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[whaler11]

I would agree if Warde hired PP....he didn't. And he has already shown his unhappiness by pushing GDL to the side. I didn't think that was possible considering the history of loyalty PP has shown GDL. I think Warde has been very direct about what kind of success has to happen this year. Warde has no obligation to PP and I don't think with 6 wins he keeps his job. 7 would only be 50-50 in my opinion.

I'll believe the University of Connecticut fires a head football coach off a bowl bid when I see it happen.

I could be wrong but if they didn't make a change last year against that schedule - why would they make a change when 6-6 means a pretty good improvement?

 

[Srqhusky]

Saban, Miles, Peterson, Stoops......I may be missing a couple, but not many more. Shaw has done a tremendous job at Stanford and we'll see how the new Oregon coach does, but very few turn out consistent 9 win seasons.

Exactly. Going from 7-8 win to nine wins. Every year is huge. It's like having a Harley vs having an American chopper.

 

[BlueDogs]

If he has more Ws than Ls, PP stays.
If PP beats Michigan, he stays even if sub 500.
In other other circumstances, I can't see how he can or should stay.

He is the wrong guy for the program, but he is our guy. All things being equal, I'd rather have a great season and suffer with him than suffer another abysmal season.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I'll believe the University of Connecticut fires a head football coach off a bowl bid when I see it happen.

I could be wrong but if they didn't make a change last year against that schedule - why would they make a change when 6-6 means a pretty good improvement?

I think it was tough to make a change after only 2 years. Financially it is tough...and logically it is tough. PP has a strong enough reputation that he deserved the chance to play with a few of the players he recruited. Although, he does have a lot of excuses for his performance this year considering he has 2 new coordinators.

I also think this year is very different than last year. UConn is slowly getting more desperate for football success. 5 years ago, I would agree with you that 6 or 7 wins would be good enough. Things are much more urgent now and I don't think WM will hang on to a mediocre coach that he didn't hire when the future of UConn athletics is at risk.

 

[Waquoit]

The fanbase would be gnashing their teeth though, since we'd have another year of PP and WM.

I hate ignorant and "I'm above it all" posts like this one. With this schedule, the "fan base" would be ecstatic with an 8-5 season, which I'm assuming would include a bowl win. Again, the "fan base" isn't down on PP because of anything personal, they are down on him because he's been a pathetic head coach. 8-5 would be a pretty good job, it would give us hope and a bit of momentum. Momentum being something P has totally squashed with this program. The "fan base" wants to see this team win no matter who is in charge.

 

[Waquoit]

I support PP because I believe he can get us to 9+ win seasons - it just might take until season 3.

What have you seen to date that leads you to such a belief? I'm serious, I want to know. I am a glass half-full guy (i.e. this year's Sox, last season's MBB) and I can't begin to even hope that P can get us anywhere near that. Help me out.

 

[junglehusky]

I hate ignorant and "I'm above it all" posts like this one. With this schedule, the "fan base" would be ecstatic with an 8-5 season, which I'm assuming would include a bowl win. Again, the "fan base" isn't down on PP because of anything personal, they are down on him because he's been a pathetic head coach. 8-5 would be a pretty good job, it would give us hope and a bit of momentum. Momentum being something P has totally squashed with this program. The "fan base" wants to see this team win no matter who is in charge.

Well then, I'll look forward to you and the rest of the yard celebrating an 8 win season.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Well then, I'll look forward to you and the rest of the yard celebrating an 8 win season.

Did HFD take a sabbatical from the BY or get banned again? Odd he hasn't chimed in on this or any other thread recently.

But honestly, I thought HFD would be the only one not satisfied with 8 wins this year. But there are a few other posters in this thread who would not be satisfied. I wanted P fired after this year as much as anyone. But if he wins 8 games I really don't know how anyone can make a case that he should be fired. Waquoit said it well......people do not dislike P because they hate him.....they dislike him because he's been a terrible football coach the last 2 years. If he wins 8+ a year consistenly they will love him. And all of us who've knocked the guy will happily eat a big plate of crow.

 

[sdhusky]

What have you seen to date that leads you to such a belief? I'm serious, I want to know. I am a glass half-full guy (i.e. this year's Sox, last season's MBB) and I can't begin to even hope that P can get us anywhere near that. Help me out.

The list of coaches who broke through in their 3rd year is pretty long. Things can change quite a bit in one year

However, let's just look at UCONN. In 2006, we went 4-8 and only won 1 game in the BE. The next year, we tied for first in the BE.

I think the offense is going to get much better and our D will be pretty good.

P's got 9+ wins 6/14 years with 3 of them with 10 wins.

With the new conference, I like to see that more like 50/50.

 

[metsfan2323]

What have you seen to date that leads you to such a belief? I'm serious, I want to know. I am a glass half-full guy (i.e. this year's Sox, last season's MBB) and I can't begin to even hope that P can get us anywhere near that. Help me out.

