We need to stop listening to the "Big East Sucks" Doom and Gloomers

[nelsonmuntz]

Could impending rev-share changes help Cinderellas in the future? 'Everybody will be in the game'

As the college sports industry sits on the brink of historic change, an unexpected spending disparity looms — and some mid-majors will be able to take advantage of it in basketball.

sports.yahoo.com

Because they talk out their butt. There are many, many, many posters that are being proven spectacularly wrong on this.

 

[ZooCougar]

Could impending rev-share changes help Cinderellas in the future? 'Everybody will be in the game'

As the college sports industry sits on the brink of historic change, an unexpected spending disparity looms — and some mid-majors will be able to take advantage of it in basketball.

sports.yahoo.com

Because they talk out their butt. There are many, many, many posters that are being proven spectacularly wrong on this.

So you’re admitting that the Big East is Mid Major? That’s an interesting approach.

 

[noeynox]

That article calls UConn and Creighton mid majors.

Then there is this.

Many believe that the power conferences will use their influence to alter governance and championships as a way to combat any basketball spending disparity.

“What does our future state of being look like that might allow a non-FBS school to outspend [a power conference school] in basketball?” asked one Division I conference commissioner. “I don’t think that future is going to exist. They have the control and they’re going to stop that from happening.”

Its great that the Big East is in the best spot possible out side the Autonomy conferences, but they still make the rules, in between quote above and what Boheim stated, Sankey and others are not gonna sit back and let the Big East have an advantage over their programs.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So you’re admitting that the Big East is Mid Major? That’s an interesting approach.

I am linking an article by the most Big East-hating, college sports journalist that says that the Big East may have an advantage in revenue sharing.

 

[cellocgg]

The Big East is my favorite mid-major conference. At least these journalists aren't afraid to say it how it is

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

but they still make the rules, in between quote above and what Boheim stated, Sankey and others are not gonna sit back and let the Big East have an advantage over their programs.

In a weird twist of fate, I hope the power conferences get so uneasy about UConn being able to outspend them in basketball and one of them brings us in for all sports. That'd be ironic.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

No one is stopping the P4 from spending more on basketball. Ohio State’s championship roster cost like 22mm and that’s without rev sharing. If they care, at all, about basketball they will find some loose change for it.

 

[uconndogs]

The only advantage that I can see that the Big East might have is that ability to compete with the major conferences because the schools do NOT have to support competitive football (UCONN excepted of course). They will still need to generate funding streams to support NIL, revenue sharing, etc., but will not be competing with football for those resources.

That said, what's the payroll requirement going to be to attract and retain the best talent? There's no salary cap. Is it $10 million, $50 million, annually? Does a top talent see a $10 million number? Not every program will have the ability or inclination to source that type of funding.

The influence of the BiG and SEC is very real in my opinion given the command they have on football.

The whole thing is turning to a crock of ------ in my opinion, but anyway......

 

[noeynox]

The only advantage that I can see that the Big East might have is that ability to compete with the major conferences because the schools do NOT have to support competitive football (UCONN excepted of course). They will still need to generate funding streams to support NIL, revenue sharing, etc., but will not be competing with football for those resources.

That said, what's the payroll requirement going to be to attract and retain the best talent? There's no salary cap. Is it $10 million, $50 million, annually? Does a top talent see a $10 million number? Not every program will have the ability or inclination to source that type of funding.

The influence of the BiG and SEC is very real in my opinion given the command they have on football.

The whole thing is turning to a crock of ------ in my opinion, but anyway......

I mean there is a salary cap sorta speak in that you could only distribute 22 million across all sports.

 

[UConnDan97]

Is the Big East the best non-P4 conference? Yes

Would it be better for UConn to be in a P4 conference? Also Yes

The answers to these two questions are painfully obvious to all that follow college sports. But I would bet money that I can't get two "Yes" answers out of Nelson...

 

[uconndogs]

I mean there is a salary cap sorta speak in that you could only distribute 22 million across all sports.

I understand, but NIL has no limits and will be readily used to attract and retain the best talent.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I mean there is a salary cap sorta speak in that you could only distribute 22 million across all sports.

Is NIL part of that amount? If not, P4 schools can still use NIL to get around that amount easily.

I mean, they can do something life $500k revenue share and $2M NIL. The player is getting $2.5M, so why does he or she care about where the money is coming from?

 

[noeynox]

Is NIL part of that amount? If not, P4 schools can still use NIL to get around that amount easily.

I mean, they can do something life $500k revenue share and $2M NIL. The player is getting $2.5M, so why does he or she care about where the money is coming from?

Read the article. There is currently an attempt to curtail some of the NIL deals that are nothing but boosters paying players. That is in spirit what this new revenue sharing proposal is supposed to reign in. Jim Boheim doesn't think this new attempt will stand up in court. If it does stand up, this is where the BE could have an advantage.

I'm no expert and could be wrong, but that was my major takeaway.

 

[uconndogs]

Read the article. There is currently an attempt to curtail some of the NIL deals that are nothing but boosters paying players. That is in spirit what this new revenue sharing proposal is supposed to reign in. Jim Boheim doesn't think this new attempt will stand up in court. If it does stand up, this is where the BE could have an advantage.

I'm no expert and could be wrong, but that was my major takeaway.

Even if it did hold up in court, who and how would it me enforced?

 

[John]

Could impending rev-share changes help Cinderellas in the future? 'Everybody will be in the game'

As the college sports industry sits on the brink of historic change, an unexpected spending disparity looms — and some mid-majors will be able to take advantage of it in basketball.

sports.yahoo.com

Because they talk out their butt. There are many, many, many posters that are being proven spectacularly wrong on this.

you love being in a mid-major boutique conference with Seton Hall, we heard you the first time.

