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Barnes' comments after losing in the first round of WBIT:



This is so unacceptable!
 
Coach that complained about getting sent to storrs last year. Seems like she is never happy.
 
Geew1992 said:
Barnes' comments after losing in the first round of WBIT:



This is so unacceptable!
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Honesty?

It's pretty clear there are differences in motivation levels when it comes to participating in non primary post season tournaments. Or bowl games if you want to look at football. Some teams don't really want to be there and they play like it. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Would you rather the coach lie about it with some platitudes or cliches? I think Barnes has been a straight shooter who speaks her mind throughout her tenure as a head coach.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Honesty?

It's pretty clear there are differences in motivation levels when it comes to participating in non primary post season tournaments. Or bowl games if you want to look at football. Some teams don't really want to be there and they play like it. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Would you rather the coach lie about it with some platitudes or cliches? I think Barnes has been a straight shooter who speaks her mind throughout her tenure as a head coach.
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Nothing to do with honesty. If they didn't want to play there, why accept the bid? Let someone else play in the tournament
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Honesty?

It's pretty clear there are differences in motivation levels when it comes to participating in non primary post season tournaments. Or bowl games if you want to look at football. Some teams don't really want to be there and they play like it. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Would you rather the coach lie about it with some platitudes or cliches? I think Barnes has been a straight shooter who speaks her mind throughout her tenure as a head coach.
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Here’s a novel idea. How about Barnes saying something to the effect of, “I didn’t do my job getting the team ready to play.” That would have been honest.
 
Geew1992 said:
Nothing to do with honesty. If they didn't want to play there, why accept the bid? Let someone else play in the tournament
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Okay, I get that. Teams do decline invitations sometimes. I don't know if the players get to vote, or if the coach decides unilaterally, or maybe it's up to the AD.
 
oldude said:
Here’s a novel idea. How about Barnes saying something to the effect of, “I didn’t do my job getting the team ready to play.” That would have been honest.
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There's that too.

Throwing players under the bus certainly isn't new and she's far from the first coach to do it.
 
To me the more troubling part about it is it pretty much discredits their opponent. Northern Arizona beat them twice this year, I think you'd just have to say NAU is the better team.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Fans are ready for a change at Arizona. Something is up, Adia was tearing up and getting hugs. Could she have been told she had to win to get an extension? Or does she know she is leaving for greener pastures?

Some great individual performances. Swann is a keeper.
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I wonder? Tearing up after losing to the Big Sky runner up for the second time this season at home may also motivate the tears. I would think prudence would be for the powers that be to hold off on extension or extension talk till after next year, but we do know that financial prudence had never been a concern for the kitty administration (*or any higher ed administration for that matter).

Maybe 2,700 in the house reflects a decline in support for the 1.2 million dollar coach?
 
nwhoopfan said:
There's that too.

Throwing players under the bus certainly isn't new and she's far from the first coach to do it.
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A REALLY bad look, am I the only one thinking about the double bird from a few years ago?
 
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nwhoopfan said:
To me the more troubling part about it is it pretty much discredits their opponent. Northern Arizona beat them twice this year, I think you'd just have to say NAU is the better team.
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ABSOLUTELY!!

And a case can be made that Payne is the better coach!!!!!!!!!
 
Stagnant said:
If Adia wants to coach somewhere else, I am not fighting very hard to keep her if I am Arizona.
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On point. Neither am I. BUT, she is a legend in the dirty t and the dirty t folk love their legends.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Honesty?

It's pretty clear there are differences in motivation levels when it comes to participating in non primary post season tournaments. Or bowl games if you want to look at football. Some teams don't really want to be there and they play like it. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Would you rather the coach lie about it with some platitudes or cliches? I think Barnes has been a straight shooter who speaks her mind throughout her tenure as a head coach.
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Inconsistent in her shots, I think the failure to clearly address play preparation, turnover, motivation is a missed shot. Further her failure to should some of the responsibility for development - I am thinking of Cunningham is a clear missed shot.

In fact, had she not been a legendary player for the kitties and had a dream 2 years I think there would clearly be less grace for her - I am thinking of the double bird from years past, perhaps a trick shot?

