Was in Detroit for the 2004 motor city bowl. there is literally nothing but abandoned buildings outside the sports facilities, did get to see the old tiger stadium that was cool.If you've been there, you understand they have NOTHING else going.
Was in Detroit for the 2004 motor city bowl. there is literally nothing but abandoned buildings outside the sports facilities, did get to see the old tiger stadium that was cool.If you've been there, you understand they have NOTHING else going.
There is a phenomenon amongst cubs fans that i cant chalk up to coincidence. Compared to NY and Red Sox fans: i can see a person with a yankees hat or a Boston hat and if I start talking baseball there is a chance that they aren't really up on the team, or are casual fans, or they are from the area. But with Cubs fans, if i see a cubs shirt, hat, flag, whatever- i can always launch into a specific baseball conversation and I'll always be knowledgeably engaged. This is also true for many small-mid market teams, but for a huge market, cubs fans seem unique in that regard
Boston fans are real real quite when their teams lose. Celtics fans talking a whole lot of trash, and now not saying a word after getting their asses stomped last night.

I don't love it a lot of Knicks fans who experienced the Ewing don't love it, but it's mostly kids who never experienced the Knicks getting to the ECF and they wanna party and get drunk on a Friday night. 7th avenue is always nuts whether the Knicks win or lose.Not gonna lie. I feel the level of celebration for a second round playoff win is a little much in NY. Actually embarrassing.
Not gonna lie. I feel the level of celebration for a second round playoff win is a little much in NY. Actually embarrassing.

My friend in LA just named his new kitten Dodger.@HooperScooper I hear what you're saying. There is a very casual Hollywood fan base. But....
I used to go to about 20 Dodgers games/ year maybe more. When I first started going I thought the fanbase was fickle and not very knowledgeable........ that was until I started to talk to the Latino dodger fanbase. Latino Dodgers fans are of the most intense fan bases in the country and they know their stuff.
The Dodgers and Lakers are legit, although the Dodgers crowd shows up for their sushi in the 6th inning
Lol, no. 13 year resident here. They care about the Niners, Dubs, and Giants. Token fanship for Cal and Stanford. People struggle to understand my UConn addiction.And does the Bay Area really support college athletics to any great degree?
I used to go to Giants games at candlestick and they’d draw under 20,000 when not playing LA and sell it out for LA. Weird experience because capacity was so high. But your 13 years started long after my 3 years ended in late 1999. The Warriors were 19-63 in 1997-98 and averaged 12,000 a game. Nobody cared. Glad to hear times have changed.Lol, no. 13 year resident here. They care about the Niners, Dubs, and Giants. Token fanship for Cal and Stanford. People struggle to understand my UConn addiction.
I fall in between @Matrim55 and @HuskyHawk/@Scottobot's perspective.
Monta Ellis recently shared that the Warriors fans were the best in the NBA, and that was during the pre-Steph years when the Dubs sucked:
"Oracle, man… them people used to — like, we was terrible. Them folks was selling out every night. Like, it was crazy. They sold out every night, man. And that's why like — we was really trying to win for them. Like, we was really trying to win for them," he remarked. "They some loyal fans. I'm talking about loyal fans. Like, I don't even think I can see one time when we was playing bad, and they booed us. Loyal."
That said, I wouldn't put the bay in the same league as Boston or NY.
I remember a quote from Jason Giambi when he was with the Yanks explaining the experience playing in NY versus some amazing Oakland teams. It will never be the same out West. They just don’t have the same level of intensity, culture or generational history. I feel like the Dodgers are the closest thing.Add me to the list of people who have Boston #1. I’m thinking about the question being: what city would be best overall for a sports fan with no real loyalties (not dissimilar to me when I first moved here) to see high level sports and enjoy a city that has good sports presence in bars
Chicago
NY
Denver is underrated
Pittsburgh is cool
Their teams aren’t good yet but you have to love Vegas lol
Baltimore might be becoming slightly underrated as a city but nooooobody is thinking about moving there for anything related to sports. You move there for proximity to DC, to attend or work at UMD, or to work at John’s Hopkins. Camden Yards and Lamar Jackson (for now) on Sundays is a nice bonus.I remember a quote from Jason Giambi when he was with the Yanks explaining the experience playing in NY versus some amazing Oakland teams. It will never be the same out West. They just don’t have the same level of intensity, culture or generational history. I feel like the Dodgers are the closest thing.
With that said, it’s really hard to beat Philly or Boston. NY is diluted across multiple teams per sport and have all the other sources of entrainment. They do it bigger when they win, but not the same sustained fanaticism for losers.
Baltimore is an underrated city.
Wow, didn’t appreciate there were so many of us here in the Bay.Lol, no. 13 year resident here. They care about the Niners, Dubs, and Giants. Token fanship for Cal and Stanford. People struggle to understand my UConn addiction.
I fall in between @Matrim55 and @HuskyHawk/@Scottobot's perspective.
Monta Ellis recently shared that the Warriors fans were the best in the NBA, and that was during the pre-Steph years when the Dubs sucked:
"Oracle, man… them people used to — like, we was terrible. Them folks was selling out every night. Like, it was crazy. They sold out every night, man. And that's why like — we was really trying to win for them. Like, we was really trying to win for them," he remarked. "They some loyal fans. I'm talking about loyal fans. Like, I don't even think I can see one time when we was playing bad, and they booed us. Loyal."
That said, I wouldn't put the bay in the same league as Boston or NY.
From near death, but a pulse has recently been detected. Obviously far from thriving, but a wee bit of economic activity in the last decade, neighborhood renovations/restorations, a new Detroit-Windsor Ontario bridge, etc versus total absolute blight, ripping down unused buildings and homes, etc. Massively long way to go, but some positive activity surprising to some who may recall Detroit circa Motor City Bowl 2005.If you've been there, you understand they have NOTHING else going.
It's improved tremendously. My buddy lived there when they didn't even have the lights on. He worked at the auto plant building cars and then would drive home in the dark because there were no city lights and no stop lights in the city. After working in St. Louis he's happy to be returning home to Detroit, something he never thought would happen.If you've been there, you understand they have NOTHING else going.
It's improved tremendously. My buddy lived there when they didn't even have the lights on. He worked at the auto plant building cars and then would drive home in the dark because there were no city lights and no stop lights in the city. After working in St. Louis he's happy to be returning home to Detroit, something he never thought would happen.
Do they even have Friday night HS football in NY and LA?
One of the top 3 auto races of the day!Indianapolis next Sunday for the 500
I don't follow HS football here, and you're probably right that LA's best teams would probably beat the best teams from Western PA, but where do you think Aaron Donald came from?I get that you're making a point here but yes they do. There are a handful of high school football teams in LA that would beat the best team in PA by 90.
I don't follow HS football here, and you're probably right that LA's best teams would probably beat the best teams from Western PA, but where do you think Aaron Donald came from?
I have no idea who's good right now, but it would be a fun exercise to put together an all-time all-star HS team from the LA Metro vs one from Western PA. I think we beat you in QBs and DBs at least.
Historically speaking I’d say New York, Philadelphia, or St Louis. With Washington and Chicago not too fat behind.Who cares if we discussed it before. Times change.
What defines great is up to you.
Fan engagement?
# of titles?
How much revenue each team gets?
Tradition?
Best live viewing experience?
Have at it.