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Pitt just stopped Virginia on 4th and 1 around the Pitt 20. AFTER the play was over, and Pitt had clearly stopped Virginia, the officials called "Officials were not in position for the play" and gave Virginia another down. That call could cost the ACC a second team in the playoffs. I have been watching football since I was a little kid, and that is the first time I have ever seen that call.

If I am the ACC, i do a full investigation of the entire officiating team. I have seen more bizarre calls and player breakdowns in college football and basketball in the few years since sports betting has become legal than I did in the decades previous to that.
 
IU v Ohio State actually means something this year.
Cignetti truly a transformational coach.
IU has a bye week to prepare
 
ZooCougar said:
Oh stop.

You're a Miami fan.

Do you know anything about Howard Schnellenburger? Do you think that was all on the up and up? You slay me.
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You seem upset, as if you feel I am targeting SMU or something. I don't care what they, or anyone else ever did, when it came to money. I am just pointing out that they were much more careless or arrogant about how they went about things. If you watch the 30 for 30 about SMU, they have the news footage of SMU officials being shown, and asked about documented payments to a player. It may have been a check, or a record of payment that had been signed off on by a university admin. The news guys totally ambushed them with it and they had no answer. Those guys took it to a very bold and reckless level.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Pitt just stopped Virginia on 4th and 1 around the Pitt 20. AFTER the play was over, and Pitt had clearly stopped Virginia, the officials called "Officials were not in position for the play" and gave Virginia another down. That call could cost the ACC a second team in the playoffs. I have been watching football since I was a little kid, and that is the first time I have ever seen that call.

If I am the ACC, i do a full investigation of the entire officiating team. I have seen more bizarre calls and player breakdowns in college football and basketball in the few years since sports betting has become legal than I did in the decades previous to that.
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That league has some of the worst officiating you will ever see, to say the least. From blatantly ignored calls, to crazy replays, to claims of "not having enough cameras to get the right view of a play", and now that one. I'd say the officials in that league are crooked, but too many of their calls don't seem to work in favor for the top teams in the league, and are just insanely bad.
 
nwhoopfan said:
They aren't even guaranteed of that are they?


edit--yeah, 5 highest rated conference champions by the selection committee, so there isn't exactly an auto bid for anybody
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Now BYU doing their best to screw their season.
 
Utah AD 'disgusted' by refs after frantic BYU rally
"This game was absolutely stolen from us," Harlan said. "We were excited about being in the Big 12, but tonight I am not. We won this game. Someone else stole it from us. Very disappointed.
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"I will talk to the commissioner. This was not fair to our team. I'm disgusted by the professionalism of the officiating crew tonight."
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Hey, leave, we'll take your spot that should have gone to us instead.
 
Ehh the Big12 is only ever getting one team in anyway. The Sec and Big said be happy with your one playoff allotment before you have 0. So even if Byu loses that game the conference champ would get in and that’s it.
 
mike012 said:
Ehh the Big12 is only ever getting one team in anyway. The Sec and Big said be happy with your one playoff allotment before you have 0. So even if Byu loses that game the conference champ would get in and that’s it.
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Still a small chance boise and army pass byu, knocking cougars out.
 
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traitor71 said:
Now BYU doing their best to screw their season.
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I was totally forgetting about BYU. Yeah if they stay undefeated they would get in. I stopped paying attention to the score at halftime, thought Utah was going to take them out.
 
What then hell happened in that game? Did a ref trip someone? That is a very strong condemnation by an AD.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
What then hell happened in that game? Did a ref trip someone? That is a very strong condemnation by an AD.
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There's a lot going on there that I haven't really digested but there's some people even saying that the ad was walking on the field which would negated the game winner and speculation if the ad will get fired.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
What then hell happened in that game? Did a ref trip someone? That is a very strong condemnation by an AD.
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Defensive holding called on Utah on 4th & long near BYU's goal line allowed them to stay alive & eventually drive down to kick the game-winning FG (BYU player held was former UConn WR Keelan Marion).

 
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BugsyCT said:
Defensive holding called on Utah on 4th & long near their goal line allowed them to stay alive & eventually drive down to kick the game-winning FG (BYU player held was former UConn WR Keelan Marion).

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I gotta say I watched this and I don't even know if I see a penalty. If there was holding, would it usually be called when the QB was sacked so quickly? I don't know the nuances of this rule in this situation. 4th and 10 from the BYU 9 with 1:30 to go. That's a tough call. And here is how the game played out.

 
I don’t know rule specifics either but seems like holding to me. Has the receiver locked up down the field.

Btw, those red & blue uniforms look awesome.
 
As a former DB, I would hate that call against,me because it seems Marion initiated contact, but technically it was holding....I think
 
Kolumbo said:
I gotta say I watched this and I don't even know if I see a penalty. If there was holding, would it usually be called when the QB was sacked so quickly? I don't know the nuances of this rule in this situation. 4th and 10 from the BYU 9 with 1:30 to go. That's a tough call. And here is how the game played out.

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We needed that staff against WF!
 
traitor71 said:
You seem upset, as if you feel I am targeting SMU or something. I don't care what they, or anyone else ever did, when it came to money. I am just pointing out that they were much more careless or arrogant about how they went about things. If you watch the 30 for 30 about SMU, they have the news footage of SMU officials being shown, and asked about documented payments to a player. It may have been a check, or a record of payment that had been signed off on by a university admin. The news guys totally ambushed them with it and they had no answer. Those guys took it to a very bold and reckless level.
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They were just the ones who got caught.

Miami was no different.
 
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Hated that call that saved BYU. Could have been called a dozen other times. It stinks for the young men. They won that game.
 
As far as what they did, there wasn't too much difference between SMU and quite a few other schools. As far as how they did it, there was a massive difference and that is what eventually led to the death penalty.

The standard operating procedure for buying athletes had always been arms length transactions with a wink and a nod, allowing for plausible deniability from those directly connected with the school. SMU had what they referred to as board meetings with high level members of the football staff, athletic department and administration (school president for a while) meeting with how powered boosters weekly to strategize financial needs to acquire players and payments to players.

After getting caught (I believe for the third time in four years) they agreed to basically a plea bargain where they would no longer cheat and accept a death penalty if they broke the agreement. They continued paying some of their players after that (the evidence for the enforcement of the death penalty) then after a number of months decided to no longer pay, which led to the whistle blowing.

The board meetings and identifiable planning among school employees is what set them apart.
 
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