Week 17 - Feb 26 to Mar 4 (games, conf standings, NET)

[nwhoopfan]

PACT

1 Stan v 8 Cal/9 Wazzu
4 OreSt v 5 Col/12 Ore

2 UCLA v 7 Ariz/10 Wash
3 USC v 6 Utah/11 ASU

Though personally I’d rather have seen a bracket based on next years affiliation

• Stan v Cal
• Col v ASU / Utah v Ariz
• UCLA v Ore / USC v Wash
• OreSt v WashSt

Arizona, Washington St., Washington all fighting to get on the right side of the bubble. The better teams still jockeying for seeding in the Tourney. Could get a rubber match between the LA schools, and Oregon St. one more chance to beat Stanford. Of course it seems like there are almost always some surprises in the Pac 12 tourney, so this probably won't go entirely to chalk.

 

[Geew1992]

Announcer for the duke NC game just said JuJu has a chance to break Caitlin’s record if she stays. She’s putting up 40 and 50 on the regular

 

[Dillon77]

Announcer for the duke NC game just said JuJu has a chance to break Caitlin’s record if she stays. She’s putting up 40 and 50 on the regular

Yes, I'm watching the same game and heard Brooke Weisbrod say that.
Hmm. Just a few quick thoughts:

• Juju' taken some 160 threes, which is not a small amount, but nowhere near CC. Three's help you get points faster for obvious reasons.
• On the other hand, three of USC's other scorers are grad students, who will not be coming back. If incoming freshmen and/or new portal finds don't match the outgoing players, JuJu might start jacking up (even) more shots.

Plus, I've got to see more of JuJu to see if she has that Descartes approach like CC does: "I score, therefore I am."

 

[nwhoopfan]

She’s putting up 40 and 50 on the regular

I wouldn't say that. 30 sure, but higher than that has been rare.

Looked to make sure. 1 50 pt game, 1 40 pt game, 10 games in the 30s.

 

[jake0414]

PACT

1 Stan v 8 Cal/9 Wazzu
4 OreSt v 5 Col/12 Ore

2 UCLA v 7 Ariz/10 Wash
3 USC v 6 Utah/11 ASU

Though personally I’d rather have seen a bracket based on next years affiliation

• Stan v Cal
• Col v ASU / Utah v Ariz
• UCLA v Ore / USC v Wash
• OreSt v WashSt

Need to swap USC (#2) and UCLA (#3). USC wins the tie breaker as it beat Stanford and UCLA didn't.

 

[cancontent]

Could it be Iowa's offense is really hard to control? Look at their season results. Been held in the 60s a few times, otherwise a bunch of 80+, and 10x 100+. I would guess they lead the nation in eclipsing the century mark.

When it comes to Ohio State, no. They're the one team that has a defence that travels well based on their conference record this season, with the exception of losses to Michigan and Iowa. Typically they're good at blocking out the noise, but when they don't they're vulnerable in making bad decisions.

I look at their loss against Michigan in Ann Arbor when McMahon picked up two quick fouls and lost by a surprising double digits. They may have put up the white flag in the first quarter. Contrast that against their game against Michigan State in East Lansing. They had key players dealing with foul trouble early in the game, but somehow remained focused to blow Michigan State out by 20 points.

Now look at this game. It was still competitive when McMahon picked up the tech. They looked visibly frustrated with how things were being called. It continued in the 3rd which is when they usually pull away. They were dealing with two competitors today. Iowa and their internal frustrations. That's a 2 on 1 that's hard to beat.

 

[cancontent]

Announcer for the duke NC game just said JuJu has a chance to break Caitlin’s record if she stays. She’s putting up 40 and 50 on the regular

The "If she stays" was a confusing statement. Does Watkins have the option to declare for the WNBA early?

 

[nwhoopfan]

When it comes to Ohio State, no.

Iowa scored 83 in regulation against them in Columbus and 92 in OT.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Is Villanova gonna mess around and lose to DePaul?

Same question for Florida St. against Clemson.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Nebraska trying to give away a double bye in the Big 10 tourney. Had a case of ball don't lie, phantom foul call but missed both FTs. Illinois up 1 w/ 20+ seconds left. Possession of ball pending a review.

