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Message: [QUOTE="Jetskies, post: 4851730, member: 12253"] i think we're saying variations of the same thing, though we disagree on the standard to which an 18-24 year old MAN (not child) must be held. I think the players need to be held accountable to commitments, since in principle that's what happens to u when you're an adult. Likewise, the commitment needs to exist from the university as well, in ways in mentioned in my original post + other ways that knowledgeable folks like you are pointing out. someone else here said that the more formal this gets, though, is when the pressure to turn them into salaried, w-2 wielding employees becomes too great, which ultimately will create a CFB players union, which will unleash another wave of hell not seen before. Maybe this nonsense is better than that nonsense. It's probaby true that the NCAA has thought out all the permutations and decided this nonsense is most convenient to them. It just sucks to be on the UConn side of the nonsense, watching the P4 dance around while our linebackers and running backs crash into each other week 1, then throw in the towel in week 3. btw my panties feel great :) [/QUOTE]