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We're Baaack: The Delicious Debate Resurfaces

The overlooked component of this question: UConn sets an example of what good basketball looks like. The usual sense of the question invites folks to conclude that UConn’s greatness is anti-competitive. Whether this has ever been true, they have always set a standard worth emulating.
 
Bone Dog said:
The overlooked component of this question: UConn sets an example of what good basketball looks like. The usual sense of the question invites folks to conclude that UConn’s greatness is anti-competitive. Whether this has ever been true, they have always set a standard worth emulating.
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One on line talk show was forcefully making the point this AM that UConns raising the bar has measureably raised up many teams.
 
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What a waste of podcast. It's lazy, and jumping on a stupid debate from the last time UConn was supremely dominant. First of all, last season even tho UConn romped thru the NCAA's for the most part (down 4 to Oklahoma at the half and a 14'ish point win over Juju-less USC), they lost games during the regular season, including the mess vs. Tennessee (which launched our romp thru the rest of the season).

Second, this year we only beat Michigan by 3 even tho we were at full health (ie. had Blanca even tho she only played 8 minutes). Add to that this season, 3 other teams in the top 25 with only 1 loss.

UCLA's 1 loss was to Texas.
SC's losses were to Texas, and shockingly, Oklahoma
Texas' losses were to SC and LSU

Third, UConn has yet to face Texas, SC, or UCLA (or LSU or Vandy).

And finally, why do people continue to pump the "is it bad for basketball"? Were the Celtics bad for basketball back in the day? is UNC women's soccer bad for soccer? How about UCLA's men's hoops dynasty back in the day? I could go on and on. BTW...

Modern Dynasties (Since 2000)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (NFL, 2018–Present): With Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they have appeared in multiple Super Bowls (winning 3 as of early 2024) and reached 6 consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Golden State Warriors (NBA, 2015–2022): Won 4 championships in 6 Finals appearances, setting the record for best regular-season record (73-9).
  • Alabama Crimson Tide (NCAA Football, 2009–2023): Nick Saban’s teams won 6 national championships during this period.
  • UConn Huskies (NCAA Women's Basketball, 2000–2016): Secured 11 national titles, including a streak of four consecutive championships (2013-2016).
Is there any discussion out there about those other teams being bad for their sport? Dynasties never last forever. UConn should be celebrated. Look at how good WCBB has become. SOME of that is due to UConn raising the bar.
 
I have never understood WHY being good at what you do is bad for some one else. THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE GAME, TO BE BETTER THAN THE OTHER TEAM AND WIN, which Uconn does VERY WELL. It should be up to the other Coaches or Athletic Directors to grow and compete with Uconn. Geno has said he will not DUMB down and ease up, let them catch up. I haven't been rooting for the Huskies as long as many posters, but, since 2013 I have been having a BLAST watching the Huskies win, win, and win. Uconn set's the standard and then maintains it. GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!
 
EricSD said:
What a waste of podcast. It's lazy, and jumping on a stupid debate from the last time UConn was supremely dominant. First of all, last season even tho UConn romped thru the NCAA's for the most part (down 4 to Oklahoma at the half and a 14'ish point win over Juju-less USC), they lost games during the regular season, including the mess vs. Tennessee (which launched our romp thru the rest of the season).

Second, this year we only beat Michigan by 3 even tho we were at full health (ie. had Blanca even tho she only played 8 minutes). Add to that this season, 3 other teams in the top 25 with only 1 loss.

UCLA's 1 loss was to Texas.
SC's losses were to Texas, and shockingly, Oklahoma
Texas' losses were to SC and LSU

Third, UConn has yet to face Texas, SC, or UCLA (or LSU or Vandy).

And finally, why do people continue to pump the "is it bad for basketball"? Were the Celtics bad for basketball back in the day? is UNC women's soccer bad for soccer? How about UCLA's men's hoops dynasty back in the day? I could go on and on. BTW...

