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Good guys - No movement.

Creighton and Marquette drop.

Welcome back to Providence.

Nova - RV

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Does Seth not realize MSU has 4 other losses? Izzo really has mind control over media to think they deserved to be ranked at 7-5, I guess that's why they consistently give him a pass for these sluggish regular seasons with lineups stocked with top 75-100 guys.
 
I Bleed Blue said:
Wow, Creighton got hammered for a 2pt OT loss.

I consider this a make up ranking for us to stay at #5 as we did not move up back to back weeks after wins vs UNC and Gonzaga. Still the same rank as 12/4 after or loss to Kansas.
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I don't think it's a makeup so much as an acknowledgement that we had a lot of separation between us at #5 and the rest of the field at #6 and below. We no longer do, but we were not going to fall behind those other teams.
 
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I see a lot of people in various places complaining about UConn not dropping. We technically did drop - we lost ~300 points, but we just didn’t fall in the numerical ranking.

Also, what team below us deserves to be above us? I don’t see any that can make a convincing argument. Tennessee has more losses and less quality wins, UK lost at home to UNC-Wilmington, UNC we destroyed on a neutral, FAU lost to Bryant. 5 is a perfectly fair ranking for us. We also still haven’t lost a game as a fully healthy team yet.
 
Still #5 but this time by 26 points in the voting instead of last week's 132. Safe for now!

UNC still top 10 so that remains a great win. Gonzaga still top 15. Texas top 25 (they got dropped 2 spots even though they didn't lose?)

Creighton down 10 spots? WOW

Shoutout Providence! I'll gladly sacrifice Creighton's ranking if it means getting another BE team in there.
 
aburks41 said:
I see a lot of people in various places complaining about UConn not dropping. We technically did drop - we lost ~300 points, but we just didn’t fall in the numerical ranking.

Also, what team below us deserves to be above us? I don’t see any that can make a convincing argument. Tennessee has more losses and less quality wins, UK lost at home to UNC-Wilmington, UNC we destroyed on a neutral, FAU lost to Bryant. 5 is a perfectly fair ranking for us. We also still haven’t lost a game as a fully healthy team yet.
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A team that loses to an unranked team should drop. I'm surprised they didn't drop a few spots.
 
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aburks41 said:
I see a lot of people in various places complaining about UConn not dropping. We technically did drop - we lost ~300 points, but we just didn’t fall in the numerical ranking.

Also, what team below us deserves to be above us? I don’t see any that can make a convincing argument. Tennessee has more losses and less quality wins, UK lost at home to UNC-Wilmington, UNC we destroyed on a neutral, FAU lost to Bryant. 5 is a perfectly fair ranking for us. We also still haven’t lost a game as a fully healthy team yet.
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What are we Duke?
 
Undefeated Houston is ranked #3 but has yet to play a ranked team. Their toughest games were victories over Xavier by 6 and Texas A&M by 4, otherwise they have played a very soft schedule. Their next game is against Penn.
 
temery said:
A team that loses to an unranked team should drop. I'm surprised they didn't drop a few spots.
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We did, we were dropped by a ton of voters. We just had such a huge gap between 5 and 6 it didn't matter
 
I may have said this in previous threads on this but the voters seem to have drastically changed behavior this year.

Basically losing on the road to remotely competent teams are hardly penalized, particularly if it is a one off (see UK, Purdue, UConn and even to certain extents Duke and MSU).

In the past generally if you lost and others won regardless of the who you got passed by and dropped a tier or 2.

This is likely more voters referring to analytical sources as a basis for decision-making to cover the fact they don't watch or likely even attempt to watch many or most teams in contention.

It's nice that losses aren't as painful but annoying in that wins against major opponents don't move the needle as much.

So unless you lose two in a week or the one isn't to DePaul, Louisville, Vanderbilt, Oregon State type deal you are not going to see more than 1-3 spot in movement up or down in a given week.
 
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Tyler2Rings said:
I like the chances of 1 or 2 of those wins appreciating in quality by the end of the season
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More important than rankings is the NET of these teams in terms of our tourney seeding. As of now, we have 2 Quad 1 wins and we will have 9 more opportunities for Quad 1 wins in the BE regular season, as there are 7 teams in the top 75 NET. (Two top 30).
 
SwingDog said:
Undefeated Houston is ranked #3 but has yet to play a ranked team. Their toughest games were victories over Xavier by 6 and Texas A&M by 4, otherwise they have played a very soft schedule. Their next game is against Penn.
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Lunardi just bumped them to a #1 seed as well and moved us to a #2 seed (still in the east) …. joke
 
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pj said:
Without Clingan we're not even a 2 seed. Let him get healthy first, then complain.
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I didn’t complain, but I do thank you for falsely framing my post. I correctly pointed out that it’s a joke that UH has a higher projected seed then us after playing absolutely no one . We played an incredibly difficult schedule without Castle, a hurt Clingan and a hurt Spencer vs Kansas, and are 11-2 with wins against UNC, Gonzaga, Texas and Indiana - all by double digits.
 
treesap32 said:
... one guy had us ranked as low as #12 on his ballot:
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With North Carolina and Gonzaga ranked higher than UConn.
navery12 said:
We did, we were dropped by a ton of voters. We just had such a huge gap between 5 and 6 it didn't matter
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There may be some among them who could now comfortably offer a reason to justify having voted UConn 5 or below in prior weeks.
 
pj said:
Without Clingan we're not even a 2 seed. Let him get healthy first, then complain.
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We've played 1.5 games without Clingan (and the entire season with him clearly not 100%), and you're making that prediction? Duly noted.
 
EROCK CONN said:
I didn’t complain, but I do thank you for falsely framing my post. I correctly pointed out that it’s a joke that UH has a higher projected seed then us after playing absolutely no one . We played an incredibly difficult schedule without Castle, a hurt Clingan and a hurt Spencer vs Kansas, and are 11-2 with wins against UNC, Gonzaga, Texas and Indiana - all by double digits.
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But, Houston is undefeated, and does well on analytical metrics such as Kenpom where it is #1. They haven't played "no one" unless you think UConn playing Seton Hall is playing "no one". Houston beat Texas A&M who is #23 in Kenpom, Utah who is #31, Dayton who is #35, Xavier who is #42. Meanwhile UConn has lost to Seton Hall who is #79.

Obviously the injuries and the Big East refs are major hurdles, so I'm optimistic UConn will beat Houston in the NCAAs, but as of this moment, Houston deserves to be a 1 seed.
 
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