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How does this conference stuff affect anything? Play a top ten schedule, win most of your games, kick ass in the tourney. Do that and it doesn't affect recruiting or post season. We remain a national power.
 
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it affects revenue, our former big east rivals will be earning close to 20 million a year just by conference affiliation while the huskies will be lucky to see 3 million. theres that saying that goes " the rich gets richer" it's just a matter of time before the big conferences kick the NCAA to the curve. If this happens would they want to schedule UConn?and risk losing to a mid major from the weak NCAA?... I really really hope UConn has a plan
 
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During the last 15 years Uconn has won the BE title 5 times. No one else more than 2.
 
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dante is correct, it affects the money that the school will be getting. Lose the Big East and you lose the tv contract. I don't know what SNY pays UConn for the men's basketball contract but the women's contract is like $1.5 million. Rutgers is going to be getting $20 million - 30 million just for being a member of the Big Ten. UConn is already behind in the facility arms race; struggling to raise enough money to build a practice facility when schools like Kentucky just throw them and other specialized basketball buildings up like its nothing. Not only that but they can afford to give new coaches 4 year contract worth millions a year and fire them if they don't work out (Gillespie). UConn seems afraid of having to absorb the cost of Ollie's contract should he not pan out.
 

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dante is correct, it affects the money that the school will be getting. Lose the Big East and you lose the tv contract. I don't know what SNY pays UConn for the men's basketball contract but the women's contract is like $1.5 million. Rutgers is going to be getting $20 million - 30 million just for being a member of the Big Ten. UConn is already behind in the facility arms race; struggling to raise enough money to build a practice facility when schools like Kentucky just throw them and other specialized basketball buildings up like its nothing. Not only that but they can afford to give new coaches 4 year contract worth millions a year and fire them if they don't work out (Gillespie). UConn seems afraid of having to absorb the cost of Ollie's contract should he not pan out.
A public school in a state run by a spend first socialist agenda is going to have money problems vs the private schools like syracuse etc.
 
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A public school in a state run by a spend first socialist agenda is going to have money problems vs the private schools like syracuse etc.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/...ketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/

This list scares the out of me. Look at all of the money the other schools are making. In case you're wondering where UConn basketball is on that list, it is listed #123. The football program is a few spots lower and basically broke even. The list is a year old but I can't imagine things have changed that much.

I'm not blaming UConn for the financial state of the programs. Of course they aren't going to generate the amount of money that Texas does. My point is just that if UConn doesn't get into one of these conferences the gap is going to get even wider...and that's bad.
 

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How does this conference stuff affect anything? Play a top ten schedule, win most of your games, kick ass in the tourney. Do that and it doesn't affect recruiting or post season. We remain a national power.

Do this while recruiting who? Players too stupid to not care about the level of competition they play against?

It's a fantasy that UConn could be a power playing in any league that would have them right now.
 
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http://businessofcollegesports.com/...ketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/

This list scares the out of me. Look at all of the money the other schools are making. In case you're wondering where UConn basketball is on that list, it is listed #123. The football program is a few spots lower and basically broke even. The list is a year old but I can't imagine things have changed that much.

I'm not blaming UConn for the financial state of the programs. Of course they aren't going to generate the amount of money that Texas does. My point is just that if UConn doesn't get into one of these conferences the gap is going to get even wider...and that's bad.

That list is total bulls*it. UConn makes a lot more than every team in the conference.
 
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Do this while recruiting who? Players too stupid to not care about the level of competition they play against?

It's a ****ing fantasy that UConn could be a power playing in any league that would have them right now.

Did you read the post your replied to? Uconn can still play a top ten schedule. Basketball offers many, many opportunities for marquis match ups outside of conferences. And of course there is the tourney. That is still most important next to sending players to the NBA. Which we will also continue to do.

Cry elsewhere, this program is not going away and that isn't a fantasy.
 

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Did you read the post your replied to? Uconn can still play a top ten schedule. Basketball offers many, many opportunities for marquis match ups outside of conferences. And of course there is the tourney. That is still most important next to sending players to the NBA. Which we will also continue to do.

Cry elsewhere, this program is not going away and that isn't a fantasy.

Yes, I read the post and it's useless. You can't play a top 10 schedule without being in a top conference. It's a mathmatical impossibility.