Modern Dynasties (Since 2000)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (NFL, 2018–Present): With Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they have appeared in multiple Super Bowls (winning 3 as of early 2024) and reached 6 consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Golden State Warriors (NBA, 2015–2022): Won 4 championships in 6 Finals appearances, setting the record for best regular-season record (73-9).
  • Alabama Crimson Tide (NCAA Football, 2009–2023): Nick Saban’s teams won 6 national championships during this period.
  • UConn Huskies (NCAA Women's Basketball, 2000–2016): Secured 11 national titles, including a streak of four consecutive championships (2013-2016).
Is there any discussion out there about those other teams being bad for their sport? Dynasties never last forever. UConn should be celebrated. Look at how good WCBB has become. SOME of that is due to UConn raising the bar.
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Dynasties don't last forever is right. Whatever the future may hold for the UConn wbb program they will be one in a line of programs that raised the bar. Old Dominion, Louisiana Tech, Tennessee all did their share also. Hopefully we can be the big dog for many years to come.
 
I love this topic! Let the other teams read it and start to doubt if anyone can beat us. We will always be everyone's superbowl. But there is a difference between playing in your superbowl and thinking you can win and going in full of doubt.
 
Next 12 said:
I have never understood WHY being good at what you do is bad for some one else.
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You've hit the nail on the head -- it's not just basketball. I've always thought I look better and work harder when I 'm surrounded by people who are better than me. My colleague's success is my success, and hopefully, vice-versa. But there are always people who think that the light shining on someone else is bad period. I never liked working with those people, or even seeing someone else have to work with them.
 
Bone Dog said:
The overlooked component of this question: UConn sets an example of what good basketball looks like. The usual sense of the question invites folks to conclude that UConn’s greatness is anti-competitive. Whether this has ever been true, they have always set a standard worth emulating.
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Booyah!
 
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EricSD said:
What a waste of podcast. It's lazy, and jumping on a stupid debate from the last time UConn was supremely dominant. First of all, last season even tho UConn romped thru the NCAA's for the most part (down 4 to Oklahoma at the half and a 14'ish point win over Juju-less USC), they lost games during the regular season, including the mess vs. Tennessee (which launched our romp thru the rest of the season).

Second, this year we only beat Michigan by 3 even tho we were at full health (ie. had Blanca even tho she only played 8 minutes). Add to that this season, 3 other teams in the top 25 with only 1 loss.

UCLA's 1 loss was to Texas.
SC's losses were to Texas, and shockingly, Oklahoma
Texas' losses were to SC and LSU

Third, UConn has yet to face Texas, SC, or UCLA (or LSU or Vandy).

And finally, why do people continue to pump the "is it bad for basketball"? Were the Celtics bad for basketball back in the day? is UNC women's soccer bad for soccer? How about UCLA's men's hoops dynasty back in the day? I could go on and on. BTW...

Modern Dynasties (Since 2000)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (NFL, 2018–Present): With Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they have appeared in multiple Super Bowls (winning 3 as of early 2024) and reached 6 consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Golden State Warriors (NBA, 2015–2022): Won 4 championships in 6 Finals appearances, setting the record for best regular-season record (73-9).
  • Alabama Crimson Tide (NCAA Football, 2009–2023): Nick Saban’s teams won 6 national championships during this period.
  • UConn Huskies (NCAA Women's Basketball, 2000–2016): Secured 11 national titles, including a streak of four consecutive championships (2013-2016).
Is there any discussion out there about those other teams being bad for their sport? Dynasties never last forever. UConn should be celebrated. Look at how good WCBB has become. SOME of that is due to UConn raising the bar.
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Eric, did you run out of Coffee this week? Good grief. I would love to know which of the high caliber teams you mention refuse to schedule UConn. Geno has made this plain without naming names on any number of occasions. He's got sports networks pushing to schedule these all eyes games, but no they don't happen until the tournament forces them.
 
EricSD said:
What a waste of podcast. It's lazy, and jumping on a stupid debate from the last time UConn was supremely dominant. First of all, last season even tho UConn romped thru the NCAA's for the most part (down 4 to Oklahoma at the half and a 14'ish point win over Juju-less USC), they lost games during the regular season, including the mess vs. Tennessee (which launched our romp thru the rest of the season).

Second, this year we only beat Michigan by 3 even tho we were at full health (ie. had Blanca even tho she only played 8 minutes). Add to that this season, 3 other teams in the top 25 with only 1 loss.

UCLA's 1 loss was to Texas.
SC's losses were to Texas, and shockingly, Oklahoma
Texas' losses were to SC and LSU

Third, UConn has yet to face Texas, SC, or UCLA (or LSU or Vandy).

