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Message: [QUOTE="Plebe, post: 4838609, member: 6927"] Ha it's really not a new discovery for me; I just politely refrained from naming the culprit. Gottlieb is a very known quantity in this regard. Her Cal teams were pretty much the same way. I commented to my buddy that it reminded me of the Holly Warlick offense of dribble dribble dribble jack and pray and crash the boards. Most teams win with the help of their coach; some teams win despite their coach. Truly amazing that with Beers finally playing a full quarter and Juju leaving for several minutes with another cramp, OSU lost the lead and USC nosed ahead for the win. [/QUOTE]