When is a blow to the Head not a foul?

[cockhrnleghrn]

The only way that happens is if the NCAA takes over officiating, removing it from the hands of the Conferences' "Head of Officials."
They'd then have to create a fully funded body across D1/2/3 that supervised, trained, recruited, evaluated, assigned, paid, insured, etc. etc.

I thought in basketball it was handled by the NCAA. In football, it's handled by the conferences.

 

[oldhusky]

OK on a humorous note, I remember a long long time ago reporters were interviewing John Havlichek after a Celtics game and he had a big black eye. The reporter asked how come a foul wasn't called when he got that, and Havlichek said I guess I fouled his elbow with my eye!

 

[reelfan]

When it's a UCONN player getting hit.

 

[ThisJustIn]

I thought in basketball it was handled by the NCAA. In football, it's handled by the conferences.

My understanding (and I haven't done a deep dive for a few years) is that everything up to the NCAA tourney (where officials are picked via recommendations from coaches/conferences via post-game reports - I think) everything is conference based.

Top conference pay top dollar and have the burgers (though, I recall Barb Jacobs said she had to pay refs AND her salary out of her budget).
They pay fee, travel, house, per diem (likely). The lead ref fills out an end of game report, DVDs (i'm old) of the game are shared and reviewed. Coordinator is onsite to eval and/or hires someone to eval game.

Re rules/points of emphasis: That's decided by the NCAA rules committee. A DVD/updated rules is sent to each team and they must review and sign off. The Coordinator might attend an NCAA led "Coordinators mtg" to review the new rules/points of emphasis. They're responsible for enforcing them (and refs are responsible for knowing them).

Coordinators can organize professional developments.. but that means paying refs/travel/housing/food/space etc. (Unless they're using zoom now?) as refs are independent contractors.

Super old articles I wrote:

MAKING THE CALLS: The World of Referees

COACHES AND OFFICIALS: Reaching Across the Divide – A look at the relationship between officials and coaches and the impact on recruiting efforts

EARNING THEIR STRIPES: Officials in Training

OFFICIATING UNDER REVIEW: Coaches, Conferences and the NCAA Working to Collaborate

 

[MSGRET]

I agree with your clarification. The issue is any foul called using video results in free throws where a common foul only does if the team is in the bonus or the player was shooting. Replay to me in all sports seems like more problems than solutions so let them play and give each team a couple challenges a game to use. That way the flow isn't dictated by officials.

This year there is no stoppage of play just to look at a replay. Replay will only be looked at when there is an actual stoppage of play, i.e. free throws, an injury has occurred, or either team or TV time outs.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

IMHO one big problem with the refs is usually the conference supervisor of the refs is usually an ex-ref who worked with the present refs and is friends with them!
It's tough to discipline your friends!
The answer is hire an outside ex-ref to be the supervisor!

 

[ThisJustIn]

IMHO one big problem with the refs is usually the conference supervisor of the refs is usually an ex-ref who worked with the present refs and is friends with them!
It's tough to discipline your friends!
The answer is hire an outside ex-ref to be the supervisor!

How, exactly, do you expect to do that? The refs cross conferences. If you've been in the game long enough to climb to the top level, you know everyone and everyone knows you. It's a small, tough world.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

How, exactly, do you expect to do that? The refs cross conferences. If you've been in the game long enough to climb to the top level, you know everyone and everyone knows you. It's a small, tough world.

ThisJustin- - Possibly hiring retired NBA refs!

 

[MSGRET]

ThisJustin- - Possibly hiring retired NBA refs!

They would have to change their interpretation of what constitutes a walk in basketball.