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Waquoit said:
But the truth is they didn't get screwed. They weren't one of the best 4 teams. They weren't even one of the best 5 teams.
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I took no position on the controversy itself. Only on someone believing that saying "we shouldn't like FSU" changes the reality of the situation.
 
businesslawyer said:
I know this, too, seems to be a disappearing value, but some people — listen closely — actually value the truth whether it favors someone or something they favor or not.
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Hear!! Hear!!
 
Waquoit said:
I like the line "College football got the Orange Bowl it deserved".
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They got the Citrus Bowl there deserved as well! 35-0 4th quarter - now with bunch of backups out there.

I can’t imagine shelling out thousands to go see this game - what joke the bowls have turned into.

For me this all started with the Super Conferences, then came NIL and Transfer portal with no waiting period. The whole system has imploded.
 
UCan3 said:
They got the Citrus Bowl there deserved as well! 35-0 4th quarter - now with bunch of backups out there.

I can’t imagine shelling out thousands to go see this game - what joke the bowls have turned into.

For me this all started with the Super Conferences, then came NIL and Transfer portal with no waiting period. The whole system has imploded.
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Way too many bowl games, which started like 20 years ago.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Way too many bowl games, which started like 20 years ago.
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Because they were profitable programming. ESPN can produce a bowl telecast in their sleep. And often do. But is anyone still watching this dreck?
 
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Waquoit said:
Because they were profitable programming. ESPN can produce a bowl telecast in their sleep. And often do. But is anyone still watching this dreck?
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I watch a couple because the matches were intriguing to me like Ole Miss PSU and OSU Missouri
 
Waquoit said:
But the truth is they didn't get screwed. They weren't one of the best 4 teams. They weren't even one of the best 5 teams.
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No other sport looks at anything besides the record. The winner of the NFC game plays the winner of the AFC game in the Super Bowl, doesn't matter if there was a better team in the NFC. The playoff spots go to division winners and then those with the best record. Opinions don't matter.

If you have 4 spots for 5 power leagues plus pupu platter of also rans. Fairness demands you take the 4 best leagues. The CFP could have said the SEC, B12, P12, and B10 were all better than the ACC (They might be correct) and that would have been that. Instead, they tried to push record except some prognostication that FSU's wins without their QB, which included a win over a No. 14 Louisville didn't matter.

And now, it doesn't matter. If a P4 champion doesn't make the top 12 then the whole enterprise is going down. There are going to be some very disappointed programs that are now going to finish 8-4 regularly in the supersized SEC/Big10. Each now has 5 programs that expect to be top 12 every year. The B12 will get 1 spot, maybe 2 and the ACC is a one bid league. Add ND and an undefeated G5 rep and you have your pool for the 12 teams. There will be 15 teams every year expecting to get in and only 12 will. Expect the push to 16 in less than 5 years.
 
A 12 team playoff will have the top teams potentially playing 3 games to win it all.

Football is such a violent sport with such a high risk of injury, that you will see top players sit out in the playoffs. And if you are 2nd or 3rd string and are transferring, will you stick around for practices and games where you might get hurt in garbage time?

Unless the sport figures out a way to get the players to play every game, we are no where near done with players no-showing for the postseason.
 
Fraudabama spits the bit. They looked like crap on the road against G5 USF, needed a miracle to beat a sub .500 Auburn and lost at home to Texas.

It was a joke they made it and thank goodness they lost.

SEC. It just means more*

*Unless they lose then there's an excuse for losing.
 
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Waquoit said:
Because they were profitable programming. ESPN can produce a bowl telecast in their sleep. And often do. But is anyone still watching this dreck?
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I think many were profitable but gotta imagine many were losers, except for the local tourism dollars.
 
FWIW, my feed is getting blown up today with UGA players transferring and entering the draft. Same could have occurred for FSU.

Instead, the game will go down as the largest margin of victory in bowl game history. Something that they call can be proud of. Losers mentality. Not one of this kids are someone to go to war with.

Let's stop with the "these kids don't get paid" BS. Sure, the universities get paid millions from these TV deals, etc. These kids get a full ride to school, a platform to showcase their talents for the next level, and whatever other fringe benefits they recieve.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Fraudabama spits the bit. They looked like crap on the road against G5 USF, needed a miracle to beat a sub .500 Auburn and lost at home to Texas.

It was a joke they made it and thank goodness they lost.

SEC. It just means more*

*Unless they lose then there's an excuse for losing.
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Worst Saban team in a really long time. They really shouldn't have been playing tonight.
 
superjohn said:
Worst Saban team in a really long time. They really shouldn't have been playing tonight.
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FSU was the more deserving team. Georgia was the better team. But Alabama beat Georgia and so Alabama had to get in, and Texas beat Alabama, so Texas had to be in, and the CFB needed an SEC team.

If they genuinely wanted the four best teams, everyone would have picked Georgia. Instead, it was an absolute clown show that did more the discredit CFB than anything since UCF being snubbed twice, the Alabama-LSU rematch title, and USC-OU-Auburn debacle, and the weird FSU-ND reversals 30 years ago.

