Who comes back next year?

[mets1090]

Contracting certain teams would certainly help competitiveness but it would cause the NBA to lose money which as always is the most important thing in this discussion. Their goal is to hit as many markets as they possibly can. Having more teams allows them to do that more easily and consistently. Contracting teams would also probably force them to let less teams into the playoffs which would cause losses in ticket and TV revenue.

 

[HuskyFan32]

I agree it's pretty bad. I wouldn't mind seeing any of the following teams taken away: Bobcats, Wizards, Detroit (I guess keep them for historical reasons), NO, and Toronto. Those 5 teams have a total of 17 wins and 71 losses this year. The best team (Chicago) is 16 and 3.

I wouldn't mind taking the Bobcats, Wizards, NO and Toronto and having a league-wide draft of their players.

There is some talent on those teams, but it's hard to combine those rosters to form a really good squad. They are still pretty weak at the SF position. This is who I would take:

PG's
John Wall (Wizards)
Jose Calderon (Toronto)
Kemba Walker (Charlotte)
DJ Augustin (Charlotte)
Jarrett Jack (NO)

SG's
Eric Gordon (NO)
DeMar DeRozan (Toronto)
Nick Young (Wizards)
Gerald Henderson (Charlotte)


SF's
Trevor Ariza (NO)
Al-Farouq Aminu (NO)
Rashard Lewis (Wizards)

PF's
Bismark Biyombo (Charlotte)
Andrea Bargnani (Toronto)
Carl Landry (NO)
Ed Davis (Toronto)
Andray Blatche (Wizards)

C's
Emeka Okafor (NO)
Chris Kaman (NO)
JaVale McGee (Wizards)
Byron Mullens (Charlotte)
Amir Johnson (Toronto)

I feel sorry for anyone who has to watch the Bobcats vs. Wizards game tonight.

Agreed. Even a lot of those players you listed as options are pretty bad. Amir Johnson, BJ Mullens, Aminu, Jarret Jack. Its pretty bad that those guys are part of the select group from those teams. Even Demar Derozen. Is he actually any good or he just scores because he plays on the worst team ever assembled.

 

[caw]

Agreed. Even a lot of those players you listed as options are pretty bad. Amir Johnson, BJ Mullens, Aminu, Jarret Jack. Its pretty bad that those guys are part of the select group from those teams. Even Demar Derozen. Is he actually any good or he just scores because he plays on the worst team ever assembled.

I am not sure on DeRozan, but I think he would be a decent backup to Eric Gordon at the least.

 

[huskymagic]

I agree it's pretty bad. I wouldn't mind seeing any of the following teams taken away: Bobcats, Wizards, Detroit (I guess keep them for historical reasons), NO, and Toronto. Those 5 teams have a total of 17 wins and 71 losses this year. The best team (Chicago) is 16 and 3.

I wouldn't mind taking the Bobcats, Wizards, NO and Toronto and having a league-wide draft of their players.

There is some talent on those teams, but it's hard to combine those rosters to form a really good squad. They are still pretty weak at the SF position. This is who I would take:

PG's
John Wall (Wizards)
Jose Calderon (Toronto)
Kemba Walker (Charlotte)
DJ Augustin (Charlotte)
Jarrett Jack (NO)

SG's
Eric Gordon (NO)
DeMar DeRozan (Toronto)
Nick Young (Wizards)
Gerald Henderson (Charlotte)


SF's
Trevor Ariza (NO)
Al-Farouq Aminu (NO)
Rashard Lewis (Wizards)

PF's
Bismark Biyombo (Charlotte)
Andrea Bargnani (Toronto)
Carl Landry (NO)
Ed Davis (Toronto)
Andray Blatche (Wizards)

C's
Emeka Okafor (NO)
Chris Kaman (NO)
JaVale McGee (Wizards)
Byron Mullens (Charlotte)
Amir Johnson (Toronto)

I feel sorry for anyone who has to watch the Bobcats vs. Wizards game tonight.

