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Message: [QUOTE="Ralph, post: 2585020, member: 7048"] for me it was Touley and we are going to need her. It is so good to see her beginning to be able to move after all her struggles. She showed so real flashes of quickness moving to the basket, and strength. If she ran into me I would be out for the count. But every game it seems the question is how quickly will Z get 5 fouls. We have all those estimates of her points and rebounds per 40 minutes. Would be interested to see her fouls per 40. Did she just play zone at Duke so she just never learned man? I would have thought that with all of last year as a learning experience she would be better at the D by now. I can't imagine what would happen if she had to play big minutes against Baylor, Miss State or S. Carolina. Only hope would be could she get them in foul trouble as fast as she gets herself in foul trouble. Stay healthy Gabby, and everyone else too. Other item I noted today, all the starters follow Geno's rule, hands up on defense. I was watching Walker and Z. Hands down at the knees for Walker and at the waist for Z a lot. I must say, someone posted the video of Shea teaching defense, and after one session of her yelling at someone else just by video, I got it. But maybe in a game it is harder than it looks to keep your hands up. I never played the game so I guess I have no business criticizing. But it seems strange to think back to all the raves we were giving Z last year and this Fall and she would push several people aside as starters. I guess we just saw the great offense and the good zone she could play at Duke, but Geno demands a whole nother level D. [/QUOTE]

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