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Which Would Make You Feel Bettet About UConn's Loss To Iowa?

Which of the Following Would Make You Feel Better About UConn's Loss to Iowa

  • Iowa Getting Routed By SC and Realizing a Trip to TitleA Game Would Have Been in Vain

    Votes: 57 44.2%
  • Iowa Winning Title Game and Taking Solace in Barely Losing to Eventual Champs

    Votes: 40 31.0%
  • A Replay of 2021 Regional Final.and Remembering Controversial Calls Even Out

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • I Don't Want To Feel Better and Prefer to Wallow in Misery

    Votes: 26 20.2%
  • Iowa Getting Routed By SC and Realizing a Trip to Title Game Would Have Been in Vain

    Votes: 28 21.7%
  • Iowa Getting Routed By SC and Realizing a Trip to Title Game Would Have Been in Vain

    Votes: 26 20.2%

  • Total voters
    129
I dunno about anyone else, but I certainly don't view Clark as being the villain in any way whatsoever. She's never put herself on a pedestal -- the media did that. She pushes off (a lot), but it's not up to her to call a foul, that's up to the officials. The officials do sometimes call a foul, but mostly it's on the defender, as happened last night.
Part of the idea of Clark in this role comes from the ESPN article by Wright Thompson. She exhibits a bunch of petulant (and at times just childish) behavior. Villain is probably the weong term as she’s not hated, but it can be much easier to dislike or root against her.
 
Referees not calling any fouls on UConn, while officiating the final.
 
Count me as one wallowing in my misery. Lol. I was always a UConn fan but haven't been as die hard until recently. I can only imagine how the 2017-2019 stretch felt. But this one felt worse than losing in the finals to SC and losing to Arizona. But I think it's hard, and granted 99.9 percent of programs deal with this so it's kind of entitlement, because I wanted the seniors to win a ring. Really have felt that way for the past three years. I really hate the whole they haven't won since Stewie thing. Even Stewie said it during the broadcast.
 
well then, both birds should lose/ gamecocks pounded uconn in the season remember.
Well since both can’t lose, I care more about the team that just beat UConn than the loss from months ago.
 
Part of the idea of Clark in this role comes from the ESPN article by Wright Thompson. She exhibits a bunch of petulant (and at times just childish) behavior. Villain is probably the weong term as she’s not hated, but it can be much easier to dislike or root against her.
I think Clark has, for the most part, been a remarkably classy player and has done a great job of maintaining her equilibrium in the face of all this media attention! In fact, I think some of her relatively innocuous interactions on court, usually not directed at anyone specific, have been used to justify and excuse similar actions that were aimed specifically at an individual! Clearly, she has occasionally exhibited petulance and perhaps even childish behavior but, on the whole, and considering the overwhelming amount of media attention she has received, I would say, very little!!
 
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I dunno about anyone else, but I certainly don't view Clark as being the villain in any way whatsoever. She's never put herself on a pedestal -- the media did that. She pushes off (a lot), but it's not up to her to call a foul, that's up to the officials. The officials do sometimes call a foul, but mostly it's on the defender, as happened last night.
I don’t know about that… after reading about her comments yesterday I think she is very self indulgent. No villain, self absorbed, yes. The media is all CC hype and continues to be. she is the greatest scorer the game has seen. Period. And yes, she has exhibited petulant behavior quite often from my observations. Pushes off quite often also.
 
Did you start happy hour early?
Oooops- I dont sleep at all during MARCH....And early Aprill.... BUT THAT WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH LAST NIGHT !!! After...the Lake Erie Iceberg the night before !!!!!
 
I have no faith in the NCAA correcting the officiating problem. It has been bad for a long while.

I beleive thius is just lip service to quiet the crowd.
The NFL admits when the refs made a bad call or when they missed a call in critical situations or critical games. They also name the referees involved and suspend them from officiating playoff games and the Super Bowl for as many seasons as it takes for the referees to show they won’t repeat the error. Perhaps the NCAA should take a page from the NFL’s book.
 
The men winning back to back NCs.
I, like most others here,wish they had let that last possession play out but it was a foul and it was called. Iowas had a great year they played a great 2 nd half. They had nothing to do with the call. Good luck to them. I like Dawn too so good luck to her.
 
IF, people would stop complaining about that last foul call. As Geno would say: "It is what it is."
 