You do realize that you are making my point and I actually said this in a thread like a week ago that the talent level is weak on a lot of teams in the NBA which is why Alex will definitely get drafted this year. Also, Bargnani and Gerald Henderson that somebody mentioned up above are very good players. They are definitely NBA worthy all you have to do is watch them play.

 

[HuskyFan32]

I am not sure on DeRozan, but I think he would be a decent backup to Eric Gordon at the least.

Again, I agree. Im sure hes decent, but he exemplifies a lot of the NBA right now. Athletic guy with one year of college experience who was ok in college but nothing special, starting for an awful team, and getting to shoot it 15 -20 times a game because the team has no alternative. The majority of the league is just playing young guys who were top draft picks and hoping they will pan out.

 

[HuskyFan32]

You do realize that you are making my point and I actually said this in a thread like a week ago that the talent level is weak on a lot of teams in the NBA which is why Alex will definitely get drafted this year. Also, Bargnani and Gerald Henderson that somebody mentioned up above are very good players. They are definitely NBA worthy all you have to do is watch them play.

The talent in the league may be awful, but that doesnt mean its bad enough for Alex Oriakhi to be a first round pick. You are crazy if you think that. As Ive said before, NBA GM's are idiots, but surely none of them will waste a first round pick on a 6'8 guy who cant catch, cant shoot, cant finish, and only seems interested in boxing out a few times a game. Alex is a nice kid, but his effort has been awful this year. A lot of that has to do with Drummond, but he can certainly show a little more enthusiasm.

 

[caw]

You do realize that you are making my point and I actually said this in a thread like a week ago that the talent level is weak on a lot of teams in the NBA which is why Alex will definitely get drafted this year. Also, Bargnani and Gerald Henderson that somebody mentioned up above are very good players. They are definitely NBA worthy all you have to do is watch them play.

Could he get drafted? Yes. He is talented and heck Majok got drafted. I think the odds are against him right now. I can think of 20 players in the NCAA's that look like better prospects off the top of my head.

Will he leave? No, clue. He hasn't said anything.

Could he play in the NBA? Yes, he has talent but he needs a ton of work.

 

[3rdbass]

The only guys that might not be back next year are JL(draft), AD(draft), RB(maybe not with the team anymore due to NCAA issues) and Wolfe(back to Europe). Otherwise the rest of the team will be the same. I will check with my source who actually help coach JL and his brother on the AAU circuit as we get closer to the time if he will come back or not.

 

[jibsey]

To me if Alex starts doin 18 and 10 every start, with great defense we can start talking NBA and if the NBA is that weak why would anyone watch it?

 

[ctchamps]

Orton was a 6'10" freshman with lots of upside potential, thats different than a Junior whos numbers have fallen off. But you are correct, Orton did get drafted in the late first round after averaging 3 and 3.

I think Orton is more of a case to describe AD than AO.

 

[ctchamps]

There isn't anything that I have said that isn't true or wont turn out to be true.. I was right about Daniels from the beginning who you guys were calling a stud. I said Roscoe should be starting over that guy since the beginning over Daniels because he would lose confidence and his game has suffered because of it. Shabazz has also proved my criticism correct as well so my basketball knowledge is just fine but thanks for caring.

I read a lot of your posts. The points you make about the team or players rarely bother me. It's the way you go about expressing yourself. It's annoying. There is a lot of disagreement on this board. It turns out many posters have presented points similar to yours. But very few of these posters consistently present their opinions with the degree of needing to be correct or to get acknowledged.

Certainly none of us want to be left in a vacuum. But you go to the point where you state something to create a reaction. You need to needle or put down people frequently. The only conclusion I can get from this is that you desire attention so badly you resort to negative attention.

