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WestCoastHusky said:
You line up a coach before the last game. You tell the coach to hang on until January 1st. You fire Diaco on Jan 2nd and announce the new coach on Jan 3rd. We will save $1.5m if we fire him on January 1st or 2nd.

We need the interview process now. This is a disaster that's not going to get better anytime soon.
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No one takes that deal and no way you keep the search quiet until January. Flip side is no hires will happen until December anywhere. It is the January trigger that is the problem.
 
The Viking said:
I believe it has been written as such.

Which is why if he is fired, it will be after 1/1 IMO because 1.5 mil is the next coaches salary perhaps. Let Diaco play the year out. You'd look crazier than Diaco's red pants if you can him now because we still have a shot at a bowl game (not saying we're gonna make it).

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By the way, is this strength coach we have overrated? Has he been Diaco'd (i.e. he's talked about like he's a 10 but in reality he's a 4 or 5)? Can't say I'm wonderfully impressed with our offensive line unless in reality they aren't being taught well.
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I think the lines are plenty strong and well conditioned. A little slow personnel and scheme-wise on D and except for the injuries look better to me on offense. It's the plan and the coaching and lack of a special talent at QB who can make up for it.
 
JSM1970 said:
We're quickly learning Benedict is lost and incompetent
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The deal was essentially done before he got here...

Benedict Makes Statement With Diaco Extension

>>Benedict didn't need to extend Diaco, even though Bob had received some interest from other schools. Mike Anthony of the Hartford Courant reports that Warde Manuel began contract extension conversations with Diaco in early-December. While Benedict makes it seem like he inherited a nearly done deal, he certainly didn't need to complete it. It was his decision to make, and if he chose not to it wouldn't have been the first time a new athletic director flexed his muscle in the interest of bringing in his own hand-picked coach- especially for what is the most important athletic program with regards to conference realignment.<<

I agree w/ the article that he had the authority per se and could have nixed it but I'm sure he had strong "advise" at the time to get it done and move on. It is now incumbent on him to raise the money if he feels strongly that a change needs to be made after year three.
 
Great, we have him for a few more years. Doesn't mean I need to renew my tickets. Sick of a poor product, and Uconn close to losing a 10 year season ticket holder
 
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Stairmaster said:
He's doing his job and bulking up the kids. The fact that our guys have DI bodies but are lagging in skill development lies on the positional coaches.
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For what it's worth Diaco was on a tear saying how small and weak the linemen were when he got here. Well, year three rushing offense and sacks allowed ranks still in triple digits in the NCAA stats. Meanwhile, Houston didn't have one guy on their line over 300 lbs. Go figure.
 
The incompetance at the top of the university is astounding. We haven't had a decent president and AD in forever!!!!
 
Mods, lock this thread. The man gets next year, and anyone who believes he should be fired right now are clueless. You start axing coaches this new to a program (yes, he still is new by football standards) and no one of quality will consider the UConn job. We'll be considered an amateur outfit who makes knee-jerk decisions and doesn't stick by our staffs.
 
wethyhusky said:
Great, we have him for a few more years. Doesn't mean I need to renew my tickets. Sick of a poor product, and Uconn close to losing a 10 year season ticket holder
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This is the real problem. I missed today's game but will likely renew my tickets, were in danger of losing the long time ticket holders, because people are tired the same old same old. We need better.
 
huskymedic said:
The deal was essentially done before he got here...

Benedict Makes Statement With Diaco Extension

>>Benedict didn't need to extend Diaco, even though Bob had received some interest from other schools. Mike Anthony of the Hartford Courant reports that Warde Manuel began contract extension conversations with Diaco in early-December. While Benedict makes it seem like he inherited a nearly done deal, he certainly didn't need to complete it. It was his decision to make, and if he chose not to it wouldn't have been the first time a new athletic director flexed his muscle in the interest of bringing in his own hand-picked coach- especially for what is the most important athletic program with regards to conference realignment.<<