Your solution to staying a national power seems to be win a lot of games and be a national power. Insightful - why doesn't everyone just try that? I've got news for you - message board warriors don't win games. Unless the situation is rectified the idea that UConn basketball can stay at the level it has been for the last 20 years is as much a fantasy as the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
 
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Yes, I read the post and it's useless. You can't play a top 10 schedule without being in a top conference. It's a mathmatical impossibility.

Your solution to staying a national power seems to be win a lot of games and be a national power. Insightful - why doesn't everyone just try that? I've got news for you - message board warriors don't win games. Unless the situation is rectified the idea that UConn basketball can stay at the level it has been for the last 20 years is as much a fantasy as the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.

What a whining baby.

You sound like the Courant editorial from years gone by that said we should leave the BE because we would never be able to compete with Georgetown or Villanova.

I already told you why you are wrong. You disagree. We'll see who's right.

BTW, how did Butler make consecutive final fours? How did UNLV do it for years in a crappy conference. Even Temple under Chaney and UMess under Calipari build a national powers right in our own backyard. And we have tremendous advantages over all those schools. Explain that to me.
 
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Unlv and UMass did it by cheating. Temple took advantage if a HOF coach and fertile local recruiting. JC ain't walking through that door. UCONN needs a dance partner
 

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What a whining baby.

You sound like the Courant editorial from years gone by that said we should leave the BE because we would never be able to compete with Georgetown or Villanova.

I already told you why you are wrong. You disagree. We'll see who's right.

BTW, how did Butler make consecutive final fours? How did UNLV do it for years in a crappy conference. Even Temple under Chaney and UMess under Calipari build a national powers right in our own backyard. And we have tremendous advantages over all those schools. Explain that to me.

You are in denial. The landscape has changed. If dealing with reality is being a baby - not sure I see the connection but ok guy.
 
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You are in denial. The landscape has changed. If dealing with reality is being a baby - not sure I see the connection but ok guy.

We'll see.

UConn was a strong regional power before the BE.
It is even stronger now with or without the conference.
Our schedule will be very good whether you believe it or not.
Our facilities will be the equal of any in the nation.
We are in the middle of one of the best basketball recruiting areas in the country.
Our fan base is large and it ain't going away.
We will still be followed by a large and active media contingent.
And we have made four final fours in the last 13 years and have hung three national championships banner.
And if anyone cares, academically we're one of the finest public universities in the nation.

Who would you rather be? Stop crying.
 
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A public school in a state run by a spend first socialist agenda is going to have money problems vs the private schools like syracuse etc.

Syracuse better start spending some of that soon, because as UConn skyrockets in the academic rankings by spending more money, Cuse is getting kicked out of the AAU and dropping like a rock in the USNWR. In case you didn't notice, Cuse's academic cohort Boston U. was just added to the AAU.
 
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http://businessofcollegesports.com/...ketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/

This list scares the out of me. Look at all of the money the other schools are making. In case you're wondering where UConn basketball is on that list, it is listed #123. The football program is a few spots lower and basically broke even. The list is a year old but I can't imagine things have changed that much.

I'm not blaming UConn for the financial state of the programs. Of course they aren't going to generate the amount of money that Texas does. My point is just that if UConn doesn't get into one of these conferences the gap is going to get even wider...and that's bad.

If UConn takes all its licensing revs, donor contributions, student fees, and dumps them into bball revenues or football revenues, it immediately shoots to the top. But the bottom line doesn't change a penny.
 

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If UConn takes all its licensing revs, donor contributions, student fees, and dumps them into bball revenues or football revenues, it immediately shoots to the top. But the bottom line doesn't change a penny.
And are other schools in the list doing this?
 
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And are other schools in the list doing this?

Yes, many of them are.

It's an apples to oranges comparison, especially sport-by-sport, but also AD by AD. Some pay debt service for facilities, some don't. Some include the some total of branding and royalties for the school, others don't. Some include student fees, others don't. and to top it off, some just dump in direct or indirect support.
 
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If UConn takes all its licensing revs, donor contributions, student fees, and dumps them into bball revenues or football revenues, it immediately shoots to the top. But the bottom line doesn't change a penny.

This is just another example of poor marketing by UConn. Instead of counting funds in a way that puts them near the top of the list and causes folks to take note, they put themselves on the bottom of the list and look bad. Typical Connecticut.
 
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