Well, we wanted a new OC in the worst way. . . . .

[ruskin]

And it seems we will get one, given the headache-inducing logistics/protocol/chain of command issues hovering with GDL still around in a prominent role.

I was wondering how PP/GDL handled this the last time they ran this shell game back in 2004. Guess what? PP just didn't bother having an official offensive coordinator. But as we know, GDL was in the booth calling plays, even though the AD (Crouthamel) had publicly stripped him of the title of OC, which puts Jake one step of Warde on the transparency scale. Can you say de facto?

So in 2013, unlike 2004, PP and GDL will have a real live person alongside/between them with a title, something neither of them wanted, or, it appears, have ever had in their long run together. The potential soap-opera aspect of this is unsettling, to say the least. Will they work with the guy, listen to him, or, human nature being what it is, resent, undermine, overrule and just plain ignore the young whippersnapper? Dana Holgorsen only had to worry about Bill Stewart (and the Mrs.) at WVU.

Who calls the plays? Who teaches the plays? No offensive coordinator's scheme can work unless the line - and the line coach - is on board, never mind the head coach. The demoted line coach is supposed to help the new hire succeed? I've seen colleagues and friends in similar real-life work situations and the result is rarely pretty.

I hope the new OC has/ had a good talk with Warde and has a good agent/attorney to spell out to the letter what his responsibilities are. I like the part in the job description about the no-huddle offense. I highly doubt PP wrote it. And I hope the OC gets paid $1 more than GDL, if for nothing else for appearance's sake.

Oh and by the way this might be the best description of the PP/GDL offense that was written last fall. Now there is a little sliver of hope the offense will move into the 21st century - as long as the guys from the early 20th don't undermine it.

 

[huskymedic]

Just let it play out dude. All this insufferable handwringing and fretting isn't going change things is it?

We're doomed... Just doomed (but no more, or no less than yesterday).

 

[UConnDan97]

The demoted line coach is supposed to help the new hire succeed? I've seen colleagues and friends in similar real-life work situations and the result is rarely pretty.

Yeah, because most people try to spite a perfect stranger knowing that it will get their best friend fired....of course he's going to try to help the new hire succeed!!!

Come on, everyone. Let's get real here. GDL did a bad job at OC, whether it was calling the wrong plays, teaching the schemes the wrong way, or both. But he's a UConn grad and I have no doubt in my mind....I repeat....NO DOUBT in my mind that he wants UConn to succeed. Even if you don't believe that, you better believe that he wants Pasqualoni to succeed...

 

[ruskin]

Just let it play out dude. All this insufferable handwringing and fretting isn't going change things is it?

We're doomed... Just doomed (but no more, or no less than yesterday).

Uh, it's not "handwringing". It's pointing out it's a far from optimal work structure/environment that those of us who have worked in offices or in team situations know has little chance of success.

Let me ask you this: would YOU take a job under these circumstances? I was actually getting excited about Weist. I hope this setup doesn't make him - or other qualified candidates - think twice. My fear is the best candidates will take a pass on this one because of all the issues listed above.

 

[Dann]

Yeah, because most people try to spite a perfect stranger knowing that it will get their best friend fired....of course he's going to try to help the new hire succeed!!!

Come on, everyone. Let's get real here. GDL did a bad job at OC, whether it was calling the wrong plays, teaching the schemes the wrong way, or both. But he's a UConn grad and I have no doubt in my mind....I repeat....NO DOUBT in my mind that he wants UConn to succeed. Even if you don't believe that, you better believe that he wants Pasqualoni to succeed...

syracuse planted them on us and are paying them to destroy our football program. its part of the cuse plan. blow up uconn football becuase they competition wise grew up and ate us quick. then we will market nyc as ours even tho we are hours upon hours away. then we will get a acc invite and bc will help us do so without uconn. we can destroy that school! i can see the board meeting up there right now... hey i got another one, u know that fat guy at buffalo that everyone thinks is great becuase he fixed academics but he actually is a fball player at michigan who was a rtard and never got a real education? yes his name is warde. lets recomend him to uconn and make things even worse down there.

 

[ruskin]

Yeah, because most people try to spite a perfect stranger knowing that it will get their best friend fired....of course he's going to try to help the new hire succeed!!!

Come on, everyone. Let's get real here. GDL did a bad job at OC, whether it was calling the wrong plays, teaching the schemes the wrong way, or both. But he's a UConn grad and I have no doubt in my mind....I repeat....NO DOUBT in my mind that he wants UConn to succeed. Even if you don't believe that, you better believe that he wants Pasqualoni to succeed...