I agree w/ the article that he had the authority per se and could have nixed it but I'm sure he had strong "advise" at the time to get it done and move on. It is now incumbent on him to raise the money if he feels strongly that a change needs to be made after year three.
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Was Manuel on his way out and negotiating an extension because he felt others were after Diaco? I call headfake!!!
 
wethyhusky said:
Great, we have him for a few more years. Doesn't mean I need to renew my tickets. Sick of a poor product, and Uconn close to losing a 10 year season ticket holder
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I second this emotion
 
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John said:
Mods, lock this thread. The man gets next year, and anyone who believes he should be fired right now are clueless. You start axing coaches this new to a program (yes, he still is new by football standards) and no one of quality will consider the UConn job. We'll be considered an amateur outfit who makes knee-jerk decisions and doesn't stick by our staffs.
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As opposed to admitting a mistake and trying to correct it. There are lots of coaches that would want the facilities and budget Diaco has. There are plenty of coaches that want the chance to succeed. Clueless is thinking the offense scheme will change magically next year. Clueless is thinking Diacos base philosophy of conservative and have a chance in the fourth quarter will change. Clueless is thinking the recruiting Diaco has shown is competeive in the AAC let alone any Moderately successful P5 program.

My original premise stands, what is more expensive, firing or keeping? Amateur is not trying to win.
 
06029 said:
As opposed to admitting a mistake and trying to correct it. There are lots of coaches that would want the facilities and budget Diaco has. There are plenty of coaches that want the chance to succeed. Clueless is thinking the offense scheme will change magically next year. Clueless is thinking Diacos base philosophy of conservative and have a chance in the fourth quarter will change. Clueless is thinking the recruiting Diaco has shown is competeive in ten AAC let alone. Moderately successful P5 program.

My original premise stands, what is more expensive, firing or keeping? Amateur is not trying to win.
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this sounds suspiciously like the "he won't get us to the next level" talk that swirled around Edsall. How'd that work out for us?
 
Isn't Houston supposedly an "amateur gig"? How are they doing?
 
noeynox said:
This is the real problem. I missed today's game but will likely renew my tickets, were in danger of losing the long time ticket holders, because people are tired the same old same old. We need better.
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If you renew and BD is here, how many games are must attend for you? Why pay top dollar for multiple tickets when plenty will be available for the games you actually want to see?

He has sucked the joy out of attending the game out of me. I went from 6 season tickets in 2008 to 4 during PP and right now to sitting alone today. No one wanted to see this game. If I renew, 2 it will be a minor miracle as of today.

That is the risk Uconn is looking at today.
 
John said:
Mods, lock this thread. The man gets next year, and anyone who believes he should be fired right now are clueless. You start axing coaches this new to a program (yes, he still is new by football standards) and no one of quality will consider the UConn job. We'll be considered an amateur outfit who makes knee-jerk decisions and doesn't stick by our staffs.
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Yeah ok Mr Expert - it is likely that HCBD does get next year - only because of the buyout clause
ANY university worth a grain of salt wouldn't give someone with one or two years HC experience an extension like this to start.
I disagree that no one of quality would be interested and don't be asking me to name one because I'm not interested in playing those games but would never say no one.
I am not clueless by any means and I say he should be fired BUT I know it will not happen - the guy has shown that by his coaching decisions he has a high propensity to lose winnable games - if it happens once or twice -OK- but for him its more of a norm
 
gtcam said:
Yeah ok Mr Expert - it is likely that HCBD does get next year - only because of the buyout clause
ANY university worth a grain of salt wouldn't give someone with one or two years HC experience an extension like this to start.
I disagree that no one of quality would be interested and don't be asking me to name one because I'm not interested in playing those games but would never say no one.
I am not clueless by any means and I say he should be fired BUT I know it will not happen - the guy has shown that by his coaching decisions he has a high propensity to lose winnable games - if it happens once or twice -OK- but for him its more of a norm
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Whether he should or should not be employed here can be debated ad infinitum. Regardless, the University cannot fire him now due to the perceptions that the timing would raise, it would mark as as a certain type of athletic department.
 