I am watching the game and hoping that South Carolina goes out there and crushes Iowa. Not because Iowa beat us but because I want to see South Carolina run the table and complete their mission. Iowa is the last obstacle in the way.
 
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I am watching the game and hoping that South Carolina goes out there and crushes Iowa. Not because Iowa beat us but because I want to see South Carolina run the table and complete their mission. Iowa is the last obstacle in the way.
You want to see Iowa crushed? What has South Carolina done for women's basketball this year compared to Clark and Iowa? Are little girls standing in line after the games to get their signatures, photos, to wear their jerseys? After the UCONN v. Iowa game drew 14 million, you now want to see a one sided "crush"? I will tell you this. If Iowa wins, it will be the single most important moment in womens basketball and compel it into the arena of America's top favorite sports. Even a great close game may do that. I think that is in everyone's interest who is a true womens basketball fan.
 
Are little girls standing in line after the games to get their signatures, photos, to wear their jerseys?
I would expect that if they’re SC fans, they probably are!! What a ridiculous statement.

Do you think Iowa is the only program in the country to have a dedicated huge fanbase? I was at Albany and there were just as many SC fans there as there were Iowa fans. I’ve been to games to see SC play before (prior to this year) and their fans ALWAYS show up in impressive numbers. Also Dawn has done a lot for the community in her home state and for WOC in sports. Sorry if you’re uninformed.

BTW last time I checked, no one is “deserving” of titles simply because they have a fanbase.
 
I want SC to win decisively over Iowa. I’m petty. I always want the teams that beat UConn to lose.

I also want Strong to commit to UConn and for the men to bring home #6. Never let anyone forget who owns college basketball!!
2 down, 1 to go …
 
IF, people would stop complaining about that last foul call. As Geno would say: "It is what it is."
Ya complaining about it the night it happened is one thing, after 24-48 hours you either dwell on it or move past it, UConn definetly did enough to lose that game. Come back better and hungrier next year. Hopefully the men get number 6 tomorrow.
 
I would expect that if they’re SC fans, they probably are!! What a ridiculous statement.

Do you think Iowa is the only program in the country to have a dedicated huge fanbase? I was at Albany and there were just as many SC fans there as there were Iowa fans. I’ve been to games to see SC play before (prior to this year) and their fans ALWAYS show up in impressive numbers. Also Dawn has done a lot for the community in her home state and for WOC in sports. Sorry if you’re uninformed.

BTW last time I checked, no one is “deserving” of titles simply because they have a fanbase.
You are missing the point and taking it out of context and that is very unfair. It's not about fans in general, it's about little girls and the effect that the game is having on them for the first time. Both Clark and Paige are idols to them. I was very specific about that. That is not true of the SC players. I made the statement in reaction to a poster that said he wanted to see SC crush Iowa which I felt would not be good for the game after all the progress that was made this year including a record high 14 million viewers of UCONN v Iowa. If you are an SC fan or wanted to see such a result then you have company with that poster but I didn't. However, if there are 50 little girls lining up to get Cardoso's or someone else's autograph or photo after the SC games as I have seen this year in person for Paige in 3 different venues, then I stand corrected but I sincerely doubt that. You say you "suspect" that it happens in SC, so you don't know. Do yourself a favor. If you are going to quote someone, then either reply to the quote or put the whole quote in.
 
I would expect that if they’re SC fans, they probably are!! What a ridiculous statement.

Do you think Iowa is the only program in the country to have a dedicated huge fanbase? I was at Albany and there were just as many SC fans there as there were Iowa fans. I’ve been to games to see SC play before (prior to this year) and their fans ALWAYS show up in impressive numbers. Also Dawn has done a lot for the community in her home state and for WOC in sports. Sorry if you’re uninformed.

BTW last time I checked, no one is “deserving” of titles simply because they have a fanbase.
Finally, an article just came out in USA Today a few minutes ago which talks about how Caitlin Clark has forever changed women's sports and how they are viewed. That is part of what I was talking about and why I wanted to see a good game and not a "crush".
 
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Why feel bad? Our team did great and considering we get a bunch of healthy players back next year to go with this year's team and Sarah Strong committing....the future looks real good.
Yeah. I came to post basically this sentiment. The one thing about South Carolina, and talking about their depth, is that they were healthy. Like their top 10 were healthy coming into the tournament. As much as I harp on Geno playing his depth, UConn's top 10 was not healthy. Even Iowa probably missed Molly Davis a bit. So even though I still think we should've won Friday, I do think the whole issues with injuries is a real thing, like a real reason we did not finish the season on top. Like if Azzi started, and Ash was in a Tessa Johnson role with no pressure, just play ur game, I wonder how she woulda performed in the final four. And I think Ash was amazing all year, just saying. It's tough when everything is riding on you. So hopefully they have health next season.
 