Dan, I truly hope you're right. If GDL goes all-in on an up-tempo, take chances 21st century offense and does everything to help and nothing to hurt, more power to him. But it's an old dog/new tricks situation. Old habits die hard.

 

[UConnDan97]

syracuse planted them on us and are paying them to destroy our football program. its part of the cuse plan. blow up uconn football becuase they competition wise grew up and ate us quick. then we will market nyc as ours even tho we are hours upon hours away. then we will get a acc invite and bc will help us do so without uconn. we can destroy that school! i can see the board meeting up there right now... hey i got another one, u know that fat guy at buffalo that everyone thinks is great becuase he fixed academics but he actually is a fball player at michigan who was a r and never got a real education? yes his name is warde. lets recomend him to uconn and make things even worse down there.

Syracuse is getting ready for a #downtick. Morrone leaves for the Buffalo Bills (hah!) and I'm hearing rumblings about them losing key recruits. We will still destroy that school, my friend....

 

[UConnDan97]

Dan, I truly hope you're right. If GDL goes all-in on an up-tempo, take chances 21st century offense and does everything to help and nothing to hurt, more power to him. But it's an old dog/new tricks situation. Old habits die hard.

I understand that old habits die hard, no doubt about it. But don't you think that he and PP have already had multiple "sit-downs" prior to the position being advertised? Don't you think that they've already discussed the fact that the new guy is going to need the freedom to put his stamp on things? Let me put it another way; GDL had to do what another OC told him to do when he was a TE coach for three years for the Miami Dolphins, so I'm sure he's capable of doing the same thing now only three years later...

 

[Dann]

Syracuse is getting ready for a #downtick. Morrone leaves for the Buffalo Bills (hah!) and I'm hearing rumblings about them losing key recruits. We will still destroy that school, my friend....

cuse will lose some recuits yea but they will also get some late. they will have a ugly class but nothing brutal. small but some solid prospects like the eca kid. the guy taking over will put a staff together and take flight. he will win right away or within the 1st two years i think. all your coaches trying to get somewhere., he will hustle his ass off. then that staff will all leave and cuse will be bc north with lax.

 

[UConnDan97]

cuse will lose some recuits yea but they will also get some late. they will have a ugly class but nothing brutal. small but some solid prospects like the eca kid. the guy taking over will put a staff together and take flight. he will win right away or within the 1st two years i think. all your coaches trying to get somewhere., he will hustle his ass off. then that staff will all leave and cuse will be bc north with lax.

With the loss of Nassib, Lemon, Pugh, and Shamarko Thomas, I think you are underestimating how quickly the #downtick is about to happen for them...

(EDIT: Meant the offensive lineman. I think Provo has been gone for a year already)

 

[huskymedic]

Uh, it's not "handwringing". It's pointing out it's a far from optimal work structure/environment that those of us who have worked in offices or in team situations know has little chance of success.

Let me ask you this: would YOU take a job under these circumstances? I was actually getting excited about Weist. I hope this setup doesn't make him - or other qualified candidates - think twice. My fear is the best candidates will take a pass on this one because of all the issues listed above.

I've had jobs under those circumstances. Agree that It's not optimal but professionals make it work. Any coach coming in knows dang well what they are getting into. Many will accept the challenge because that is how they are built.

I actually think UConnDan97 brings in valid points regarding mutually beneficial outcomes.

Change is good even if at this time it's not compete change.

 

[Dann]

With the loss of Nassib, Lemon, and Provo, I think you are underestimating how quickly the #downtick is about to happen for them...

then have a leon kinnard type kid on the bench. if he stays, this board is going to have one hell of a fall thinking about what could have been here.

 

[metsfan2323]

It seems unlikely that Weist would take this job if he wasn't guaranteed freedom to install his own system. I'm looking forward to the press conference, hopefully the proper questions will be asked about GDL's future input on offense and how much system change we can expect, until then i'm taking this as great news.

 

[metsfan2323]

then have a leon kinnard type kid on the bench. if he stays, this board is going to have one hell of a fall thinking about what could have been here.

Leon Kinnard? We're going to have Whitmer and Cochran in a heated battle for the starting role and you're going to be thinking about what might have been if Leon Kinnard were are QB?