Many have tried to help you out, you refuse to listen.

Our struggles have been almost entirely on offense and we have a new man in charge of the offense. That is where the hope comes from, and since you are so fond of Randy you should be excited about the return of Hank Hughes to defensive coordinator. P seems to be a coach who gives his coordinators a lot of freedom to do their own thing so two new coordinators could make a huge difference. If you are truly a half full guy as you claim to be the new coordinators should be giving you hope.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Many have tried to help you out, you refuse to listen.

Our struggles have been entirely on offense and we have a new man in charge of the offense. That is where the hope comes from, and since you are so fond of Randy you should be excited about the return of Hank Hughes to defensive coordinator. P seems to be a coach who gives his coordinators a lot of freedom to do their own thing so two new coordinators could make a huge difference. If you are truly a half full guy as you claim to be the new coordinators should be giving you hope.

As usual from you.........lots of condescending nonsense in your post. Maybe it's possible that people just simply disagree with your opinions. Maybe Waquoit was not an Edsall guy. Maybe some guys think Don Brown is a better DC than Hank (who I like). Maybe some people just see that the college game has passed P by.

You are entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean you're right. And it doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you.

 

[pj]

If you're in a bad conference, a la Boise State, you can churn out 9 win seasons. The AAC gives us a reasonable opportunity to be a perennial 9 to 10 win team. It shouldn't be hard to out-invest the other AAC schools.

 

[Waquoit]

Well then, I'll look forward to you and the rest of the yard celebrating an 8 win season.

I'll be there. I just don't see it being this season.

 

[J187Money]

If you're in a bad conference, a la Boise State, you can churn out 9 win seasons. The AAC gives us a reasonable opportunity to be a perennial 9 to 10 win team. It shouldn't be hard to out-invest the other AAC schools.

They way people tell it here we are simultaneously too good for the ACC but not good enough to compete in it.

 

[J187Money]

Does 8-5 with a bowl win count?

 

[metsfan2323]

As usual from you.........lots of condescending nonsense in your post. Maybe it's possible that people just simply disagree with your opinions. Maybe Waquoit was not an Edsall guy. Maybe some guys think Don Brown is a better DC than Hank (who I like). Maybe some people just see that the college game has passed P by.

You are entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean you're right. And it doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you.

There isn't one bit of nonsense in my post. I said the new coordinators give us reason to hope and hope itself is not always right. Hope can be wrong. Maybe the new coordinators don't make a difference and P gets fired, but I hope that doesn't happen.

BTW the person I responded to was asking for Help, I wasn't writing that for you, Jerk.

 

[Waquoit]

Many have tried to help you out, you refuse to listen.

Our struggles have been almost entirely on offense and we have a new man in charge of the offense. That is where the hope comes from, and since you are so fond of Randy you should be excited about the return of Hank Hughes to defensive coordinator. P seems to be a coach who gives his coordinators a lot of freedom to do their own thing so two new coordinators could make a huge difference. If you are truly a half full guy as you claim to be the new coordinators should be giving you hope.

I'm listening alright. Half your point makes no sense. You see a new D coordinator as a positive? Wasn't the guy who left considered the best DC in the history of the program? The best we can expect there is a push. I guess the hope is the new OC is a miracle worker. My issue is that the HC is still the same, he's shown the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on gameday. I like sd's "3rd year is a charm" theory. There a bit of hope there. But I see no spark from the team under P's leadership, I don't see that changing just because of a new OC. The OC may have lattitude be he isn't in charge. Like I said I hope you guys are right, the ride home is lot better after a win. I'm saving up for the bowl game, just in case.

 

[metsfan2323]

I'm saving up for the bowl game, just in case.

So you do have hope.

 

[J187Money]

That's the definition of hope.

 

[sdhusky]

I'm listening alright. Half your point makes no sense. You see a new D coordinator as a positive? Wasn't the guy who left considered the best DC in the history of the program? The best we can expect there is a push.

For whatever reason, Brown's D did not turn the ball over at UCONN.

We get better at that and the defense will do more to help us win even if the stats are a bit worse.

 

[huskymedic]

Did HFD take a sabbatical from the BY or get banned again? Odd he hasn't chimed in on this or any other thread recently.

Gone.... last seen taking pokes @ Mods

 

[pj]

The only valid excuse for not having hope is that you're dead.

 

[Waquoit]

For whatever reason, Brown's D did not turn the ball over at UCONN.

We get better at that and the defense will do more to help us win even if the stats are a bit worse.

That would be big. I read an article that influenced my thinking about this. It made the case that causing turnovers has a significant luck factor involved. Even so, perhaps we're due for a season with the D turning the ball over more.

 

[metsfan2323]

For whatever reason, Brown's D did not turn the ball over at UCONN.

We get better at that and the defense will do more to help us win even if the stats are a bit worse.

They were also horrendous in the red zone.


