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Where Are We Ranked This Week?

Where Do We End Up This Week?

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Purdue is still #1 with the best resume and best player in college ball. Kansas is easily #2 because they beat us. We slide in at #3 but Duke is rising like a bad moon thanks to a great coach and very talented team.
 
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I'll be happy if we can stay in the top 5 until Clingan gets back.
 
I expect Purdue to beat us out by 1-2 votes.
 
The Athletic has Purdue #1 and we are second for what that's worth.
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Purdue has beat some good teams, and definitely has a claim to being the #1 team in the country, but I think a 16 point in-conference loss should affect your ranking. They're a 2 loss team, it's not like they're head and shoulders above anyone
 
yungdowork said:
Purdue has beat some good teams, and definitely has a claim to being the #1 team in the country, but I think a 16 point in-conference loss should affect your ranking. They're a 2 loss team, it's not like they're head and shoulders above anyone
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We have a 15 point road loss to a worse (KP) ranked Seton Hall. And we didn’t move the next week. The only separator is a “quality loss” at Kansas vs Purdue’s at Northwestern. Although Purdue has 6 quad 1 wins vs our 4.
 
Trying to be somewhat objective, Purdue still belongs at #1 due to its ridiculous OOC, we’re #2, Kansas is #3, and Houston is #4 or 5. The Hawks loss is worse than either of the Coogs losses but two in one week is a bad look for a team that is already questionable.

UNC moves into whichever spot Houston doesn’t take and Duke is right behind because voters are too dumb to understand that getting pushed at home by a mediocre GT team isn’t good.
 
I Bleed Blue said:
We have a 15 point road loss to a worse (KP) ranked Seton Hall. And we didn’t move the next week. The only separator is a “quality loss” at Kansas vs Purdue’s at Northwestern. Although Purdue has 6 quad 1 wins vs our 4.
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The main reason we didn't move is because a bunch of teams that had a chance to pass us (Marquette, Creighton, Oklahoma, Baylor, Arizona, etc) also lost that week, and 3-loss Tennessee still came very close to passing us up. I'm not trying to take away anything from Purdue, they've been great and made the most of a tough out of conference schedule for sure.

It'll be interesting to see how much that 3-day stretch in November says about Purdue come tournament time. I don't think they're gonna have a ton of problems in their conference.
 
connVA said:
Trying to be somewhat objective, Purdue still belongs at #1 due to its ridiculous OOC, we’re #2, Kansas is #3, and Houston is #4 or 5. The Hawks loss is worse than either of the Coogs losses but two in one week is a bad look for a team that is already questionable.

UNC moves into whichever spot Houston doesn’t take and Duke is right behind because voters are too dumb to understand that getting pushed at home by a mediocre GT team isn’t good.
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If you have Houston in your Top 5, you lose a bunch of credibility.
 
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I want to speak #1 into existence, and it should bet that way, but I wouldn't be surprised with 2. Remember when we got blasted by Seton Hall but didn't drop? We lost 218 points, which kept us at #5 but put us really close to 6

Purdue is 231 points above us right now. They got blasted by Nebraska, and Nebraska is higher Kenpom and NET than Seton Hall. They might have enough of a cushion to keep them above us

UCF beating Kansas also moved them to #75 NET, which makes that a Q1 loss. But they have less of a cushion (146 points ahead of us) and they are the worst of the 3 teams that beat Purdue/Kansas/UConn
 
Katz has us at #1. Link. Does he get a vote?

BTW, can anyone explain the NET rankings? (Particularly how Alabama and it's 2-5 Q1 record are so high.) It honestly seems like they reward good losses more than wins.
 
lonsharkin51 said:
Katz has us at #1. Link. Does he get a vote?

BTW, can anyone explain the NET rankings? (Particularly how Alabama and it's 2-5 Q1 record are so high.) It honestly seems like they reward good losses more than wins.
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it's a pseudo-efficiency metric....so it doesn't consider wins/losses very much. Moreso margin and quality of opponent.
 
Parrish still has at #2 (link), but at least he has some nice things to say about Danny and what the team is doing without DC.
 
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yungdowork said:
The main reason we didn't move is because a bunch of teams that had a chance to pass us (Marquette, Creighton, Oklahoma, Baylor, Arizona, etc) also lost that week, and 3-loss Tennessee still came very close to passing us up. I'm not trying to take away anything from Purdue, they've been great and made the most of a tough out of conference schedule for sure.

It'll be interesting to see how much that 3-day stretch in November says about Purdue come tournament time. I don't think they're gonna have a ton of problems in their conference.
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Purdue has 2 tough road games this week IU and Iowa. If UConn sweeps this week they are definitely #1 team
 
yungdowork said:
Purdue has beat some good teams, and definitely has a claim to being the #1 team in the country, but I think a 16 point in-conference loss should affect your ranking. They're a 2 loss team, it's not like they're head and shoulders above anyone
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Yeah Gonzaga and Texas are hurting us for now. UNC certainly helping.
 
lonsharkin51 said:
Katz has us at #1. Link. Does he get a vote?

BTW, can anyone explain the NET rankings? (Particularly how Alabama and it's 2-5 Q1 record are so high.) It honestly seems like they reward good losses more than wins.
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Sometimes they do. We dropped in NET after yesterday's win because we were favored by 20 and we "only" won by 13. That stuff matters for the numbers

Steamrolling bad teams helps the ratings a lot. Alabama won a lot of their early games by 30-40+, and 3 of their 5 losses are Purdue (NET 3), Creighton (13), Arizona (2)

I think this is why UConn schedules OOC the way that they do. Demolish the horrible teams to build up margin of victory, win (or lose closely) to power opponents, and don't schedule anyone in between that has a chance of making it close

NET rankings are also pretty unreliable (imo) until the middle of conference play when it gets a chance to normalize. They're fun to look at and use for AP ranking justification, but there will be a lot of movement over the next 6 weeks
 
BigTenFan said:
Purdue has 2 tough road games this week IU and Iowa. If UConn sweeps this week they are definitely #1 team
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If we beat Creighton without Clingan I'll be very surprised—but also very happy.

We should be #1 regardless. I guess we'll find out.
 
What’s taking so long? A couple of voters who didn’t watch any games hurrying to submit their polls late
 
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