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With all that is going on with the basketball team and their problems with grades and graduation rates. i would really like to know some of the players that may have really messed this up for us. i would have to think that the players would have to start with alot of the players coming from the 06-07 class of recruits. i really started to get into uconn basketball around that time.I am sure that it had to be muliple players that messed the APR up. But i am sick of all this speculation I WANT NAMES!!!! i need some help out there. What players do you suspect had a part in this horrible time in uconn basketball?
 
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Dove.... I dont believe Gavin edwards graduated. Stanley probably didnt graduate but he left for a semester so that wasnt really his fault.
 
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With all that is going on with the basketball team and their problems with grades and graduation rates. i would really like to know some of the players that may have really messed this up for us. i would have to think that the players would have to start with alot of the players coming from the 06-07 class of recruits. i really started to get into uconn basketball around that time.I am sure that it had to be muliple players that messed the APR up. But i am sick of all this speculation I WANT NAMES!!!! i need some help out there. What players do you suspect had a part in this horrible time in uconn basketball?

Why? Why do you WANT NAMES? (four exclamation points) What are you going to do, hunt them down and make them study? Kick some ass?
Seriously, why is it so important to know which players failed out of some classes?
 
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Are you serious? We know plenty of the names. It's been discussed enough.
Im dead serious i know nothing about names all i know is that we are banned from the 2013 Big East Tournament and the 2013 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. i have read many reports on this topic but haven't heard of any names? And to Barkingdog NO Im not going to hunt them down and make them study. its just good to know who committed the crime that now has the basketball team in jail basically for 1 year!! im a big fan and supporter and go to the BE tournament every year just to see Uconn play and now that is taken away from me because of guys that couldn't do right by Coach C and the University that gave them the privilege to represent them.
 
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If you really want to know, which it appears you do:

Doug Wiggins-Transfer
Curtis Kelly-Transfer
Jeff Adrien-last semester of senior year
Scottie Haralson-Transfer
Charles Okwandu(maybe)-ineligible academically in second semester of 09 season, may have lost an apr point for first semester
Gavin Edwards-last semester of senior year
Darius Smith-Transfer, possibly an 0-2 second semester in 09-10
Jamaal Trice-JUCO Transfer
Jonathan Mandeldove-"Redshirt" year. Maybe even an 0-4 on the apr in 09-10
Jamaal Coombs-McDaniel-Transfer


There may be some errors or omissions, but I think that's mostly correct.
 
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If you really want to know, which it appears you do:

Doug Wiggins-Transfer
Curtis Kelly-Transfer
Jeff Adrien-last semester of senior year
Scottie Haralson-Transfer
Charles Okwandu(maybe)-ineligible academically in second semester of 09 season, may have lost an apr point for first semester
Gavin Edwards-last semester of senior year
Darius Smith-Transfer, possibly an 0-2 second semester in 09-10
Jamaal Trice-JUCO Transfer
Jonathan Mandeldove-"Redshirt" year. Maybe even an 0-4 on the apr in 09-10
Jamaal Coombs-McDaniel-Transfer


There may be some errors or omissions, but I think that's mostly correct.
Thanks for your knowledge. i also speculated that maybe Stanley Robinson had something to do with it. with him not being on the team for a semester due to academics and i would have to believe he didnt get his degree as much as i loved "sticks" but if you want to bring in transfers we had a few more like you said Doug and Curtis. Ben Evans and Ron Garrison transferred after (06-07) but do transfers that leave with passing grades effect the APR? if you remember earlier in that season (07-08) swing man Marcus johnson abruptly leaves the team and campus to transfer i do think that that could have also been a huge sting to the APR also Ater Majok his whole presents being here just felt shady i thought he had potential but i really didn't believe he was uconn smart kinda felt like he was out version of cuse's Fab Melo. i also thought Nate Miles getting kicked out during the first few weeks of the first semester could have hurt us in that department as well not to mention the debacle that came with him #SMH. idk this whole thing can be a little CIS
 
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Thanks for your knowledge. i also speculated that maybe Stanley Robinson had something to do with it. with him not being on the team for a semester due to academics and i would have to believe he didnt get his degree as much as i loved "sticks"

Getting a degree really doesn't have anything to do with the APR. As long as you have enough credits and are in good "academic" standing, you're fine. It's unfair to punish sticks for not graduating when he was only in school for 7 semesters.
 

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Getting a degree really doesn't have anything to do with the APR. As long as you have enough credits and are in good "academic" standing, you're fine. It's unfair to punish sticks for not graduating when he was only in school for 7 semesters.

He was drafted though so I don't think he is an issue. If a player is drafted into the NBA before graduation I think the school doesn't take an APR hit
 

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chesus christ. no matter how many times the apr is explained, i always see ppl still just completely wrong about the ways it works and every thread turns into a baby getting run over by a dump truck.
 
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There were some other guys who left early too - Rudy Gray, ChuckVillanova, Ben Jordan, Josh Poon. A couple guys who left early graduated though, like Emeka Pokafor in '04 and Kimba Parker last year.

