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I remember thinking how well UConn was executing their offensive early in the season. They seem to be lacking energy and often creativity on offense since they came back after finals.

Are they banged up? Are some suffering from the flu? Have teams begun to exploit their weaknesses?

Whatever it is, I hope they fix it. The product they've been putting on the court the past free weeks has not been very entertaining.
 
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Nice of you to chime in CTBasketball. I'm sure you didn't get a chance at the other 25 threads discussing the same thing.
 

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I remember thinking how well UConn was executing their offensive early in the season. They seem to be lacking energy and often creativity on offense since they came back after finals.

Are they banged up? Are some suffering from the flu? Have teams begun to exploit their weaknesses?

Whatever it is, I hope they fix it. The product they've been putting on the court the past free weeks has not been very entertaining.
Simply, lack of trust. Early on, the UConn players played loose and shared the ball freely. Some of this was undoubtably because the competition was not as strong/couldn't apply great ball pressure etc. But now our guards think twice and three times before passing the ball to several of our players. Good reason for this, because those players have frequently fumbled it and blown opportunities. However, without that trust, our offense has degenerated into largely one-on-one plays by Bazz or Boat, with some singular one-the-ball screens mixed in. Currently, quite sluggish and painful to watch (although Bazz and Boat both have the talent to make spectacular plays, in the long run it is not winning basketball. Bazz and Boats' knee problems have contributed no doubt, but mostly from the perspective that their one-on-one abilities are less effective.

Regardless of how cringe-worthy AB has looked by not catching entry passes or miss-timing his jump and turning an easy dunk into a turnover or a foul and only 1 out of two FTs, or PN making a ridiculous 720 degree spin and throwing up a low percentage shot or TO getting the ball 15 feet from the basket against Harvard in the first half, attempting to back down his man then throwing up a 12 foot near-air ball instead of passing it out and keeping the ball moving, the bigs still need to be part of the offensive flow. We cannot afford to have Bazz or Boat dribble in place for 20 seconds and then try to make a play.
 
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Simply, lack of trust. Early on, the UConn players played loose and shared the ball freely. Some of this was undoubtably because the competition was not as strong/couldn't apply great ball pressure etc. But now our guards think twice and three times before passing the ball to several of our players. Good reason for this, because those players have frequently fumbled it and blown opportunities. However, without that trust, our offense has degenerated into largely one-on-one plays by Bazz or Boat, with some singular one-the-ball screens mixed in. Currently, quite sluggish and painful to watch (although Bazz and Boat both have the talent to make spectacular plays, in the long run it is not winning basketball. Bazz and Boats' knee problems have contributed no doubt, but mostly from the perspective that their one-on-one abilities are less effective.

Regardless of how cringe-worthy AB has looked by not catching entry passes or miss-timing his jump and turning an easy dunk into a turnover or a foul and only 1 out of two FTs, or PN making a ridiculous 720 degree spin and throwing up a low percentage shot or TO getting the ball 15 feet from the basket against Harvard in the first half, attempting to back down his man then throwing up a 12 foot near-air ball instead of passing it out and keeping the ball moving, the bigs still need to be part of the offensive flow. We cannot afford to have Bazz or Boat dribble in place for 20 seconds and then try to make a play.

While a lack of trust is certainly an issue, we don't really run anything. Every time down the court it's a couple of ball screens and that's essentially it. No one is running the baseline, there's little to no off the ball screening, it's a ball handler w/ a screen left/right, and 3 guys watching. It's what you do at the park w/ people you've never played with. The coaches have simplified the offense to nothing and we look absolutely hideous.
 
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While a lack of trust is certainly an issue, we don't really run anything. Every time down the court it's a couple of ball screens and that's essentially it. No one is running the baseline, there's little to no off the ball screening, it's a ball handler w/ a screen left/right, and 3 guys watching. It's what you do at the park w/ people you've never played with. The coaches have simplified the offense to nothing and we look absolutely hideous.
Precisely. There are no 'plays' as some commentators think. And even when a screen is set high for the ballhandler he has no options when he comes off it. I've never seen the screener roll to the basket or anyone else move.
 
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I think a large part of it is actually defense.

When you give up as many disheartening offensive rebounds/multiple defensive series as we do, it takes a huge toll on offense by draining your energy and enthusiasm. It also leads to depressed offensive statistics because you get very few open-court chances when you are taking the ball out of your own basket or desperately scrambling to get a freaking rebound.

It takes a huge toll. That's why I laugh when people criticize Shabazz's defense. We've seen him be a real pest on that end, but he's got to conserve energy somewhere or else he will just be wasted at the end of the game.
 
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UConn has never been an effective half court team all the way back to the Dom Perno days. A lot of the problem appears to be energy and as bmayuc said defense. Maybe we are playing as hard as we did earlier in the season but it doesn't look like it.
 

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A lot of it also has to do with our lack of a frontcourt. I think Florida gave teams the recipe for disrupting our offense... pressure the guards hard and the offense becomes really stagnant because we don't have a big guy down low who we can throw it to and have him go to work.
 
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Simply, lack of trust. Early on, the UConn players played loose and shared the ball freely. Some of this was undoubtably because the competition was not as strong/couldn't apply great ball pressure etc. But now our guards think twice and three times before passing the ball to several of our players. Good reason for this, because those players have frequently fumbled it and blown opportunities. However, without that trust, our offense has degenerated into largely one-on-one plays by Bazz or Boat, with some singular one-the-ball screens mixed in. Currently, quite sluggish and painful to watch (although Bazz and Boat both have the talent to make spectacular plays, in the long run it is not winning basketball. Bazz and Boats' knee problems have contributed no doubt, but mostly from the perspective that their one-on-one abilities are less effective.