You are missing the point and taking it out of context and that is very unfair. It's not about fans in general, it's about little girls and the effect that the game is having on them for the first time. Both Clark and Paige are idols to them. I was very specific about that. That is not true of the SC players. I made the statement in reaction to a poster that said he wanted to see SC crush Iowa which I felt would not be good for the game after all the progress that was made this year including a record high 14 million viewers of UCONN v Iowa. If you are an SC fan or wanted to see such a result then you have company with that poster but I didn't. However, if there are 50 little girls lining up to get Cardoso's or someone else's autograph or photo after the SC games as I have seen this year in person for Paige in 3 different venues, then I stand corrected but I sincerely doubt that. You say you "suspect" that it happens in SC, so you don't know. Do yourself a favor. If you are going to quote someone, then either reply to the quote or put the whole quote in.
Well, since you're not going to those games, you have no idea either, huh? :rolleyes:

For the record, I have been to all the home Syracuse WBB games in the 2023-24 season and EVERY GAME they had 50+ kids lining up to get autographs from the players after the games. Syracuse WBB doesn't even have nearly the same pull or interest as SC so draw your own conclusions.

Literally no one is denying that CC has plenty of young fans, as does Paige, but it's beyond ridiculous to act like other fanbases don't have swaths of young fans looking up to them. Sure it's probably not on the exact same level in terms of pure numbers, but they still have an impact of young kids.

ALSO the whole point of clipping a quote is because I'm responding to the relevant parts of a discussion. It's the exact same thing as quoting an entire post and then bolding the relevant parts. I don't know why that bothers you.
 
On social media, there's a story about Paige Bueckers giving an interview in which she says she hopes there isn't a singular focus on her next season as the most well-known women's basketball player. In defending Caitlin Clark (I guess this is perceived by some as criticism of her), a commenter (woman from Iowa) actually said she'd never even heard of UConn women's basketball or Geno Auriemma until this year, and that we should be grateful to Caitlin Clark for putting us on the map. And it's not Clark's fault that Iowa women's basketball is far more popular than that of any other team.

What do you even say to that?
 
Well, since you're not going to those games, you have no idea either, huh? :rolleyes:

For the record, I have been to all the home Syracuse WBB games in the 2023-24 season and EVERY GAME they had 50+ kids lining up to get autographs from the players after the games. Syracuse WBB doesn't even have nearly the same pull or interest as SC so draw your own conclusions.

Literally no one is denying that CC has plenty of young fans, as does Paige, but it's beyond ridiculous to act like other fanbases don't have swaths of young fans looking up to them. Sure it's probably not on the exact same level in terms of pure numbers, but they still have an impact of young kids.

ALSO the whole point of clipping a quote is because I'm responding to the relevant parts of a discussion. It's the exact same thing as quoting an entire post and then bolding the relevant parts. I don't know why that bothers you.
We just disagree. The whole point was the effect of Caitlin Clark and secondarily Paige on young girls and women's sports. If you are comparing the Syracuse women's effect on women's sports to CC's, then even Dawn Staley disagrees with you. I don't know why it is so difficult to accept the fact that her impact has been, as Dawn said, the greatest ever. I would defer to her opinion in that regard.

The more the women's game gets attention and has heroes, the more young girls will be drawn to it, the more they will play it, the better the game becomes, the greater the advancement of women. And just to be clear, I would bet you dollars to donuts that when the Syracuse women go and play away at say North Carolina, there are not 50 young girls lining up for autographs and photos of a Syracuse player. That's what I saw first hand with Paige and we know from videos and press accounts and social media that is what happened with CC. Sometimes a sea change is hard to accept but 12.5 million watching Iowa- LSU, a new record, and 14 million watching Iowa-UCONN, another new record says it all. CC has had an important impact on women's basketball and women's sports in general.
 
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We just disagree. The whole point was the effect of Caitlin Clark and secondarily Paige on young girls and women's sports. If you are comparing the Syracuse women's effect on women's sports to CC's, then even Dawn Staley disagrees with you. I don't know why it is so difficult to accept the fact that her impact has been, as Dawn said, the greatest ever. I would defer to her opinion in that regard.

