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Week 3 AP Poll posted

Based on Merit, which even after week 3 is still inexact science, #10 North Carolina with #145, #13 LSU with #353 SoS (and there are only 361 schools in D1), #14 Arizona with #213 SoS, #18 Oregon with #141 SoS, #23 Michigan with #276 SoS are 5 schools who should be chastised and embarrassed for their early schedule and SHAME on the voters for rewarding them.

Where's @Plebe and his rant when I need it?
 
DefenseBB said:
Based on Merit, which even after week 3 is still inexact science, #10 North Carolina with #145, #13 LSU with #353 SoS (and there are only 361 schools in D1), #14 Arizona with #213 SoS, #18 Oregon with #141 SoS, #23 Michigan with #276 SoS are 5 schools who should be chastised and embarrassed for their early schedule and SHAME on the voters for rewarding them.

Where's @Plebe and his rant when I need it?
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While Creighton has a SOS of 6, Marquette is 30, and Villanova is 41. In this weeks rankings Creighton is ranked 16th in the AP and 15th in the Coaches. Marquette is 27th in the AP and 25th in the Coaches. While Villanova is tied for 23rd in the AP and 28th in the Coaches.
 
I am with you 100% on Creighton, I sort of hear ya with Marquette as they did beat Texas and Gonzaga but Villanova's biggest win is over Princeton, so they have much more work to do. Just squeaking by Temple after losing all game is not a good look.

One of the things that I think would immensely help Big East WCBB is if they paid the worthy coaches commensurate salaries as the Big East claims to be a Basketball conference (the Men's side does pay up so...). To me, Creighton needs to pay Flannary to keep him and build their brand, Villanova should lock of Denise Dillon and Marquette should tout and retain Duffy. Honestly the rest of the league's coaches are all "meh". While I am not sold on Tony Bozzella at Seton Hall his last 3 years at SHU have been the best in program history. He is only 88-75 in league play in 9 years.

Like I said, the rest of this coaching lot is lacking. We can't be considered on par with any P5 if 6 or 7 of the coaches don't deserve to be leading teams. We can only hope to get 4 teams into the NCAAT again. That has to improve.
 
DefenseBB said:
Based on Merit, which even after week 3 is still inexact science, #10 North Carolina with #145, #13 LSU with #353 SoS (and there are only 361 schools in D1), #14 Arizona with #213 SoS, #18 Oregon with #141 SoS, #23 Michigan with #276 SoS are 5 schools who should be chastised and embarrassed for their early schedule and SHAME on the voters for rewarding them.

Where's @Plebe and his rant when I need it?
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Eh, not really a rant, but I'd only point out that there's been such a widespread race to the bottom in terms of atrocious OOC scheduling, that it would be impossible to even find 25 teams who have earned a ranking with current results.

That said, it's completely unjustifiable that Louisville and Tennessee are still ranked while Gonzaga, who has beaten both of them, is not. (Gonzaga's win over Tennessee was on Monday, after the AP vote, but still.)
 
DefenseBB said:
Based on Merit, which even after week 3 is still inexact science, #10 North Carolina with #145, #13 LSU with #353 SoS (and there are only 361 schools in D1), #14 Arizona with #213 SoS, #18 Oregon with #141 SoS, #23 Michigan with #276 SoS are 5 schools who should be chastised and embarrassed for their early schedule and SHAME on the voters for rewarding them.

Where's @Plebe and his rant when I need it?
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Why should they be voted down for scheduling easy? Just because they haven’t played tough opponents doesn’t mean they aren’t a top 25 team
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Texas and Tennessee just look out of place being ranked with all of those losses.
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Out of fairness, I’ll grant Texas the same courtesy I did to UConn last year. Playing without your star PG is hard, especially to open the season. I’m confident they’ll hit their stride when Rori returns.
 
darrell said:
Out of fairness, I’ll grant Texas the same courtesy I did to UConn last year. Playing without your star PG is hard, especially to open the season. I’m confident they’ll hit their stride when Rori returns.
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I also have more faith in Texas’ coach to have them ready by the end of the year. As to Tennessee . . . Uhm. . . I’m not so sure.
 
darrell said:
Out of fairness, I’ll grant Texas the same courtesy I did to UConn last year. Playing without your star PG is hard, especially to open the season. I’m confident they’ll hit their stride when Rori returns.
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No one should be getting any courtesies. Your record is what your record is. Who did you play and what was the result? That's all that should matter.
 