 

[Dann]

Leon Kinnard? We're going to have Whitmer and Cochran in a heated battle for the starting role and you're going to be thinking about what might have been if Leon Kinnard were are QB?

i would love to see a raise of hands who would have wanted LK to play P's 1st year instead of trick shot mchgee. u can't tell me that things would have been a bit different? we would have known about P and GDl's time travel to 1980 a bit sooner.
then when whitmer comes in its a healthy competition. maybe whitmer could have used a soph year on the bench behind someone instea dof getting gang raped every game thats to gdls playcalling.

casey is a good kid and good player. but being honest, he is not the savior some of u think he is. he has a incredible fball brain because his dad built that into him. its gives him a edge, but his actual abilities ar enot on par with other qbs. he has a nice arm that with the weight room could be good. he is not cam newton and he will not pass whitmer. i suspect by the time whitmer is gone or passed, the answer at qb will not start with a C.

 

[metsfan2323]

i would love to see a raise of hands who would have wanted LK to play P's 1st year instead of trick shot mchgee. u can't tell me that things would have been a bit different? we would have known about P and GDl's time travel to 1980 a bit sooner.
then when whitmer comes in its a healthy competition. maybe whitmer could have used a soph year on the bench behind someone instea dof getting gang raped every game thats to gdls playcalling.

casey is a good kid and good player. but being honest, he is not the savior some of u think he is. he has a incredible fball brain because his dad built that into him. its gives him a edge, but his actual abilities ar enot on par with other qbs. he has a nice arm that with the weight room could be good. he is not cam newton and he will not pass whitmer. i suspect by the time whitmer is gone or passed, the answer at qb will not start with a C.

You're turning into the Football boards version of Freescooter. You might as well start hating on Ollie and complete your turn to the dark side.

 

[Dann]

You're turning into the Football boards version of Freescooter. You might as well start hating on Ollie and complete your turn to the dark side.

i love that man, i would take a bullet for him and the good of uconn.

 

[Uconnalliance]

This guy will be the only one to survive the Micheal Corleone slaughter next Jan 1.be on the look out for the senior van at the Rent.

 

[BlueDogs]

Look it is what it is. Lets be pleased half a correct step was taken. In the same token, it shows Warde has zero sack and again took the nonleadership route. He should have made it clear to P that his boyfriend is out, and that P can leave with him if he has a problem with that.

 

[jackl]

syracuse planted them on us and are paying them to destroy our football program. its part of the cuse plan. blow up uconn football becuase they competition wise grew up and ate us quick. then we will market nyc as ours even tho we are hours upon hours away. then we will get a acc invite and bc will help us do so without uconn. we can destroy that school! i can see the board meeting up there right now... hey i got another one, u know that fat guy at buffalo that everyone thinks is great becuase he fixed academics but he actually is a fball player at michigan who was a r and never got a real education? yes his name is warde. lets recomend him to uconn and make things even worse down there.

Never looked at it this way, JH must have a paper trail right to "Cuse" to crap on UCONN.
Their plan worked too well.

 

[CTHUSKY74]

I agree with the sentiments expressed above. I don't feel entirely comfortable with GDL just shifting roles but I think if PP does not let this new OC do the job and lets GDL interfere or just not support the work of the OC he will be writing his own pink slip. He needs both guys to succeed in installing a competent offense and they will need to work together to succeed. My question is what happens with Foley? Is he the next to bail out with GDL no longer in the booth? I was hoping he would get the Oline back. It's also clear that Warde doesn't see this situation as broken beyond repair. He thinks it can be improved with work and talent. I don't totally agree but I do think a competent OC can make a world of difference for us.

 

[Nostical]

FWIW, I emailed Manuel back in December labeling it as a cautionary tale. I included articles written during PP's tenure at Syracuse which analyzed their AD's admonitions for PP to "make changes" in order to stay on as HC--- especially with GDL and how it all sounded eerily like what Warde was now advocating. He said he was aware of the past happenings. Let's hope so.

 

[FDNY99]

FWIW, I emailed Manuel back in December labeling it as a cautionary tale. I included articles written during PP's tenure at Syracuse which analyzed their AD's admonitions for PP to "make changes" in order to stay on as HC--- especially with GDL and how it all sounded eerily like what Warde was now advocating. He said he was aware of the past happenings. Let's hope so.

Nos I have a feeling that P not totally cutting ties to GDL may end up being his Waterloo with Manuel...no way he gets another contract here even if he does make it past next season!

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Some people just don't do de facto, but it's definitely important for others to seek out new sources for complaints.



"Every man dies. Not every man really lives." – William Wallace, Braveheart

 

[ZooCougar]

This guy will be the only one to survive the Micheal Corleone slaughter next Jan 1.be on the look out for the senior van at the Rent.

Amen.