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John said:
this sounds suspiciously like the "he won't get us to the next level" talk that swirled around Edsall. How'd that work out for us?
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Edsall started a D1 program and deserved time and showed results in year 3. Show 1 area Uconn has improved in the last 2+ seasons.

Flip side, look at the bizarre stuff and horrible losses under BD the last 2+ seasons.

Cut your losses. Show the people that pay money you care.

Or sit tight and lose fans for many years. People that buy tickets and donate money.
 
noeynox said:
I'm the DMV guy. You don't fire Diaco period. You can't keep canning coaches in the middle of year 3. They went bowling last year, he gets year 4.
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You have to look at the quality of product being put on the field. Just in the same way you don't fire a guy for just missing a bowl who has been solid, you don't keep a guy around who has shown little that resembles significant improvement. There is nothing stellar about him in any phase, other than treating kids decently (not to be discounted). His new coaching peers are turning around programs in one and two years. You got to recognize when the cards have been played out, fold and ante up again.
 
I'm very frustrated. Ok, we're stuck in a terrible conference with teams I could care less about. It has been discussed ad naseum. You can't present a passive, boring style of football and think people will want to watch. Attack on defense, throw the ball and try to score points. I can live with that, and would want to keep my seats
 
noeynox said:
I'm the DMV guy. You don't fire Diaco period. You can't keep canning coaches in the middle of year 3. They went bowling last year, he gets year 4.
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In all likelihood that's what will happen. He will at least get the first 6 games of next year. The situation is unlikely to improve, so my interest level will continue to drop until a move is made.
 
Knowing the costs it'll incur on the program long term, I'd actually be surprised if he lasts beyond this season. Or maybe they'll keep him just for the next recruiting class. Which I don't even expect to be great.
 
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gtcam said:
Yeah ok Mr Expert - it is likely that HCBD does get next year - only because of the buyout clause
ANY university worth a grain of salt wouldn't give someone with one or two years HC experience an extension like this to start.
I disagree that no one of quality would be interested and don't be asking me to name one because I'm not interested in playing those games but would never say no one.
I am not clueless by any means and I say he should be fired BUT I know it will not happen - the guy has shown that by his coaching decisions he has a high propensity to lose winnable games - if it happens once or twice -OK- but for him its more of a norm
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I will name names that are available today -
Al Golden
Joe Moorehead
Major Applewhite
Ted Roof

Too much bourbon tells me to stop now
 
06029 said:
No one takes that deal and no way you keep the search quiet until January. Flip side is no hires will happen until December anywhere. It is the January trigger that is the problem.
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If Diaco spent half as much effort on the field on schemes as he did locking in contract wins, we would be a top 20 team. I have cone to despise to the pretty-boy, slime ball.
 
06029 said:
If you renew and BD is here, how many games are must attend for you? Why pay top dollar for multiple tickets when plenty will be available for the games you actually want to see?

He has sucked the joy out of attending the game out of me. I went from 6 season tickets in 2008 to 4 during PP and right now to sitting alone today. No one wanted to see this game. If I renew, 2 it will be a minor miracle as of today.

That is the risk Uconn is looking at today.
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I get it. as the weather gets worse and the losses mount, it gets harder to go. I couldn't find someone to go either. I tried giving tickets away. No takers.

That said we canned P in the middle of the season in year 3. You can't get a rep of a school that does not give coaches a chance. That more than anything why you give this guy year 4.
 
noeynox said:
I get it. as the weather gets worse and the losses mount, it gets harder to go. I couldn't find someone to go either. I tried giving tickets away. No takers.

That said we canned P in the middle of the season in year 3. You can't get a rep of a school that does not give coaches a chance. That more than anything why you give this guy year 4.
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Or you get the reputation as a school that accepts ...eccentricity as a virtue? Making any bowl as a reason for extension? Lack of growth as perfectly fine?

Unfortunately, Diaco will likely be the coach game 1 next year. And season tickets will be near 10,000, stadium will average 50% of capacity and another year will be sacrificed.
 
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