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How does timing of the Quadrants work? I thought it was based on latest standings but the site linked has the SH loss as Q1 and the SH win as Q2.
What are the quad wins?
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How does timing of the Quadrants work? I thought it was based on latest standings but the site linked has the SH loss as Q1 and the SH win as Q2.
Location matters.
- Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75.
- Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135.
- Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240.
- Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353.
Notable results:
- Marquette losing drops them from 30 to 33, crossing the top 30 threshold. Bad result.
- Creighton winning moved them up to 62. Considering their difficult schedule remaining, they shouldn't be penalized much for losses, so they seem very likely to stick below 75. Since we have a home loss to them, we really need them to stick below 75, so that was a very good result.
Update
Xavier #25 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home win Q1.
Providence #28 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1.
Marquette #32 - Climb into top 30. Keeps our home win Q1.
Seton Hall #36 - Climb into top 30.. Adds a Q1 win.
VCU #57 - Climb into top 50. Adds a Q1 win.
St. John's #68 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road win Q1.
Creighton #64 - Stay top 75. Would make our potential road win Q1 and keep our home loss Q2.
West Virginia #74 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road loss Q1. DANGER ZONE!!.
St. Bonaventure #84 - Stay top 100. Keeps our neutral win Q2.
Butler #126 - Stay top 135. Keeps our road win Q2.
Lots of action yesterday, so update needed.
Xavier #26 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home win Q1. - Down 1.
Providence #28 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1. --
Marquette #34 - Climb into top 30. Keeps our home win Q1. - Down 2.
Seton Hall #37 - Climb into top 30.. Adds a Q1 win. - Down 1
VCU #57 - Climb into top 50. Adds a Q1 win. --
St. John's #71 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road win Q1. - Down 3
Creighton #59 - Stay top 75. Would make our potential road win Q1 and keep our home loss Q2. - Up 5.
West Virginia #75 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road loss Q1. DANGER ZONE!!. - Down 1
St. Bonaventure #84 - Stay top 100. Keeps our neutral win Q2. --
Butler #127 - Stay top 135. Keeps our road win Q2. - Down 1
Will probably remove Creighton from future updates as they now appear safe. They were the only team of the ones we're watching to move in the right direction. Somehow Butler and Seton Hall played each other and both fell in the ranks lol. Xavier holding onto top 30 status despite losing 5 of 6 games.
Xavier #35 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. - Fell out of top 30. Will be tough to get back in. Down 10.
Providence #25 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1. - Up 3
Marquette #36 - Climb into top 30. Adds a win Q1. - Down 2.
Seton Hall #32 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. - Up 6
VCU #54 - Climb into top 50. Adds a Q1 win. - Up 3.
St. John's #73 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road win Q1. - DANGER ZONE!! Down 2.
Creighton #67 - Stay top 75. Would make our potential road win Q1 and keep our home loss Q2. - Down 8.
West Virginia #74 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road loss Q1. - DANGER ZONE!!. Up 1
St. Bonaventure #81 - Stay top 100. Keeps our neutral win Q2. - Up 3.
Butler #125 - Stay top 135. Keeps our road win Q2. - Up 1.
Not a great day yesterday. Xavier cost us a Q1 win. St. John's has moved closer to the edge and plays Xavier soon. Creighton looked hapless without their PG. There's a world in which John's, Creighton, and WVU fall out of top 75 and none of our the teams in the 30s climbs above.
Seton Hall and VCU got a bit closer. The only brightside of the day was that Seton Hall looked pretty good, so they could get top 30.
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Not really concerned about teams we've lost to. Of our wins:
Xavier is in freefall. Marquette isn't getting back in the top 30. Seton Hall has a chance, but looking like all 3 of those will fail to get back into Q1 territory (except for our road win @ Marquette).
VCU, who knows.
St. John's would be pretty disappointing. Creighton hopefully can stick in the top 75 even after we beat them.
Bonnies and Butler should be fine.
This highlights how important it was to beat Villanova. Aside from Auburn, we had no other signature wins.
Xavier is in freefall. Marquette isn't getting back in the top 30. Seton Hall has a chance, but looking like all 3 of those will fail to get back into Q1 territory (except for our road win @ Marquette).
VCU, who knows.
St. John's would be pretty disappointing. Creighton hopefully can stick in the top 75 even after we beat them.
Bonnies and Butler should be fine.
This highlights how important it was to beat Villanova. Aside from Auburn, we had no other signature wins.