Oh btw i'm a big fan and supporter as well.
 
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chesus christ. no matter how many times the apr is explained, i always see ppl still just completely wrong about the ways it works and every thread turns into a baby getting run over by a dump truck.
We know you are well connected and do so much work for all of our benefit ... so ... can you, in laymen's terma explain the APR?
 
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There were some other guys who left early too - Rudy Gray, ChuckVillanova, Ben Jordan, Josh Poon. A couple guys who left early graduated though, like Emeka Pokafor in '04 and Kimba Parker last year.

Oh btw i'm a big fan and supporter as well.
ya but all those guys that left early doesn't effect the apr. its the transfers and the players who slacked off and failed classes. going to the NBA dosnt effect it. if that was the case John Caliparis teams would never be in the NCAA tournemnt. Plus the guys you named have been gone for a very long time. this whole case about the team really stems back to me with the 06-07 season and forward.
 

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We know you are well connected and do so much work for all of our benefit ... so ... can you, in laymen's terma explain the APR?

the only thing im well connected to is the internet. sitting behind a desk in a admissions office getting thru grad school is the worst.:D

if we really want to have a end all be all thread for apr and the future of the ships with us(seems to be a daily thing also) i'll write one up with my shift key and all that jazz
 
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the only thing im well connected to is the internet. sitting behind a desk in a admissions office getting thru grad school is the worst.:D

if we really want to have a end all be all thread for apr and the future of the ships with us(seems to be a daily thing also) i'll write one up with my shift key and all that jazz

I for one would like to see an "APR for Dummies". Its become confusing with all the APR experts on the Boneyard.
 
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ya but all those guys that left early doesn't effect the apr. its the transfers and the players who slacked off and failed classes. going to the NBA dosnt effect it. if that was the case John Caliparis teams would never be in the NCAA tournemnt. Plus the guys you named have been gone for a very long time. this whole case about the team really stems back to me with the 06-07 season and forward.

Incorrect.
 
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aPR rules

You get 1 point at the end of every semester for meeting two criteria:

1. Eligibility (i.e. completing a certain number of credits of coursework)
2. Retention (Returning to school)

So, if you complete a certain number of credits, and return to school, you get 2 out of 2 points for the Fall semester, and 2 out of 2 points for the spring semester. You count as a 4/4 in APR calculations.

If you transfer in the spring, you lose a point for retention in the spring semester. So, your score drops to a 3/4 if you have enough credits. However, if you maintained a 2.6 average, the NCAA waives one of the criteria, and you end up counting as a 3/3 instead.

If you leave for the NBA, your school receives a waiver for the retention criteria, and similarly, you only count as a 3/3. If you leave without the appropriate amount of credits taken, however, you drop to a 2/4. Or, worse, if you screw up the Fall semester (as Fab Melo did) and don't manage to complete your coursework, you could count as a 1/4 or even a 0/4.

This is why the emphasis is taken completely off academics and graduation by this stupid rule. By giving players credit for the Fall semester when we know players want to stay eligible into the spring (so they can play basketball) you essentially reward them for simply being warm bodies, rather than for completing a year of schooling. Similarly, actually graduating with a degree counts for no more than a retention point. It's just as good to take fluff intersession courses your freshman year as it is to earn a degree. Both count as a 1 out of 4 points. Absurd and perverse.

Graduation is supposed to matter when it comes to the GSR (grad success rate) but since pros and transfers don't count in the GSR, one wonders what the heck they are measuring. None of Kentucky's one-and-dones figure into the GSR at all. So, essentially, the NCAA wants to know how many of your players who don't leave early or transfer actually graduate. If you can't meet the minimum requirement of 50%, I'd say you're doing something wrong. In fact, you are much better off having 3 serious students at the end of the bench, while the rest of your players leave early or transfer (with the appropriate amount of fluff or intersession courses under their belt). So, your GSR will be, say, 67% if two of those 3 serious students earn a degree.

At the very end of the aPR, you tally up the scores, divide by possible score, multiply times 1,000 to get your GPR score.

If you want a short version of this, just go to the top and read the two criteria. Simple.
 

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Rule of thumb for basketball:

1) Teams can safely lose 3 points a year. 4 points is below the 930 cutline. The 4 year rolling cutline is 3.5 points a year.
2) Academically ineligible players leaving the program cost 2 points. They don't get waivers for transfer or the NBA.
3) Normal Div I transfers cost the program 1 point.
 
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Rule of thumb for basketball:

1) Teams can safely lose 3 points a year. 4 points is below the 930 cutline. The 4 year rolling cutline is 3.5 points a year.
2) Academically ineligible players leaving the program cost 2 points. They don't get waivers for transfer or the NBA.
3) Normal Div I transfers cost the program 1 point.

3) Unless they have a GPA above 2.6 and then the criteria is waived. So, the player counts as a 3/3.
 

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Dumb thread
I tend to agree, but you look at how stupidly complicated this system is, and how it doesn't really measure academic progress in any meaningful sense, and it's understandable why people are confused. It's a dumb system.
 
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