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What UMass can teach UConn about life as a football independent (Courant)

Ivys can play anyone - they just don't count for FBS teams' bowl eligibility because they don't offer the required NCAA equivalences. Basically, they Ivy funding model is considered "non-scholly" by the NCAA.

UConn could play Yale or Dartmouth, but neither would count as a win toward bowl eligibility. UConn wins vs. Wagner, CCSU, Lafayette, Holy Cross, etc. do count (1 per season).

The majority of FCS teams that don't count for FBS bowl eligibility are in the Ivy League and Pioneer League (Marist, Dayton, San Diego, etc.)
 
uconnbill said:
No it's not, but you go with that.

UConn is still in a major conference for other sports and the connection with NYC sets UConn apart.
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This is a football board and commentary on UConn’s football future.
 
You could always try to set up h/h with duke or NC tell offer a B-ball series with them to get the fball deal done. Ratings would be nice for s UConn vs duke or NC maybe even at the garden. Just a far fetched out the box idea
 
Have a H&H with Duke in 2023 & 24....doubt they schedule two H&Hs in the 2020's.

Alsi already have an H&H with NC State in 2022 & 2023.
 
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Drew said:
This is a football board and commentary on UConn’s football future.
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And the future is much brighter than UMass' football future. We are recognized as a P5 opponent by the B1G. UMass is not. We have a much more marketable name (even in football) than UMass. We have two basketball teams that people want to play, and can use those as leverage, unlike UMass. Our football will likely be broadcast on SNY, unlike UMass.
 
Roughly a third of Wake Forest’s student body is from NE/NY/NJ/PA. I’ve proposed this before, and as a Wake parent I have some ulterior motives, but I think a football H/H with the Deacs would be mutually beneficial. Adding a basketball scheduling arrangement would be a home run for both.
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HuskyHawk said:
We are recognized as a P5 opponent by the B1G. UMass is not.
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I’m interested to see if that “recognition” continues as an Independent football program on the go forward - my gut tells me it won’t.
 
HuskyHawk said:
And the future is much brighter than UMass' football future. We are recognized as a P5 opponent by the B1G. UMass is not. We have a much more marketable name (even in football) than UMass. We have two basketball teams that people want to play, and can use those as leverage, unlike UMass. Our football will likely be broadcast on SNY, unlike UMass.
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The UConnBlog produced a podcast yesterday that is worth a listen. It spells multiple reasons why UConn is closer to BYU than UMass, namely SNY and the brand, as you say above.

One of the contributors (Dan Madigan, IIRC) said while nothing earth shattering came from media day and granted UConn wants to move all applicable sports to the Big East sooner rather than later, the longer nothing is leaked regarding football, the more likely it is that UConn will have a football home in the AAC for 2020.
 
huskymedic said:
I’m interested to see if that “recognition” continues as an Independent football program on the go forward - my gut tells me it won’t.
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Thank you. The recognition had more to do with the fact that Illinois and Indiana already had us on the schedule and full OOC schedules for those years, plus our AAC affiliation, than it did the actual UConn program.

It’s not an insult to say UConn is going to be like UMass in the future. Nobody in Florida cares if your games are on SNY, your parents aren’t watching it down there anyways. The makeup of the future schedule and lack of bowl affiliations will most likely reflect something closer to UMass than BYU, who has a national title and a deal with ESPN that will pay them more than UConn’s with SNY. And people can say “but we booked home and homes with Illinois”! Well 1 that was with the conference affiliation and 2 UMass has home and homes with Mizzou and a couple other impressive teams too.
 
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Drew said:
Thank you. The recognition had more to do with the fact that Illinois and Indiana already had us on the schedule and full OOC schedules for those years, plus our AAC affiliation, than it did the actual UConn program.

It’s not an insult to say UConn is going to be like UMass in the future. Nobody in Florida cares if your games are on SNY, your parents aren’t watching it down there anyways. The makeup of the future schedule and lack of bowl affiliations will most likely reflect something closer to UMass than BYU, who has a national title and a deal with ESPN that will pay them more than UConn’s with SNY. And people can say “but we booked home and homes with Illinois”! Well 1 that was with the conference affiliation and 2 UMass has home and homes with Mizzou and a couple other impressive teams too.
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It is an insult. We are in better shape than that. Clearly so.

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huskymedic said:
I’m interested to see if that “recognition” continues as an Independent football program on the go forward - my gut tells me it won’t.
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As long as Big10 teams continue to schedule us for home/home OOC games, I think the distinction will hold.

It's way less about what UConn can/will offer, but more about accommodating the scheduling preferences and granting flexibility to their current members.
 
UMass does NOT have two (2) huge financial burdens that UConn does: (1) coaching salaries & (2) stadium rentals!
 
Former RC said:
UMass does NOT have two (2) huge financial burdens that UConn does: (1) coaching salaries & (2) stadium rentals!
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Actually, the biggest difference between the two schools' athletic budgets is with administrative costs.
 
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