Bone Dog said:
I still remember that game. What a stupid rule. If they're out of TOs, the refs should just ignore it.
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It is the rule, so they must enforce it. Maybe it would not have happen during a game
later in the year??? Is there another "stupid rule" for the 5 seconds to inbound the
ball? Good defense by South Carolina. I was calling out " that's at least SIX SECONDS!!"
Stanford lost their " minds" at the end of the game.... and lost the game... Give credit to
the Gamecocks.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
No one should be getting any courtesies. Your record is what your record is. Who did you play and what was the result? That's all that should matter.
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It's a long season, IMO they should go down and because these are good teams, start
the long climb back up ( and get the seeding they deserve, hopefully ).
 
It's kind of a mix, for me, of what have you proved about your team and what is a realistic guess about your potential. Creighton Marquette Villanova have proved a lot but folks can reasonably doubt their potential. All those Power 5 Portal Patchwork teams who have only been hammering creampuffs have proved nothing. Tennessee and Texas have scheduled better and paid for it with losses. I suspect both will prove rank worthy in a few weeks, but not top-10. What about UCLA? They've proved a little and recruited well. But their potential is hard to gauge.

By the way, I've copyrighted the bolded phrase.
 
Bone Dog said:
It's kind of a mix, for me, of what have you proved about your team and what is a realistic guess about your potential. Creighton Marquette Villanova have proved a lot but folks can reasonably doubt their potential. All those Power 5 Portal Patchwork teams who have only been hammering creampuffs have proved nothing. Tennessee and Texas have scheduled better and paid for it with losses. I suspect both will prove rank worthy in a few weeks, but not top-10. What about UCLA? They've proved a little and recruited well. But their potential is hard to gauge.

By the way, I've copyrighted the bolded phrase.
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Nice triple alliteration.
 
Zarathustra said:
It is the rule, so they must enforce it. Maybe it would not have happen during a game
later in the year??? Is there another "stupid rule" for the 5 seconds to inbound the
ball?
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That’s my point — the rule is stupid, not the refs for enforcing it. It makes the players into bookkeepers. The 5 second inbounds rule is different. That time limit is part of the action of a game, like the 10 second rule or the shot clock.
 
Plebe said:
Eh, not really a rant, but I'd only point out that there's been such a widespread race to the bottom in terms of atrocious OOC scheduling, that it would be impossible to even find 25 teams who have earned a ranking with current results.

That said, it's completely unjustifiable that Louisville and Tennessee are still ranked while Gonzaga, who has beaten both of them, is not. (Gonzaga's win over Tennessee was on Monday, after the AP vote, but still.)
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My take: No one wants to watch a game between grossly mismatched opponents. Those coaches that schedule cupcake games are doing a disservice to WBB. WBB teams will not build a loyal fanbase until the games are competitive. UConn, South Carolina, Texas, Louisville, Stanford and Tennessee should be the scheduling model to follow if the team has aspirations to be elite.
 
Jmsdawg said:
My take: No one wants to watch a game between grossly mismatched opponents. Those coaches that schedule cupcake games are doing a disservice to WBB. WBB teams will not build a loyal fanbase until the games are competitive. UConn, South Carolina, Texas, Louisville, Stanford and Tennessee should be the scheduling model to follow if the team has aspirations to be elite.
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This is also what’s wrong with D1 football. If a team is not undefeated, they’re done. How boring. Undefeated seasons are exciting sometimes. But sometimes they just look like poor scheduling. I’d like to see the one seeds have 4 or 5 losses before the tournament. That would make sense to me.
 
browns said:
They were ranked #2 and lost in OT to the consensus best team in the nation and as much as I like Uconn the eye test shows they are the top 2 teams in the nation
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After watching the game between S.C. and Stanford, I'm convinced that our Uconn ladies would beat both of them, at any location. I'm not just saying this because it sounds good, I'm convinced we'll beat both of them. Even losing 2 major players like we have, this is the year to take home #12. This team has what it takes to win it all this year!
 
SqueaksFan said:
After watching the game between S.C. and Stanford, I'm convinced that our Uconn ladies would beat both of them, at any location. I'm not just saying this because it sounds good, I'm convinced we'll beat both of them. Even losing 2 major players like we have, this is the year to take home #12. This team has what it takes to win it all this year!
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If Niki Muhl can continue to be successful at PG, I agree. I believe Niki is the straw that stir the sugar that makes UConn so sweet.
 

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