My advice is that this won't serve you well here or life in general. You can hate me for pointing this out or try to figure out what you do that is so grating to so many people. One big hint: It is not the rationalization that you have created for yourself which you have expressed several times. You have stated that you like to be direct and not wear Husky blue glasses and have made this your badge to ignore examining the issue many of us have with you. No one is more direct than waquoit and somehow he says what he says without all the attention.

 

[huskymagic]

I read a lot of your posts. The points you make about the team or players rarely bother me. It's the way you go about expressing yourself. It's annoying. There is a lot of disagreement on this board. It turns out many posters have presented points similar to yours. But very few of these posters consistently present their opinions with the degree of needing to be correct or to get acknowledged.

Certainly none of us want to be left in a vacuum. But you go to the point where you state something to create a reaction. You need to needle or put down people frequently. The only conclusion I can get from this is that you desire attention so badly you resort to negative attention.

My advice is that this won't serve you well here or life in general. You can hate me for pointing this out or try to figure out what you do that is so grating to so many people. One big hint: It is not the rationalization that you have created for yourself which you have expressed several times. You have stated that you like to be direct and not wear Husky blue glasses and have made this your badge to ignore examining the issue many of us have with you. No one is more direct than waquoit and somehow he says what he says without all the attention.

This post made me laugh as you actually made a decent psychoanalytic break down of my ideology on the forum. You know by now that I play devils advocate on issues and players looking at things from a different perspective than everyone else. You are right though as I do tend to get carried away but thats because of my stubbornness and perfectionist attitude.

 

[champs99and04]

I think you guys are way off base. The talent in the league right now is as good as it's been in at least ten years IMO. Could 4-5 teams be contracted without anybody noticing? Absolutely. But you can name 20-30 young stars off the top of your head and that number will only rise with this years loaded draft class about to join the league.

It's not like it's easy to start on an NBA team, or even play for one. Jeff Adrien was stronger, more skilled, meaner, and more reliable than Alex Oriakhi, but he hasn't been able to get a sniff of NBA playing time for the most part. You can't seriously look at guys like Oriakhi and Napier, as they are built right now, and think they can hold their own in the NBA. 1-2 years down the road, maybe, but these are guys still struggling to master the college level, and the skill, talent, and athleticism in the NBA is miles ahead of the college game.

 

[NHUConnfan]

I think you guys are way off base. The talent in the league right now is as good as it's been in at least ten years IMO. Could 4-5 teams be contracted without anybody noticing? Absolutely. But you can name 20-30 young stars off the top of your head and that number will only rise with this years loaded draft class about to join the league.

It's not like it's easy to start on an NBA team, or even play for one. Jeff Adrien was stronger, more skilled, meaner, and more reliable than Alex Oriakhi, but he hasn't been able to get a sniff of NBA playing time for the most part. You can't seriously look at guys like Oriakhi and Napier, as they are built right now, and think they can hold their own in the NBA. 1-2 years down the road, maybe, but these are guys still struggling to master the college level, and the skill, talent, and athleticism in the NBA is miles ahead of the college game.

Jeff Adrien also is undersized for his position. Alex Oriakhi however looks like your prototypical PF. Except...he can't do any of that stuff (something Adrien could do.)

Napier I doubt will ever make it into the NBA. For me, Napier is a lot like Jacob Pullen, who I think was a fantastic college player, a great shooter, and a great leader. Yet, Pullen is playing in Italy. He didn't even get drafted. That's what happens when you're 6ft (being generous to Napier) and don't have the freakish athleticism that Kemba Walker has.

Both AO and Napier are 4 year players. Lamb probably should leave this year as long as his draft stock isn't hurt too much (down into the late first round.) Lamb wouldn't start for an NBA team for quite a while, but definitely would prove to be a serviceable role player in his first couple of years. Drummond should leave just based on money, but really would benefit much more from spending another year starting at UConn versus getting lost in the doldrums of NBADL, which is where he'd end up most likely for at least one year.