And finally, why do people continue to pump the "is it bad for basketball"? Were the Celtics bad for basketball back in the day? is UNC women's soccer bad for soccer? How about UCLA's men's hoops dynasty back in the day? I could go on and on. BTW...

Modern Dynasties (Since 2000)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (NFL, 2018–Present): With Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they have appeared in multiple Super Bowls (winning 3 as of early 2024) and reached 6 consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Golden State Warriors (NBA, 2015–2022): Won 4 championships in 6 Finals appearances, setting the record for best regular-season record (73-9).
  • Alabama Crimson Tide (NCAA Football, 2009–2023): Nick Saban’s teams won 6 national championships during this period.
  • UConn Huskies (NCAA Women's Basketball, 2000–2016): Secured 11 national titles, including a streak of four consecutive championships (2013-2016).
Is there any discussion out there about those other teams being bad for their sport? Dynasties never last forever. UConn should be celebrated. Look at how good WCBB has become. SOME of that is due to UConn raising the bar.
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You forgot the Patriots. They appeared in 9 super bowls of which they won 6. The 10 th one is TBD.
 
Are you implying that Geno and CD may have traversed to Henan China to learn ancient training techniques of mind and body in order to transform promising high school basketball talent into top-tier/all-star college basketball players?
 
EricSD said:
What a waste of podcast. It's lazy, and jumping on a stupid debate from the last time UConn was supremely dominant. First of all, last season even tho UConn romped thru the NCAA's for the most part (down 4 to Oklahoma at the half and a 14'ish point win over Juju-less USC), they lost games during the regular season, including the mess vs. Tennessee (which launched our romp thru the rest of the season).

Second, this year we only beat Michigan by 3 even tho we were at full health (ie. had Blanca even tho she only played 8 minutes). Add to that this season, 3 other teams in the top 25 with only 1 loss.

UCLA's 1 loss was to Texas.
SC's losses were to Texas, and shockingly, Oklahoma
Texas' losses were to SC and LSU

Third, UConn has yet to face Texas, SC, or UCLA (or LSU or Vandy).

And finally, why do people continue to pump the "is it bad for basketball"? Were the Celtics bad for basketball back in the day? is UNC women's soccer bad for soccer? How about UCLA's men's hoops dynasty back in the day? I could go on and on. BTW...

Modern Dynasties (Since 2000)
  • Kansas City Chiefs (NFL, 2018–Present): With Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they have appeared in multiple Super Bowls (winning 3 as of early 2024) and reached 6 consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Golden State Warriors (NBA, 2015–2022): Won 4 championships in 6 Finals appearances, setting the record for best regular-season record (73-9).
  • Alabama Crimson Tide (NCAA Football, 2009–2023): Nick Saban’s teams won 6 national championships during this period.
  • UConn Huskies (NCAA Women's Basketball, 2000–2016): Secured 11 national titles, including a streak of four consecutive championships (2013-2016).
Is there any discussion out there about those other teams being bad for their sport? Dynasties never last forever. UConn should be celebrated. Look at how good WCBB has become. SOME of that is due to UConn raising the bar.
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You’re right, it’s just a dumb and somewhat arrogant way for people to verbally beat their chest. BTW, you forgot to mention that the Chiefs are looking up at the longest and most successful run in NFL history. The NE Patriots from 2001-2019 with 6 SB titles and 17 division championships. 😉
 
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Nobody has brought up baseball. This bunch is losing its edge! And women's soccer and softball.
 
Sun Dog said:
My nominee for “bad for the sport” is Penn State Wrestling. 12 national titles in last 14 years of competition (no championship 2020 - COVID) and ranked numero uno again this year. Talk about bad😬.
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Possibly the most dominant was UNC women’s soccer, winning 50% of all national championships, and nine in a row. They had 71 first team All-America’s, which was 44 more than the second place team.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
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I watched this earlier and I had to laugh. If UConn is bad for basketball, we all should be lucky to watch a team that plays the game the right way, be bad for basketball. Unselfishness. Balanced team. Fundamentally sound. Positive bench energy. Great pre-game, halftime (maybe not halftime), but definitely post-game coaching interviews. UConn is a joy to watch and learn from. Great culture and standards. UConn is the Standard and great for WBB basketball.
 
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