Regardless of how cringe-worthy AB has looked by not catching entry passes or miss-timing his jump and turning an easy dunk into a turnover or a foul and only 1 out of two FTs, or PN making a ridiculous 720 degree spin and throwing up a low percentage shot or TO getting the ball 15 feet from the basket against Harvard in the first half, attempting to back down his man then throwing up a 12 foot near-air ball instead of passing it out and keeping the ball moving, the bigs still need to be part of the offensive flow. We cannot afford to have Bazz or Boat dribble in place for 20 seconds and then try to make a play.
Your reply huskyharry was well thought out and flat out nailed it! It just seems that Bazz, Boat and Daniels feel they have to carry the offense. It's a catch-22 situation though. The fact is those 3 can't carry the load night-in, night-out against the competition they're facing, but on the other hand, they're not going to win if the other players don't execute well. Kromah has been assertive at times, but a lot of his offense comes early before they seem to settle into their dreadful half-court offense. I'm not so sure if Bazz and Boat are looking to run plays for him and Giffey as much as they should.

I really think if they persevere through their progressions where there is a lot more movement, Bazz, Boat, Daniels, Giffey, Kromah and Omar, who looks completely lost lately, will shake free for more good looks. When they run their stuff, they do so slowly and are constantly resetting letting the D set back into solid defensive position. Notice how teams run their stuff against them where they eventually begin to scramble, trying to recover into solid defensive position. There's no reason why our talent can't do the same. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they need to get all 50 toes constantly moving on offense for a full 35 or until they create a good shot for someone.

IMO, if this team wants to be able to execute at a high level come tournament time, they're going to have to get more players involved in the offense. They need much quicker and timely off-the-ball player movement and must move the ball via the pass more quickly. They are pounding the ball way too much. I'm okay with an offense where our best handlers break their defender off the dribble, but 40 minutes of that is not only ineffective it's simply tough to watch.

I haven't lost hope with this group, but KO needs to be willing to lose a few games along the way by letting the team get back to the player & ball movement we saw earlier in the season so that they'll be playing their best ball come March. Of course you run the risk of not making the tournament if they drop too many games, but I don't think that will happen. I think they'll likely win about the same amount of games if KO gets them to commit to getting everyone involved compared to doing what they have been doing the past few weeks.

Oh, it would help if they can learn to execute the fast break better. They seem to blow at least 3 to 5 odd number breaks each game, with selfish play, sloppy handling or poor passing. I think we all expect more from this team. They are more capable than what they've been showing lately.
 
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UConn has never been an effective half court team all the way back to the Dom Perno days. A lot of the problem appears to be energy and as bmayuc said defense. Maybe we are playing as hard as we did earlier in the season but it doesn't look like it.
I keep on hearing this, but I remember being pleasantly surprised at how well they were executing before they left for finals. It seems a combination of tougher competition (though we did face a few tough teams during the first 3rd of the season), lack of execution, lack of effort, lack of trust and a lack of confidence. Other than lacking heft and some skill in the post, this team is more talented than what they're showing lately.
 
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I think a large part of it is actually defense.

When you give up as many disheartening offensive rebounds/multiple defensive series as we do, it takes a huge toll on offense by draining your energy and enthusiasm. It also leads to depressed offensive statistics because you get very few open-court chances when you are taking the ball out of your own basket or desperately scrambling to get a freaking rebound.

It takes a huge toll. That's why I laugh when people criticize Shabazz's defense. We've seen him be a real pest on that end, but he's got to conserve energy somewhere or else he will just be wasted at the end of the game.
I'm not sure if their lack of defensive rebounding is that big of a factor on our half-court offense, but it sure doesn't help. I keep on seeing Huskies simply turn and stand there while the ball is in the air. Either KO and the staff aren't coaching them enough or properly to box-out or the players simply aren't doing what they're taught in practice. I think it's time...or probably way past the time...where KO needs to keep the players accountable for not boxing out. If a player gets beat to a ball they should get to, KO needs to pull their ass back to the bench to send a message and then throw them back out there the next whistle till they get it. It's not just the bigs. Other than Bazz, no one is really doing a good job boxing out. Each man needs to body up someone as soon as the ball goes up. You don't just turn around and see what happens. You don't just collapse toward the basket. If each guy works hard to get their body between an opponent and the basket, they're going to either get to more rebounds or force more over-the-top fouls.

It's a complete head-scratcher how this group of players doesn't seem to understand that the difference between them winning and losing some of these games rides on their ability to rebound the ball and limit their opponents second chances. I'd hate to see the stats on how many more shots our opponent has taken our Huskies have the past two seasons.
 
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Precisely. There are no 'plays' as some commentators think. And even when a screen is set high for the ballhandler he has no options when he comes off it. I've never seen the screener roll to the basket or anyone else move.
I'm not sure I agree with this. They set a lot of high screens but the problem is they're not very effective and when the screener is one of our bigs, our guards don't have a lot of confidence that the screener will not turn it over if they pass it to them. Teams seem to focus on swalling up Bazz and Boat on these screens and not worry so much about the screener. They need to do a lot more than running a high screen, reset, try another high screen, etc. They need to run an offense to has progressions where they're not simply screen for the handler, but screening for players who will be receiving a pass, ready to either shoot it, drive it to the basket, or quickly get it to another teammate that will get the D moving around and hopefully getting out of position resulting in offensive advantage that leads to good scoring opportunities. The one screen then reset crap we're seeing is flat out ugly and ineffective lately.
 
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