 

[ctchamps]

This post made me laugh as you actually made a decent psychoanalytic break down of my ideology on the forum. You know by now that I play devils advocate on issues and players looking at things from a different perspective than everyone else. You are right though as I do tend to get carried away but thats because of my stubbornness and perfectionist attitude.

Being stubborn and/or a perfectionist can work both for you and against you. They are traits that allow us to accomplish things and do so with quality. There is nothing wrong with being irritable about things and occasionally expressing the irritability. However incessant use of this trait turns people off and then you are serving no one least of all yourself. In other words learn to be discerning when you chose to pick your battles.

Consider this a bad habit on your part that with modification can be turned into a positive. Next time you get irritated by something someone does or says, keep the conversation within your head or express it out of the company of the irritating principal but not to someone who would end up telling that individual. When you get yourself under control, express your opinion but do so without any expectation whatsoever. This does not make you a phony to yourself. The idea is to be true to yourself, but allow others to decide what is the truth for them. The only real change that we can expect is from ourselves. It is very unlikely that we can make any meaningful or significant changes in others unless they agree to make those changes. Therefore the only logical change that any of us can make is how we chose to react to people or deal with them. If your goal is to be alone or isolated then continue behaving in the manner you are exhibiting. But if you want to make a real impact on the world then consider implementing what I'm suggesting. The idea for each and every one of us is to make ourselves happy by figuring out our own methods of contentment and peace and not fixing others to get contentment and peace.

I believe you are young. I wish someone started me on this path when I was much younger. I'm still working on it, and I can tell you it is a much better way of going through life.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

After some deep soul searching and discussions with my loved ones, I have decided that I will forego entering my name into the NBA draft and return to the Boneyard for next season.

You may all now be at ease.

 

[61cygni]

After some deep soul searching and discussions with my loved ones, I have decided that I will forego entering my name into the NBA draft and return to the Boneyard for next season.

You may all now be at ease.

Huge mistake, man, take the money and run!

 

[Walker11]

. You are right though as I do tend to get carried away but thats because of my stubbornness and perfectionist attitude.

This made me laugh. Look at your grammar.

I also agree with Champs about the level of play in the NBA. It is extremely high. The level of NBA knowledge on this board is extremely low.

 

[mets1090]

I also agree with Champs about the level of play in the NBA. It is extremely high. The level of NBA knowledge on this board is extremely low.

I know less about the NBA than the other 3 major sports but that's because it isn't of much interest to me. The reason it isn't of much interest is to me is that the level of play is so high that it can become boring to watch. Everything looks effortless.

 

[huskymagic]

This made me laugh. Look at your grammar.

I also agree with Champs about the level of play in the NBA. It is extremely high. The level of NBA knowledge on this board is extremely low.

This made me laugh. A post by someone who thinks they know grammar and then points out something that is already written correctly such as perfectionist. You must really be proud of your capabilities.

 

[Walker11]

I bolded perfectionist because that was the funny part of your post, not because the word was misspelled. I was talking about the majority of your posts which read like a 12 year old wrote them.

I don't really care if someone has poor grammar on a message board. I just thought it was funny that your excuse for causing controversies was because you are a perfectionist, yet you occasionally can't be bothered to use commas or capitalize letters. Not the sign of a perfectionist. IMO, the real reason you cause controversies is because you like attention and are a little douchey.

 

[huskymagic]

I bolded perfectionist because that was the funny part of your post, not because the word was misspelled. I was talking about the majority of your posts which read like a 12 year old wrote them.

I don't really care if someone has poor grammar on a message board. I just thought it was funny that your excuse for causing controversies was because you are a perfectionist, yet you occasionally can't be bothered to use commas or capitalize letters. Not the sign of a perfectionist. IMO, the real reason you cause controversies is because you like attention and are a little douchey.

worry about the team and the next game against nd. This conversation is pointless

 

[MarieM]

how many schollys are there available for next season?

 

[MarieM]

Kevin Durant said he would choose Lamb over HArrison Barnes and Drummond over Anthony Davis