I actually liked Don Brown and I don't think him leaving is a good thing, but i'm glad we have someone like Hank Hughes to take over. P is also an experienced defensive coordinator and they have publicly claimed that they will stay aggressive, we'll see..

 

[UCFBfan]

To be perfectly clear... I meant to say if we got to 5 or 6 wins with enough games left with a possibility of 7-8 wins, that's when I think a some 'Yarders would start rooting for UConn to lose out. Hypothetically speaking, let's say it goes like -

Towson - W
Maryland - L
Michigan - L
@Buffalo - W
USF - W
@Cincy - L
@UCF - L
UL -L
@SMU - W


That's 4 wins out of 9 games. Probably a reasonable projection given how last season went, maybe switch UCF or Maryland for a fifth win, or one of the other games for a WTF fifth win. At this point we have @Temple, Rutgers and Memphis to close out the season; Memphis should be a win barring a total late season collapse (not impossible if the mood in the locker room is bad at the end of a dismal season). So, if we have 4 or 5 wins at that point, you would project the Temple and RU games would basically be the team playing to keep PP's job. And that's when we'll find out which fans want UConn to tank for rebuilding with a new HC.

Actually, in drawing that up, I kind of realized the two barometer games for the program in the first half of next season could very well be Maryland and USF. Win both and we're likely 4-1 heading into Cincinnatti. Lose both and we're 2-3 with only one I-A level win - against a MAC team. So maybe the #FirePasqualoni bandwagon can get in on the action early by rooting for... Randy Edsall.

This is what I was thinking too in regards to what games we'd have won leading up to being 6-6. You look at that list of wins and if you throw in beating Temple and Memphis then it's an uninspiring win amount. I can see some on the 'Yard not wanting a 6th win. Maybe not saying it outloud but who knows.

I think the style of play will be a big part as well. If Weist is given his freedom and we improve offensively, ie not running up the middle every first down, we should ve better than 6-6. If the offense shows improvement and we go into Memphis game needing a win to get to 6 wins, I'd be more apt to accept PP staying another year.

It comes down to who we beat and how much we improve offensively.

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[BoatShow]

I see your username and think you're a UCF fan...every single time.

 

[whaler11]

This is what I was thinking too in regards to what games we'd have won leading up to being 6-6. You look at that list of wins and if you throw in beating Temple and Memphis then it's an uninspiring win amount. I can see some on the 'Yard not wanting a 6th win. Maybe not saying it outloud but who knows.

I think the style of play will be a big part as well. If Weist is given his freedom and we improve offensively, ie not running up the middle every first down, we should ve better than 6-6. If the offense shows improvement and we go into Memphis game needing a win to get to 6 wins, I'd be more apt to accept PP staying another year.

It comes down to who we beat and how much we improve offensively.

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I think it's 25% style and 75% roster composition. If they win six with P recruits contributing at a bunch of positions you can see the light at end of tunnel.

 

[jbdphi]

I think it's 25% style and 75% roster composition. If they win six with P recruits contributing at a bunch of positions you can see the light at end of tunnel.

I'm not sure where P recruits will make big inroads on the offense this year other than Whitmer (which some people won't consider a P recruit). The OL is pretty much all set with last year's starters, none of which is P's, same on WR and RB. I guess Clax at FB? Not exactly the highest impact position and then McQuillan at TE but I can't remember if he's P's guy.

On the defensive side, maybe Norris and Myers on the DL. Donohue (who was arguably a Brown guy) / Stewart at LB and maybe J Williams at CB? Not sure if you really count Ashiru as P's guy either.

Of course, all of this is moot if Cochrane, Lagow or Boyle end up winning the QB competition since that position comes with so much recognition and we do seem to be very deep there with P guys.

 

[huskymedic]

I'm not sure where P recruits will make big inroads on the offense this year other than Whitmer (which some people won't consider a P recruit). The OL is pretty much all set with last year's starters, none of which is P's, same on WR and RB. I guess Clax at FB? Not exactly the highest impact position and then McQuillan at TE but I can't remember if he's P's guy.

On the defensive side, maybe Norris and Myers on the DL. Donohue (who was arguably a Brown guy) / Stewart at LB and maybe J Williams at CB? Not sure if you really count Ashiru as P's guy either.

Of course, all of this is moot if Cochrane, Lagow or Boyle end up winning the QB competition since that position comes with so much recognition and we do seem to be very deep there with P guys.

Jefferson Ashiru, Xavier Hemingway and Julian Campenni are all PP recruits. They were not previously committed to RE.

Whitmer transferred to UConn in the early spring of 2012 so he is PP as well.

 

[EJHarrington]

Win AAC conference and get automatic bid to BCS Bowl
Win Bowl Game (BCS or otherwise)
Win home games
Show MUCH improvement on offense
Keep defense steady / comparable to last year

These are my pre-printed report card subjects; the cumulative grades I give at end of season will determine my feelings of the season and whether PP should stay or go.