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Week of 2/5 Other Games

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That was indeed a brutal finish. KState did not want to win but somehow did. That prayer of a scoop layup saved them
 
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aceboon said:
Tang lost Nowell, Johnson, Tomlin, and Massoud from an E8 team, you're not gonna reload in one year at KState, portal or not.
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They do really well in the portal, just mostly with non-fifth year guys. Their top five all started somewhere else and transferred in in the last two years. 6 and 7 are freshmen.
 
caw said:
They were a solid team last year (and probably a bit underseeded) but they lost their two best players and really didn't replace them.



KU is just a different beast at home, and they aren't. They really should have at least two more losses that Phog granted them.
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This is correct. They lost Isiah Wong and Jordan Miller.
 
Are Kansas losses good or bad for us?

They beat us. Does it hurt our NET or Kempom? Or does their loss help our chances of getting a high seed by eliminating a contender? I don't know who to root for anymore.
 
Palatine said:
Are Kansas losses good or bad for us?

They beat us. Does it hurt our NET or Kempom? Or does their loss help our chances of getting a high seed by eliminating a contender? I don't know who to root for anymore.
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Over the years I have been conditioned to root for teams we've played out of conference. But this year UConn has been so good I don't think it matters for our seedline
 
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caw said:
They were a solid team last year (and probably a bit underseeded) but they lost their two best players and really didn't replace them.
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This is kind of my point -- Miami, by virtue of overachieving in the Tournament last year, was given undue benefit of the doubt that they would have no problem replacing that production. This often happens to teams that have unexpected runs.

In 2022 UNC almost (and should have) won the championship as an #8 seed. They were given credit for that 6 game run more than they were downgraded for a mediocre performance over 30+ previous games, and assumed that the 6-game run and not the larger body of work would carry over into the following year. Well, look what happened.

Frankly, we this year are the rare exception of a team that unexpectedly dominates, is ranked highly the following year mostly on reputation, and then actually outperforms that ranking.
 
Palatine said:
Are Kansas losses good or bad for us?

They beat us. Does it hurt our NET or Kempom? Or does their loss help our chances of getting a high seed by eliminating a contender? I don't know who to root for anymore.
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I go back and forth on this, but I think at this point Kansas losing is good.

If we had beaten them, I think there'd be more of an argument for wanting them to succeed to boost that quality win (sort of like for UNC). But "quality losses" don't matter quite as much for the subjective resume evaluation, and I think there's more at stake in a head-to-head comparison versus them than in boosting our computer numbers a few tenths of a point by having them win.

Them losing makes it much harder for them to overtake us for a #1 seed. This is the most important thing.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
This is kind of my point -- Miami, by virtue of overachieving in the Tournament last year, was given undue benefit of the doubt that they would have no problem replacing that production. This often happens to teams that have unexpected runs.

In 2022 UNC almost (and should have) won the championship as an #8 seed. They were given credit for that 6 game run more than they were downgraded for a mediocre performance over 30+ previous games, and assumed that the 6-game run and not the larger body of work would carry over into the following year. Well, look what happened.

Frankly, we this year are the rare exception of a team that unexpectedly dominates, is ranked highly the following year mostly on reputation, and then actually outperforms that ranking.
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Credit to the coaching staff for replacing our lost production. Even more credit to them for maintaining the level of intensity in player development and player buy in to get the type of coalescing necessary to accomplish back to back successful seasons.
 
87Xfer said:
Seems like a pretty cool place to watch a game
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Bramlage Coliseum? It's a tough road arena. K-State people are a little nuts.

I didn't get a chance to watch this one, it's probably a good thing.
 
With respect to Kansas losing, if it moves them to the two line and we have to neutral site them in our bracket I believe I we would really enjoy that.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
This is kind of my point -- Miami, by virtue of overachieving in the Tournament last year, was given undue benefit of the doubt that they would have no problem replacing that production. This often happens to teams that have unexpected runs.

In 2022 UNC almost (and should have) won the championship as an #8 seed. They were given credit for that 6 game run more than they were downgraded for a mediocre performance over 30+ previous games, and assumed that the 6-game run and not the larger body of work would carry over into the following year. Well, look what happened.

Frankly, we this year are the rare exception of a team that unexpectedly dominates, is ranked highly the following year mostly on reputation, and then actually outperforms that ranking.
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I was just disagreeing with Miami majorly overachieving. They did outplay their seed, but they were underseeded as a five and should have been a 3 or 4. A final four wasn't a major upset. They were good last year. Their problem this year stems solely from not replacing Wong and Miller. They were over-rated based on their run because they didn't replace a lot of their production.

UNC was not good for most of the year in 2022 and majorly overachieved in the NCAAT as an 8 seed who basically played well for a month. They backslid last year. They were over-rated last year because they were never that good.
 
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This happened on Feb 4, Temple lost to Tulane 92-80 in OT. Outscored 16-4 in OT. This might be the worst season for Temple for hoops and football combined, last in the AAC for both. That AAC is a complete disaster.
 
heffe said:
With respect to Kansas losing, if it moves them to the two line and we have to neutral site them in our bracket I believe I we would really enjoy that.
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Want no part of KU in the tourney. Hoping to avoid them, Houston and Tennessee for as long as possible.
 
Just summarizing Nick Who's performance in last evening's game: 6 mins 0, 2, 0. Their total bench (3 players) performance for 21 mins, 2, 6, 0. Bottom Line: they really have only 5 players who contribute to scoring and rebounding. IMO Not a great recipe for long term success. One serious injury and they are done.
 
Tyler2Rings said:
Many projections have UConn 1 KU 2 in the East. I would be all for a revenge game at full strength. We were so close to getting them in Lawrence
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The boys would surely be licking their chops for a rematch with Floppsy McGee, Johnny Furby, and Nick Zero
 
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