Oh wait, that's a lot of things... hmm...

The 12-team playoff is great. It's unfortunate it didn't happen years ago when it should have and instead has come about after the obliteration of regional conferences.
 
Second semifinal has been entertaining. Both teams with some costly mistakes. Now THIS is the version of Penix we saw the first half of the season. Absolutely money on deep throws. Maybe he's been banged up for a couple months and the time off helped him get healed up.
 
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UCan3 said:
Well, I had a separate post about this issue but circling back to this - Georgia has nearly all starters play in this game - few sat due to draft.

Florida State had tons miss the game.

It’s hard to feel bed for FSU getting passed over for the C. Playoffs. They lacked commitment of their players.

It’s ever harder not to smirk as the once great ACC that passed us over and over again appears to be on a downward trajectory and will soon be pulled apart at seams.
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They also had a huge number of portal players starting this season. Essentially rental players who weren’t very committed. So they reap what they sowed.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Second semifinal has been entertaining. Both teams with some costly mistakes. Now THIS is the version of Penix we saw the first half of the season. Absolutely money on deep throws. Maybe he's been banged up for a couple months and the time off helped him get healed up.
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Entertaining day for college football. Penix looks good. Love the catch by Polk.
 
Patman said:
How? And why is it the school's fault for the players going their own way?
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Why is everyone so on the side of players opting out? Like, if we gonna pay the players, least they can do is play the game.

The bowls are a bait and switch. They take FSU, and get the FSU JV.

For some reason, American fans are fascinated with tournaments. If there isn’t a tournament, it isn’t worth while.

I don’t know where it goes. Maybe they should kill bowl system. I don’t get why that makes people happy, but there is a weird thing about bowls that people don’t understand.

Soccer teams play friendlies all the time. And, the game are exciting. Are we to believe that Liberty playing the fiesta bowl is meaningless for Liberty?
 
JohnFSilver said:
Why is everyone so on the side of players opting out? Like, if we gonna pay the players, least they can do is play the game.

The bowls are a bait and switch. They take FSU, and get the FSU JV.

For some reason, American fans are fascinated with tournaments. If there isn’t a tournament, it isn’t worth while.

I don’t know where it goes. Maybe they should kill bowl system. I don’t get why that makes people happy, but there is a weird thing about bowls that people don’t understand.

Soccer teams play friendlies all the time. And, the game are exciting. Are we to believe that Liberty playing the fiesta bowl is meaningless for Liberty?
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If players were paid to play, you'd see a lot less opt outs, but there are still a lot of schools reluctant to let that happen.

This is the system that conferences and schools have created. You cant blame the players for taking advantage of it after they were exploited for 50 years plus
 
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How Sway?! said:
If players were paid to play, you'd see a lot less opt outs, but there are still a lot of schools reluctant to let that happen.

This is the system that conferences and schools have created. You cant blame the players for taking advantage of it after they were exploited for 50 years plus
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Exploited how? The vast majority of schools playing football lose money.
 
This is an EPIC meltdown by Washington. Texas still has a lot of work to do, but it is like Washington is throwing the game.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This is an EPIC meltdown by Washington. Texas still has a lot of work to do, but it is like Washington is throwing the game.
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Unbelievable clock mismanagement.

It should've never come to that though. They were absolutely dominating this game, but just weren't putting the points on the board to put it away. That 3 and out drive when they were up 13 and called 3 consecutive sand lot plays was asinine.

But they hung on. They do this every game. Sweating bullets til the clock hits double zeroes. Every game.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Unbelievable clock mismanagement.

It should've never come to that though. They were absolutely dominating this game, but just weren't putting the points on the board to put it away. That 3 and out drive when they were up 13 and called 3 consecutive sand lot plays was asinine.

But they hung on. They do this every game. Sweating bullets til the clock hits double zeroes. Every game.
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Exciting finish for me although I was pulling for Washington, I am not a big fan. I agree the game didn't have to be that close especially after that interference call on the punt. What was the Washington player thinking?

I believe Penix was 11 for 12 in the third quarter. His receiver missed his last throw at the end of the third which should have been caught. Nice game for Penix.

Two good games to close out the day and hopefully we have a good championship game next week.
 
HCCForever said:
Exciting finish for me although I was pulling for Washington, I am not a big fan. I agree the game didn't have to be that close especially after that interference call on the punt. What was the Washington player thinking?

I believe Penix was 11 for 12 in the third quarter. His receiver missed his last throw at the end of the third which should have been caught. Nice game for Penix.

Two good games to close out the day and hopefully we have a good championship game next week.
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At least the SEC is watching from home.
 
How Sway?! said:
If players were paid to play, you'd see a lot less opt outs, but there are still a lot of schools reluctant to let that happen.

This is the system that conferences and schools have created. You cant blame the players for taking advantage of it after they were exploited for 50 years plus
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Players exploited for 50 years?
U serious?

Where did that line of thought come from?
 
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