Some significant movement yesterday (rank changes from last post, not yesterday's ranks):
Xavier #36 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. - Down 1
Providence #25 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1. --
Marquette #34 - Climb into top 30. Adds a win Q1. - Up 2.
Seton Hall #33 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. - Down 1
VCU #49 - Stay top 50. Keeps our neutral win Q1 win. - Jumped into the top 50 yesterday with win over St. Bonaventure! Up 5.
St. John's #74 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road win Q1. - DANGER ZONE!! Down 1.
Creighton #66 - Stay top 75. Would make our potential road win Q1 and keep our home loss Q2. - Up 1.
West Virginia #78 - Climb top 75. Makes our road loss Q1 - West Virginia lost 7 in a row, all to top 60 teams. Our loss is now Q2. Down 4.
St. Bonaventure #84 - Stay top 100. Keeps our neutral win Q2. - Down 3.
Butler #125 - Stay top 135. Keeps our road win Q2. --
So we had 1 game change from Q1 loss to Q2 loss and a win change from Q2 to Q1. Overall it's a net positive change, as our Q2 record is still great and the committee seems to put more emphasis on Q1 wins than anything. We're now 5-5 Q1 and 7-2 Q2.
Xavier #37 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. - Down 1
Providence #24 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1. - Up 1.
Marquette #36 - Climb into top 30. Adds a win Q1. - Down 2.
Seton Hall #33 - Climb into top 30. Adds a Q1 win. --
VCU #49 - Stay top 50. Keeps our neutral win Q1 win. --
St. John's #72 - Stay top 75. Keeps our road win Q1. - Up 2.
West Virginia #80 - Climb top 75. Makes our road loss Q1 - Down 2.
Butler #125 - Stay top 135. Keeps our road win Q2. --
Need to root for Seton Hall, VCU, and St. John's for NET reasons. Other teams are unlikely to shift at this point.
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12-8 combined Q1+Q2. Not GREAT, but very very good. I’ll admit to having been concerned about our resume last year and harboring no such concerns this season.
For context, that’s more Q1+Q2 wins than Gonzaga, Duke and Kentucky (Zags have 10, the two evil empires have 11). Villanova has 13. Baylor and Kansas have an absurd 17 and 16 respectively. Some other teams we’re competing against for the 4 line that we have more Q1+Q2 wins than: UCLA (9), Texas/Ohio State (10), Arkansas (11).
Obviously this is just one way of looking at it, but this last month has been gigantic for shoring up our resume.
For context, that’s more Q1+Q2 wins than Gonzaga, Duke and Kentucky (Zags have 10, the two evil empires have 11). Villanova has 13. Baylor and Kansas have an absurd 17 and 16 respectively. Some other teams we’re competing against for the 4 line that we have more Q1+Q2 wins than: UCLA (9), Texas/Ohio State (10), Arkansas (11).
Obviously this is just one way of looking at it, but this last month has been gigantic for shoring up our resume.
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Q1/2 win % would be more interesting than just comparing raw # of Q1/2 wins vs other programs.
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We aren't going to get a 4 seed over any of those teams unless we win the BET or they get knocked out 1st round of theirs. We will be a 5 seed and I'll take that. Trending up!!!
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While I tend to agree, we’re still ahead of Texas and Ohio State on the Bracketmatrix s-curve as of today. Ranked as the second 5-seed behind Houston, 18th overall.
With so much left to still be decided due to the conference tourneys (and because I’m hopelessly optimistic), I’d hazard against making any absolute declarations. Getting to the 4-line is crucial.
Ceteris paribus I’d be stunned to see Texas or Ohio State ahead of us on Selection Sunday.
Change is from my last post, not yesterday.
Still playing
Providence #26 - Stay top 30. Keeps our home loss Q1. - Down 2.
VCU #51 - Climb into top 50. Adds a neutral Q1 win. - Down 2.
Done
Xavier #40 - Down 3. Regular season done. Staying Q2 home win.
Marquette #42 - Down 6. Regular season done. Staying Q2 home win.
Seton Hall #36 - Down 3. Regular season done. Staying Q2 home win.
St. John's #66 - Up 6. Road win is Q1.
West Virginia #78 - Up 2. Regular season done. Very likely staying Q2 road loss.
Butler #120 - Up 5. Regular season done. Road win staying Q2.
Need to root hard for VCU. 8:30pm tonight.
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Last night's game is also a slam dunk Q1 win, since neutral site opponents just need to be top 50.
VCU basically the only opponent with a chance to change tiers.
VCU basically the only opponent with a chance to change tiers.