The more the women's game gets attention and has heroes, the more young girls will be drawn to it, the more they will play it, the better the game becomes, the greater the advancement of women. And just to be clear, I would bet you dollars to donuts that when the Syracuse women go and play away at say North Carolina, there are not 50 young girls lining up for autographs and photos of a Syracuse player. That's what I saw first hand with Paige and we know from videos and press accounts and social media that is what happened with CC. Sometimes a sea change is hard to accept but 12.5 million watching Iowa- LSU, a new record, and 14 million watching Iowa-UCONN, another new record says it all. CC has had an important impact on women's basketball and women's sports in general.
I'm not comparing Syracuse to South Carolina or CC. You've missed the point. You were suggesting in your original post that young fans don't line up to see South Carolina players. I strongly disagree. They have a huge, dedicated fanbase. My Syracuse example was merely to illustrate the point if small fanbases at home can attract their own groups of young, dedicated fans then certainly a powerhouse like South Carolina can do it at home and on the road. CC is obviously the most popular attraction right now but you're acting like she's the only player fans care about and that simply isn't true. Obviously.
 
On social media, there's a story about Paige Bueckers giving an interview in which she says she hopes there isn't a singular focus on her next season as the most well-known women's basketball player. In defending Caitlin Clark (I guess this is perceived by some as criticism of her), a commenter (woman from Iowa) actually said she'd never even heard of UConn women's basketball or Geno Auriemma until this year, and that we should be grateful to Caitlin Clark for putting us on the map. And it's not Clark's fault that Iowa women's basketball is far more popular than that of any other team.

What do you even say to that?
I'd say they're:

a) delusional
b) have never paid attention to WBB until 2 years ago (and have been living under a rock)
c) is poorly attempting to throw shade

Or some mix of those options. :rolleyes: It's so obvious when people have literally just tuned in recently or are only watching game highlights on social media that the algorithm fed them, because they have absolutely zero sense of WBB history.

EDIT: I am so tired of those people who act like anything that happens or anything anyone says is somehow related to CC. The entirely of WBB doesn't revolve around her. I need people to seriously log off and go touch some grass. I saw an interview with DT where she was commenting that it's a shame that fans don't follow more women's sports beyond college and people were taking it as a slight and suggesting that Diana was just "jealous" and "bitter" about CC's success.

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That was a press conference, believe before the final four games. Listen to Paige’s complete answer. She’s talking about the media and that there are many faces of women’s basketball, not just hers (Paige). The answer is don’t believe everything you see or hear on social media.
 
I'm not comparing Syracuse to South Carolina or CC. You've missed the point. You were suggesting in your original post that young fans don't line up to see South Carolina players. I strongly disagree. They have a huge, dedicated fanbase. My Syracuse example was merely to illustrate the point if small fanbases at home can attract their own groups of young, dedicated fans then certainly a powerhouse like South Carolina can do it at home and on the road. CC is obviously the most popular attraction right now but you're acting like she's the only player fans care about and that simply isn't true. Obviously.
I don't think it is fair to assume that SC has 50 young fans line up for photos and autographs whenever they play on the road like CC does and that therefore, if that occurs, those SC players have had the same effect as Clark on women's sports. She is the one who according to Dawn Staley has had the biggest impact on women's sports, not her team, not any of her players, but Caitlin Clark. Not just a "most popular attraction" but a transitional figure for the sport and by extension women's sports. You apparently think she hasn't had that impact so let's just leave it at that. Let me know the last time SC drew a 14 million or 12.5 million audience share- and Clark was not playing. Yikes.
 
You want to see Iowa crushed? What has South Carolina done for women's basketball this year compared to Clark and Iowa? Are little girls standing in line after the games to get their signatures, photos, to wear their jerseys? After the UCONN v. Iowa game drew 14 million, you now want to see a one sided "crush"? I will tell you this. If Iowa wins, it will be the single most important moment in womens basketball and compel it into the arena of America's top favorite sports. Even a great close game may do that. I think that is in everyone's interest who is a true womens basketball fan.
Are little girls standing in line after the games to get their signatures, photos, to wear their jerseys? Yes. Yes, they were but the media was so hyperfocused on Clark so you rarely, if ever, got to see it. I am a true women's basketball fan and I can tell you it wasn't in my best interest that Iowa win. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
 
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