Week of 3/4/24 Other Games

[aceboon]

Reed Sheppard is too good man

 

[auror]

Worth its own thread, but what is the Selection Committee going to do about the NET? It is a computer ranking that was going to be easy to game, and two different leagues, the Big 12 and MWC, have made a mockery of it.

Nothing. They don't look at it for selection, except for putting the other teams on your schedule ordered by it. For that purpose, it's fine.

 

[uconn_jack]

I'll bet the committee puts UK as the 4-seed in the East with us. Any takers?

 

[superjohn]

Reed Sheppard is too good man

Kentucky scares me more than anyone.

 

[auror]

I'll bet the committee puts UK as the 4-seed in the East with us. Any takers?

If they win this one they may end up a 3. And they're closest to Detroit ( and slightly closer to Dallas than Boston, though Kansas and Baylor will want Dallas, too.)

 

[uconn_jack]

If they win this one they may end up a 3. And they're slightly closer to Dallas than Boston, though Kansas and Baylor will want Dallas, too.

Yes, they could end up a 3, I just see the committee putting them as a hot team in our bracket.

 

[superjohn]

Sheppard and Knecht are so friggin good. It's crazy how under the radar Sheppard was pit of high school and then there's Knecht who nobody even looked at.

 

[JungleLobo]

Did not expect our Texas win to look better as the season progressed, or our Kansas loss to look worse as the season progressed.

We’ll always have South Orange.

 

[uconn_jack]

Kentucky scares me more than anyone.

They are starting to concern me too. They are still not a good defensive team, but they've gotten better. If we see them and it's a shoot out, anything could happen.

 

[superjohn]

Knecht is unreal man

 

[aceboon]

Kentucky scares me more than anyone.

They've got alot of offensive options, got two guys who can break you down off the dribble and create for themselves and others, plus another very good shotmaker in Reeves

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Nothing. They don't look at it for selection, except for putting the other teams on your schedule ordered by it. For that purpose, it's fine.

It's not fine. Anyone analyzing teams by records vs Quads is basing their entire analysis on a tool, the NET, that is totally flawed and essentially useless.

I remember one of us pointing out over 4 years ago that the NET was hot garbage, and one us defending it in that same thread.

NET Ranking for Tournament Selection

https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/04/college-basketball-rankings-net-system-explain I can't find a thread discussing this last year, probably because it didn't matter for UConn. After digging in a little, I think I hate this rating, and think the NCAA should have stuck with the RPI, which was...

the-boneyard.com

 

[superjohn]

They've got alot of offensive options, got two guys who can break you down off the dribble and create for themselves and others, plus another very good shotmaker in Reeves

Yep and they're showing they can play defense.

 

[aceboon]

At this point I'm shocked when Sheppard misses a shot, his shotmaking is automatic

 

[REB1094]

Kansas goes down by 30. Woof

 

[jibsey]

Dickinson went out. Separated shoulder?

 

[superjohn]

At this point I'm shocked when Sheppard misses a shot, his shotmaking is automatic

The more I watch him the more I see a future NBA star. Not saying he'll be Curry or Nash but he could pan out and be in their orbit.

 

[auror]

It's not fine. Anyone analyzing teams by records vs Quads is basing their entire analysis on a tool, the NET, that is totally flawed and essentially useless.

The NET is much less flawed than you and all the random ACC stans make it out to be. The Techs, Oklahomas, and TCUs of the world have fallen back down to where you'd expect them to be (around 40).

It's not perfect, but it's serviceable. The committee is certainly able and does disagree with it.

Quads are only one piece of a resume. They're also flawed. The actual resume metrics are the most predictive thing for selection anyways, so people (probably including me when I make my posts) over-index on the quads for selection importance.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Kentucky scares me more than anyone.

Dunno I don’t see it but they are playing better . No structure to their game

 

[Edward Sargent]

Dunno I don’t see it but they are playing better . No structure to their game

Oh and yes Sheppard is very good

 

[REB1094]

Xavier is giving Marquette a run (no Kolek)

Up 46-41 with 17:30 to go

 

[aceboon]

UK not handling the press well late here

 

[Doctor Hoop]

Dickinson went out. Separated shoulder?

Looked like a subluxation, though (less likely) maybe just a muscle strain.

 

[ToolzieFan]

Xavier is giving Marquette a run (no Kolek)

Up 46-41 with 17:30 to go

I really want Marquette to win and secure the 4 seed. I’d much rather have Seton Hall as the 4 and only have to face one of Creighton or Marquette.

 

[Doctor Hoop]

Xavier is giving Marquette a run (no Kolek)

Up 46-41 with 17:30 to go

Tough to win in the conferenice on the road. Let’s not find out tonight.