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NC St hanging around with Duke at halftime. 33-30 Duke

Filipowski has barely played because of foul trouble
 
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Root for Texas to lose tonight. Helps BE bubble.
 
navery12 said:


This clown is doubling down on his ridiculous Indiana is more talented than UConn take. That should be a fireable offense when your job is basketball analyst
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He explained it on a podcast where when he said “talent” what he really meant was something more like NBA-level athleticism, which makes even less sense
 
REB1094 said:
He explained it on a podcast where when he said “talent” what he really meant was something more like NBA-level athleticism, which makes even less sense
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I was about to post the same thing. Dauster jumped in and said “what Jeff meant was physically talented (athleticism)” and Goodman went along with it. I don’t think that is what Jeff meant and if he did, it’s silly to reduce a guy like Cam Spencer, who is exceptionally talented but not “physically talented.” Now more than ever, shooting is the top talent. But I appreciate these guys filling a niche with their near-nightly recaps and if you spend 20 hours a week talking hoops publicly, you are going to say some dumb stuff. Better to own it, but whatever.
 
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runner11 said:
I was about to post the same thing. Dauster jumped in and said “what Jeff meant was physically talented (athleticism)” and Goodman went along with it. I don’t think that is what Jeff meant and if he did, it’s silly to reduce a guy like Cam Spencer, who is exceptionally talented but not “physically talented.” Now more than ever, shooting is the top talent. But I appreciate these guys filling a niche with their near-nightly recaps and if you spend 20 hours a week talking hoops publicly, you are going to say some dumb stuff. Better to own it, but whatever.
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Yeah, I listen to the Field of 68 somewhat frequently and Goodman actually says a lot of really good stuff. He knows his business, but occasionally comes out with a really really bad take lol
 
runner11 said:
I was about to post the same thing. Dauster jumped in and said “what Jeff meant was physically talented (athleticism)” and Goodman went along with it. I don’t think that is what Jeff meant and if he did, it’s silly to reduce a guy like Cam Spencer, who is exceptionally talented but not “physically talented.” Now more than ever, shooting is the top talent. But I appreciate these guys filling a niche with their near-nightly recaps and if you spend 20 hours a week talking hoops publicly, you are going to say some dumb stuff. Better to own it, but whatever.
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People piled on him, but that's the point he was trying to make. If you reduce the players to physical attributes and "pedigree", Indiana is on par or above UConn without Castle. Ware is 5* physical freak with a jumper. Mgbako is a 5* physical freak with a jumper. Malik Reneau has nice size and fluid athleticism and was a top 30 recruit. Kaleb Banks is a top 100 6'8" soph. Xavier Johnson is a 6th year who has been a major conference starter all 6 years. Trey Galloway doesn't move the needle much.

UConn without Castle is 2 veteran guards on the Xavier Johnson level of talent, a top ~60 huge center on NBA radar who is on par with Ware, Alex Karaban is a top 100 6'8" soph similar pedigree to Banks, and Solo Ball started that game and he's a top 50 freshman so < Mgbako from a talent perspective. You take Reneau over Spencer or Newton from a talent/pedigree perspective, but you take the other over Galloway. At the very least it's close on paper if you only consider physical attributes and pedigree. But it's not on paper and Xavier Johnson and Galloway suck, Banks has not developed into anything, Reneau is anachronistic, Mgbanko doesn't know how to play basketball and is just a collection of tools, and Ware is soft.

The point he was making is that Indiana has not done the player or human being development or scheming necessary to make their guys real basketball players or fit together. He's an Indiana fan who is not on board with the current regime and is contrasting what Dan Hurley has been able to do with his talent and what Woodson has been unable to do. It's a compliment to UConn and a drag on Indiana.
 
auror said:
People piled on him, but that's the point he was trying to make. If you reduce the players to physical attributes and "pedigree", Indiana is on par or above UConn without Castle. Ware is 5* physical freak with a jumper. Mgbako is a 5* physical freak with a jumper. Malik Reneau has nice size and fluid athleticism and was a top 30 recruit. Kaleb Banks is a top 100 6'8" soph. Xavier Johnson is a 6th year who has been a major conference starter all 6 years. Trey Galloway doesn't move the needle much.

UConn without Castle is 2 veteran guards on the Xavier Johnson level of talent, a top ~60 huge center on NBA radar who is on par with Ware, Alex Karaban is a top 100 6'8" soph similar pedigree to Banks, and Solo Ball started that game and he's a top 50 freshman so < Mgbako from a talent perspective. You take Reneau over Spencer or Newton from a talent/pedigree perspective, but you take the other over Galloway. At the very least it's close on paper if you only consider physical attributes and pedigree. But it's not on paper and Xavier Johnson and Galloway suck, Banks has not developed into anything, Reneau is anachronistic, Mgbanko doesn't know how to play basketball and is just a collection of tools, and Ware is soft.