Now clearly she is no Natasha Adair . . . . but . . . .
 
azfan said:
In fact, had she not been a legendary player for the kitties and had a dream 2 years I think there would clearly be less grace for her
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Look at the last 3 years under Bonvicini and then the 8 years of Butts and compare to Barnes. She should have some grace period because she lifted them up from the ruins.
 
oldude said:
As a head coach, when you throw your team under the bus for lack of motivation, it really is an indictment of you as a coach.
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I don't read it that way. I was there, and the players played hard. I'm not sure she wasn't including herself in the "didn't really want to be there" grouping, although really the only thing that they (consistently) didn't do was rebound. Cunningham, Jones, and Swann played extremely well. Williams was in a boot and didn't play.

In every "off the record" gathering - chalk talks and off-air at her coach's shows - Adia has always taken responsibility for mistakes she has made and what all the critical folks on message boards would say her weaknesses. That's why she is generally well liked, I can't stand coaches that don't take responsibilities for the good and the bad.

I'm sure that - if there is any idea that Arizona is going to "do something" - it would just be not give her an extension at this point.
 
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azfan said:
I wonder? Tearing up after losing to the Big Sky runner up for the second time this season at home may also motivate the tears. I would think prudence would be for the powers that be to hold off on extension or extension talk till after next year, but we do know that financial prudence had never been a concern for the kitty administration (*or any higher ed administration for that matter).

Maybe 2,700 in the house reflects a decline in support for the 1.2 million dollar coach?
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Nah regarding the attendance. It wasn't "pushed", it was the best of any game played on the day. Low non-big dance attendance is the norm for post-season 2nd rate tournaments, especially in the early rounds.
 
nwhoopfan said:
To me the more troubling part about it is it pretty much discredits their opponent. Northern Arizona beat them twice this year, I think you'd just have to say NAU is the better team.
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The preview in the paper including remarks on NAU by Salvo was very complimentary. We didn't just lose to them in the regular season, we were beat on. At their place, but still.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Nah regarding the attendance. It wasn't "pushed", it was the best of any game played on the day. Low non-big dance attendance is the norm for post-season 2nd rate tournaments, especially in the early rounds.
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I wonder how it compared to the games yesterday with the big dogs playing
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
The preview in the paper including remarks on NAU by Salvo was very complimentary. We didn't just lose to them in the regular season, we were beat on. At their place, but still.
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Yep, back in November it was a beat down as the players looked unprepared and unmotivated. The jacks put 92 on a kitty team that is known for defense.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Only with an extreme case of recency bias. Come on now.
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Well if you consider recency the last 3 years. The Jacks have had a better record and improved each year over that 3 year. The same cannot be said for the kitties. Moreover the Payne approach over that 3-year. Includes no players leaving the program.

The body of work of each coach shows that Barnes has more victories and had a much hotter start and as you say in a previous post she did turn around a program that was in horrible shape.

Payne also came into a program that was a disaster over the previous 11 years, in fact in worse shape than the kiddie program.

Both have completed wonderful jobs at turning programs around. If recency is 3 years then there is bias but the trend for Payne is clearly up and the trend for Barnes is down with the exception of salary and her fashion.

It's interesting there is always push back after coaches have achieved level of the success and it seems as if the grace that we've discussed based upon history does not involve any consequences in the present.

That said I'm confident that the 1.2 million dollar coach (I believe she's the highest paid woman's coach in the Big 12 she certainly in the top three so her salary is not reflective of her big 12 performance or the last 2 years in the pac-12) will stay in the dirty t and soon become a 1.8 million dollar coach. I suspect Payne maybe one of those young coaches on the way up and her days in Flagstaff may be limited.
 
Second Round action today.

Minnesota 78
Missouri St. 71

Gonzaga 64
Colorado 55

Villanova 62
St. Joe's 60
 
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Belmont 81
Northern Arizona 80

NAU was up 17 at the half.
 
Thrilling and heartbreaking game in Tennessee as NAU is unable to hold on blowing a 21-point lead and losing on a last second shot.

The Jacks can't overcome the absence of the Moran twins who fouled out and the injury to Star big Sophie Gancy and the intense pressure by Belmont in the last 5 minutes of the game.
 
Portland 61
Seton Hall 55

Another come from behind win for the Pilots, because that's what they do.

Texas Tech 69
Virginia Tech 59

I don't think TT even had a mediocre season, but they are making the most of the post season.
 
Florida is kind of like Texas Tech, had a nothing burger of a season, but here they are with a chance to beat UNLV in the final 10 seconds. I'm really not sure how either TT or Florida even got into the WBIT.
 
Florida 86
UNLV 84

buzzer beater, broken possession that looked like it was going nowhere
 
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