 

[ZooCougar]

Is the Big East the best non-P4 conference? Yes

Would it be better for UConn to be in a P4 conference? Also Yes

The answers to these two questions are painfully obvious to all that follow college sports. But I would bet money that I can't get two "Yes" answers out of Nelson...

So what you are saying is that you want to go back to the AAC. Got it.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Read the article. There is currently an attempt to curtail some of the NIL deals that are nothing but boosters paying players. That is in spirit what this new revenue sharing proposal is supposed to reign in. Jim Boheim doesn't think this new attempt will stand up in court. If it does stand up, this is where the BE could have an advantage.

I'm no expert and could be wrong, but that was my major takeaway.

The Big East is a collection of big market schools with fan bases beyond its alumni. It will be fine in NIL. The revenue share is the real risk, but if most of that is going to football, maybe the Big East will be able to compete.

The professional salary cap has held up for over two decades, but there needs to be collective bargaining for a harder cap to happen.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Is the Big East the best non-P4 conference? Yes

Would it be better for UConn to be in a P4 conference? Also Yes

The answers to these two questions are painfully obvious to all that follow college sports. But I would bet money that I can't get two "Yes" answers out of Nelson...

I bet 1/8 of my posts on the Boneyard are about getting into one of the major football conferences.

I somehow manage to post about it without whining and being a misery about our current conference situation or proposing idiotic strategies that are nothing more than magical thinking.

 

[buddy]

So what you are saying is that you want to go back to the AAC. Got it.

He didn't say that at all. He said UConn would be better off in a P4 Conference. The AAC is not a power conference. The Big East is a great conference for schools that are not FBS. For an FBS school, not so much. The State of CT dropped the ball decades ago on promoting UConn on a national level.

 

[buddy]

I bet 1/8 of my posts on the Boneyard are about getting into one of the major football conferences.

I somehow manage to post about it without whining and being a misery about our current conference situation or proposing idiotic strategies that are nothing more than magical thinking.

If one of the idiotic strategies you are referring to include the merger of the Big East and the ACC, you are absolutely corrext.

 

[noeynox]

The Big East is a collection of big market schools with fan bases beyond its alumni. It will be fine in NIL. The revenue share is the real risk, but if most of that is going to football, maybe the Big East will be able to compete.

The professional salary cap has held up for over two decades, but there needs to be collective bargaining for a harder cap to happen.

Isn't a school like UConn using its former NIL collective as part of its revenue sharing going forward? Wasn't that part of what bringing Bleeding Blue for Good in-house was about?

That article you posted did a good job of hitting on many possible outcomes to the upcoming format. It will only be a beneficial to the Big East if the P4/Autonomy leagues allow it to be. As you read from ADs and Greg Sankey, they are "concerned" about the BE having an advantage over their programs. I do not believe they are going to stand by allow for the advantage to play out. They will tweak the rules to tilt the scales back in their favor. I have zero doubt about it if an article like that gets put out there.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If one of the idiotic strategies you are referring to include the merger of the Big East and the ACC, you are absolutely corrext.

Idiotic is thinking that after 22 years of asking the ACC if the want us as a one off addition, that they will suddenly say yes. Even more idiotic is thinking that the ACC will ever make UConn a full member as a one-off addition after what SMU did.

Anyone that is against thinking outside the box is really saying they don’t want UConn in a P4 league and enjoy wallowing in misery.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Isn't a school like UConn using its former NIL collective as part of its revenue sharing going forward? Wasn't that part of what bringing Bleeding Blue for Good in-house was about?

That article you posted did a good job of hitting on many possible outcomes to the upcoming format. It will only be a beneficial to the Big East if the P4/Autonomy leagues allow it to be. As you read from ADs and Greg Sankey, they are "concerned" about the BE having an advantage over their programs. I do not believe they are going to stand by allow for the advantage to play out. They will tweak the rules to tilt the scales back in their favor. I have zero doubt about it if an article like that gets put out there.

Sankey may go down as one of the stupidest business leaders in American history. He is working overtime to kill the golden goose that pays for the whole party.

 

[noeynox]

Idiotic is thinking that after 22 years of asking the ACC if the want us as a one off addition, that they will suddenly say yes. Even more idiotic is thinking that the ACC will ever make UConn a full member as a one-off addition after what SMU did.

Anyone that is against thinking outside the box is really saying they don’t want UConn in a P4 league and enjoy wallowing in misery.

Before the ACC took Cal/Stanford/SMU. I proposed UConn should approach the ACC about taking half a share so they could give the other share to Clemson/FSU/Carolina and tell them to STFU. You would have though I insulted posters mothers by even suggesting that. UConn has always been a day late and a dollar short in CR. The outside the box thinking needs to come from within the leadership at the school.

 

[champs99and04]

No one is stopping the P4 from spending more on basketball. Ohio State’s championship roster cost like 22mm and that’s without rev sharing. If they care, at all, about basketball they will find some loose change for it.

Let me know how it goes over in Buckeye land when the school cheaps out on the interior OL so it can outbid Georgetown for some transfer from Fordham.

Nelson is right in that the Big East is much better-positioned for long-term success than some of you let on. Will it be at a major advantage over the football schools like the article speculates? That seems unlikely. But the anxiety it's causing people across the P4 is clearly real. The Big East has legitimate advantages over the P4 that this board doesn't want to acknowledge because of the obvious conflict of interest it presents with regard to UConn football.