The point he was making is that Indiana has not done the player or human being development or scheming necessary to make their guys real basketball players or fit together. He's an Indiana fan who is not on board with the current regime and is contrasting what Dan Hurley has been able to do with his talent and what Woodson has been unable to do. It's a compliment to UConn and a drag on Indiana.
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You could've made that a lot shorter by just saying he's stupid.

Why is Goodman an Indiana fan? He went to Arizona and grew up in Massachusetts, he sure seems like a Zona fan.
 
REB1094 said:
Yeah, I listen to the Field of 68 somewhat frequently and Goodman actually says a lot of really good stuff. He knows his business, but occasionally comes out with a really really bad take lol
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Agreed. My most controversial take is that Goodman is actually good. Mostly. He can be a troll and is certainly a but I listen to Field of 68 regularly and he is locked in and the best part of the show. He is not the guy annointing and then writing off UK every other episode.
 
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runner11 said:
Agreed. My most controversial take is that Goodman is actually good. Mostly. He can be a troll and is certainly a but I listen to Field of 68 regularly and he is locked in and the best part of the show. He is not the guy annointing and then writing off UK every other episode.
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That's a hell of a take. Terrence Oglesby is a million times better than him.
 
I find Goodman to be obnoxious on Field of 68, always talking over the other guys and being condescending
 
The game I’m looking forward to the most today is actually Syracuse @ Clemson

Syracuse does not have a tournament resume. Not even close. Miserable Q1 record, 4-2 in Q2, and a bad Q3 loss. They’re an NIT team

BUT. They’ll get the media hype of being an ACC team with a big name. And tonight could give them 21 wins. Most of those 21 would be against bad teams (hence the bad rankings in all of the metrics), but the selection committee will give them an undeserved look if they win tonight and maybe an ACCT game
 
superjohn said:
That's a hell of a take. Terrence Oglesby is a million times better than him.
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I find TOs judgement to be very clouded by his ACC ties. He is easily a better hang. But I think Goodman has the best read on CBB and is the least swayed by his emotions. My post had do.uch.ebag deleted so it’s fair to say I don’t think he is a great hang. But right is right.
 
REB1094 said:
The game I’m looking forward to the most today is actually Syracuse @ Clemson

Syracuse does not have a tournament resume. Not even close. Miserable Q1 record, 4-2 in Q2, and a bad Q3 loss. They’re an NIT team

BUT. They’ll get the media hype of being an ACC team with a big name. And tonight could give them 21 wins. Most of those 21 would be against bad teams (hence the bad rankings in all of the metrics), but the selection committee will give them an undeserved look if they win tonight and maybe an ACCT game
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Bracket Matrix has them as the 10th team out. A win tonight and then I believe they have a double bye in the ACCT. If they can reach the championship and knock off Duke or UNC they could find themselves actually on the bubble. I don’t think they would squeak in but too close for comfort. Finish them Clemson.
 
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Illinois can certainly knock off Purdue
Louisville over Va Tech

I want to see which home team will storm the court :D
 
REB1094 said:
The game I’m looking forward to the most today is actually Syracuse @ Clemson

Syracuse does not have a tournament resume. Not even close. Miserable Q1 record, 4-2 in Q2, and a bad Q3 loss. They’re an NIT team

BUT. They’ll get the media hype of being an ACC team with a big name. And tonight could give them 21 wins. Most of those 21 would be against bad teams (hence the bad rankings in all of the metrics), but the selection committee will give them an undeserved look if they win tonight and maybe an ACCT game
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I just looked at tonight’s lineup and I take this back.

Providence @ Georgetown. The game I’m watching is to see if Ed Cooley can knock Providence off the bubble lmao
 
Georgetown defense looks marginally better than usual but they turn it over a ton and really don't run a cohesive offense. This game is ugly so far.
 
Carter is saving himself for Saturday.

I have to give Syracuse some credit: it's pretty impressive that they've won 20 games. Every time I watch them they don't seem to run any discernible offense that doesn't involve contested fadeaways, they're an absolute sieve defensively, and they all seem to hate each other and their coach. All things considered, a pretty remarkable year.
 
REB1094 said:
I just looked at tonight’s lineup and I take this back.

Providence @ Georgetown. The game I’m watching is to see if Ed Cooley can knock Providence off the bubble lmao
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Unfortunately, this game has been on one of my YouTube TV quad boxes because I bet on the 3 games its tied to, and man, both these teams just straight up stink.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Carter is saving himself for Saturday.

I have to give Syracuse some credit: it's pretty impressive that they've won 20 games. Every time I watch them they don't seem to run any discernible offense that doesn't involve contested fadeaways, they're an absolute sieve defensively, and they all seem to hate each other and their coach. All things considered, a pretty remarkable year.
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Quadir Copeland could be a guy for them
 
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