Where We Are Headed....

[HartfordHank]

Clearly there would have to be exceptions for guys who legitimately transfer, and even guys who flunk out or get kicked out of school because you never want there to be an incentive to keep people who are dangerous or simply can't cut it, but it is absolutely workable.

As far as the question of whether athletes should get " preferential treatment" in terms of meeting certain standards, I don't have a problem with it up to a point. But I do think it is important that the admissions people have input into the process.

I would be very leery of rules for transfers and academic failures. You need to be sure you do not open a back door that allows coaches to force kids they recruited to transfer or flunk out. You need to make the coach stand by his recruiting decisions. If he takes an academic risk or moral risk and they fail he needs to suffer for his decision. Maybe you allow 90 scholarships instead of 85 to leave a little room for error.

As I said earlier schools have to admit kids who they are confident can succeed academically. If you cannot you should not be at the school. These are Student-Athletes, not Athletes who might be students as well.

 

[freescooter]

I would be very leery of rules for transfers and academic failures. You need to be sure you do not open a back door that allows coaches to force kids they recruited to transfer or flunk out. You need to make the coach stand by his recruiting decisions. If he takes an academic risk or moral risk and they fail he needs to suffer for his decision. Maybe you allow 90 scholarships instead of 85 to leave a little room for error.

As I said earlier schools have to admit kids who they are confident can succeed academically. If you cannot you should not be at the school. These are Student-Athletes, not Athletes who might be students as well.

I agree with you mostly on this. I actually can't believe there is someone who is more rigid than I am, LOL. I just think you want to make sure that you don't have the opposite incentive, keeping kids who should have been forced to leave either for academic or behavioral problems. In a perfect world you get kids who are academically up to snuff, but even the admissions department makes mistakes on that front with non-athletes. And I would agree to some extent on transfers, too. I don't like wholesale transfers, but I also get that sometimes kids make choices that don't work well. I guess maybe I'd want to allow them under very limited circumstances, maybe subject to an application/approval process sort of like what they allow for a 6th year. I'd also be inclined to limit them to freshmen. If a guy wants to transfer after his 2nd season, the scholarship is not available. You want to stop this situation where the head coach decides to act like a GM advising kids to transfer so he can bring in someone new.

 

[HartfordHank]

You want to stop this situation where the head coach decides to act like a GM advising kids to transfer so he can bring in someone new.

I agree with this completely. If you give the coaches a inch they will take a mile. I hate hearing when a coach tells a kid, the same kid who a year earlier he told was the missing piece his team needed, he can't make it in the program and needs to transfer.

I think you need to limit the transfers to a very minimal number. Coaches need to live by their recruiting mistakes. Recruit the right kids and it will not be an issue.

 

[freescooter]

I agree with this completely. If you give the coaches a inch they will take a mile. I hate hearing when a coach tells a kid, the same kid who a year earlier he told was the missing piece his team needed, he can't make it in the program and needs to transfer.

I think you need to limit the transfers to a very minimal number. Coaches need to live by their recruiting mistakes. Recruit the right kids and it will not be an issue.

Again I don't disagree but I do think that you need to recognize that sometimes kids make choices which don't work for them. They get homesick, or just don't fit. That's why I say I would limit them to freshmen. But it would need to be limited in some way, I agree.

 

[Dann]

as i said earlier, read my rant. p is getting his boys off the island. i'm going to find the other thread i want to bump also. eventually this fire is going to click in a couple of your heads and hopefully u also press uconn to do something about it. its getting worse and worse.