Or, you know, just not be in a situation where I can statistically argue that Brimah hasn't improved at all between his freshman year and this year, or last year to this year...
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And you could be proven wrong by some of the smartest statistical minds on the board yet still double down...because you're god's gift to basketball analysis...
 
UConnDan97 said:
A lot of this Brimah discussion is silly. He's not going to average 20 points a game. But there is no doubt that our defense is night and day when he's on the court. Period. Our guards can get much more aggressive with him in. That was a big part of the first half nightmare tonight. He needs to learn to stay out of foul trouble, because we need him...
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Brimah wasn't the factor. Kansas was actually scoring more from the perimeter when Brimah was sitting, and killing us inside later in the 2nd half when Brimah was playing. UConn's run came because Kansas was playing sluggish and tired, and not passing and cutting nearly as crisply as they had early in the game, or would again at the end of the game.
 
Stairmaster said:
And you could be proven wrong by some of the smartest statistical minds on the board yet still double down...because you're god's gift to basketball analysis...
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"Smartest statistical mind", you mean the guy that tried to selectively reject certain stats, tried to literally ignore a game that had been played and stats derived, and then resorted to pure anecdotal evidence? Lol.
 
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PcketknfNiels said:
It's really time to just cut our losses with AB and reduce his role next year. He's a good rim protector but adds literally nothing else of value and one of the reasons we get crushed on the boards is because he never has any idea where the ball is.
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Nobody rebounded particularly well tonight. Seems like you are hunting for blame to place on Brimah. He is a raw player, but he has been instrumental in some big wins this year. Can't take that from him. I think what we need from him is consistency.
 
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PcketknfNiels said:
Brimah wasn't the factor. Kansas was actually scoring more from the perimeter when Brimah was sitting, and killing us inside later in the 2nd half when Brimah was playing. UConn's run came because Kansas was playing sluggish and tired, and not passing and cutting nearly as crisply as they had early in the game, or would again at the end of the game.
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If you don't understand why having a 7 foot shot blocker allows you to stop perimeter shooting, then there's not much else to discuss with you about it, really...
 
Amida Brimah with 4 Fouls and 2 rebounds today, a day in which we needed him the most. Brimah has barely improved from his Freshman to Junior year hopefully he gets better over the summer but I doubt it. I love his defense/shot blocking, his rebounding and offensive game on the other hand...Nevertheless I expect him to start next year and play big minutes because I doubt Enoch or Diarra will be good enough to justify giving them minutes over him
 
uconNYC said:
shows you what I know about the NBA ;-)
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he might end up in the end of round one, but why chance it and end up as a second rounder. I do know the draft and the NBA and know that he is liked, but not nearly as much as you think he is. He is at best a borderline first round player right now.
 
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this team looks like a bunch of micromachines next to full-blown matchboxes today and people are talking about reducing Brimah's role. Good grief.
 
KemBuckets21 said:
Nobody rebounded particularly well tonight. Seems like you are hunting for blame to place on Brimah. He is a raw player, but he has been instrumental in some big wins this year. Can't take that from him. I think what we need from him is consistency.
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Brimah seems like a nice kid, anything I'm saying about him is strictly as a player. It's time to end this fascination with him and reduce his role next year.
 
UConnDan97 said:
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If you don't understand why having a 7 foot shot blocker allows you to stop perimeter shooting, then there's not much else to discuss with you about it, really...
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Except Kansas scorched us inside in the last 8-10 minutes of the game, and from 3 early in the game before Brimah sat...
 
Towney007 said:
this team looks like a bunch of micromachines next to full-blown matchboxes today and people are talking about reducing Brimah's role. Good grief.
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What else is there to discuss? Gibbs and Miller aren't coming back. Purvis played well, and Hamilton forced some midrange stuff but shot the 3 well and was generally aggressive and playing hard.
 
Matrim55 said:
"They made a difference he does not"

He played 3 minutes in the first half and we were down 20. He played 16 minutes in the second half, and we won it by 8. Correlation isn't causality, but they're pretty clearly related.

Also, rebound rate is far from ridiculous. It's a much more useful stat than raw rebounding numbers.

And finally: He doesn't have to be as good as Emeka or Hasheem, and if that's what you're hoping for you'll be disappointed. All he has to do is continue to make incremental improvement - as he clearly, undeniably has done.
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We won a NC with Jake Voskuhl. Not exactly a big time scorer,
AB had foul issues in the first half which contributed to his lack of presence. Granted they were stupid fouls, it happens sometimes.
I also think there were a lot of debates on thabeets ability prior to his Final year.
AB will be fine next year. How can you root against his personality, passion, and genuine love for his team mates?
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah, he got a preview of playing in Europe as that is were he is destined to play. Love AB's attitude but he just isn't strong enough player to go against the big boys. He gets pushed around like a rag doll.
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I'd love him to be in the NBA. But right now he's got one more season at uconn.
Like it or not, he's the best option until someone proves differently.

KO should get Clyde Vaughn on the horn though. Maybe do it under the radar.
One season with that guy would be a game changer for our bigs.
 
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