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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 2289358, member: 1414"] That's fine. I just view it differently. I'm sure some others do as well. 1. You play to win. That implies not losing. So winning percentage is to they measure of greatness. How infrequently you lose matters a great deal. Great programs don't lose many games. 2. The championship is one game. I value it more than any other game, but not to an absurd degree. All the tournament games you play are almost as important, since it is a win or go home event. 3. If you finish second you had a great year. Your fans saw many wins. They saw at least five wins in the tournament, including one in the final four. A single loss in a championship is much less painful to me than missing the tournament is. 4. Disagree teams are defined by championships. The Yankees of recent years (before this one)? Completely irrelevant lousy teams. It doesn't matter how many WS titles you have [U]unless you are contending for one this year[/U]. The teams that contend year in and year out are the ones we admire. [/QUOTE]