 

[cancontent]

Iowa scored 83 in regulation against them in Columbus and 92 in OT.

And Ohio State beat them by 8 during that OT game. I also said their defence typically travels well.

 

[nwhoopfan]

And Ohio State beat them by 8 during that OT game. I also said their defence typically travels well.

We're making different points. Iowa IS hard to contain. Even though Ohio St. won the game, you can hardly say they stopped the Iowa offense.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Illinois goes on 6-0 run at the end to beat Nebraska by 1.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Just a heads up, we're about 30 seconds away from having an epic rant from one of our favorite posters.

 

[Vowelguy]

Clark avg 27.4 her frosh year
Juju avg 27.8 this year, so yes she could be on pace to challenge Clark

Also Clark had a few games cancelled her frosh year due to Covid so Watkins has good shot at more games this year

 

[cancontent]

We're making different points. Iowa IS hard to contain. Even though Ohio St. won the game, you can hardly say they stopped the Iowa offense.

You asked if I thought Iowa's scoring average could be a reason. I said no and provided my perspective which is that Ohio State's defence typically travels well. How is that we're making different points? I answered your question.

 

[triaddukefan]

 

[nwhoopfan]

By my calculations Lawson is 2-5 against Banghart head to head FWIW.

 

[triaddukefan]

da hell with a tarheel

 

[triaddukefan]

By my calculations Lawson is 2-5 against Banghart head to head FWIW.

1, This ain't no math thread

2. Whose side are you on anyway?

 

[Vowelguy]

The "If she stays" was a confusing statement. Does Watkins have the option to declare for the WNBA early?

1) could go abroad
2) could challenge WNBA rule in court and would probably win

 

[nwhoopfan]

1, This ain't no math thread

2. Whose side are you on anyway?

I'm sorry, but I've hated K and the Duke men's program for decades so it's guilt by association. Can't root for Duke in anything. I hope that doesn't come between us.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Clemson-Florida St. on the verge of 2 OT, but Tigers might've just called a time out they didn't have. Paging Chris Webber...

 

[Geew1992]

The "If she stays" was a confusing statement. Does Watkins have the option to declare for the WNBA early?

I thought so too. They didn’t elaborate so I have no idea

 

[nwhoopfan]

Yeah speaking of not a math thread, Clemson called one more time out than they had available and thusly gave the game away.

 

[Geew1992]

Clark avg 27.4 her frosh year
Juju avg 27.8 this year, so yes she could be on pace to challenge Clark

Also Clark had a few games cancelled her frosh year due to Covid so Watkins has good shot at more games this year

JuJu having a chance, yes I can see that. But…My question is , can JuJu leave early?? Also, she isn’t scoring 40-50 points on the regular.

 

[triaddukefan]

I'm sorry, but I've hated K and the Duke men's program for decades so it's guilt by association. Can't root for Duke in anything. I hope that doesn't come between us.

As I proceed to bury all of my Washington gear deep deep in the back of the closet.

 

[nwhoopfan]

As I proceed to bury all of my Washington gear deep deep in the back of the closet.

Who are you kidding, it was already at the back of the closet.

 

[Vowelguy]

JuJu having a chance, yes I can see that. But…My question is , can JuJu leave early?? Also, she isn’t scoring 40-50 points on the regular.

You’re making too much of an off-hand comment. She was confused. Male players leave all the time; female players are now in the will they/won’t they because of the Covid year and injuries.

 

[The deacon]

That entire 6 point sequence was bogus. The initial foul call was an all ball block, then the ridiculous flop by Clark resulting in the tech and then the inbounds play which the Iowa player CAUGHT and shot with .3 on the clock. As we all know......... "When play is resumed with a throw-in or free throw and three-tenths (. 3) of a second or less remains on the clock, a player may not gain control of the ball and try for a field goal. In this situation only a tap could score." I would have like to see how the rest of the game played out if that sequence were eliminated.

Agreed re the poor refereeing, Blueballer, but how is it a 'ridiculous flop' if the player simply takes a backward step or two and doesn't come close to falling. Terrible call, yet not a flop...