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While six wins may well get him the job, it would be after a thorough search. I'm not sure that anything shy of winning the conference and looking somewhat competitive in a BCS bowl would stop the search for the best possible candidate.
 
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It's always "all on Ollie". So going undefeated in the AAC does not get TJW the gig?
Since when does UConn basketball recruit itself? You declared UConn is a midmajor with a "Stewart type pick as coach in Ollie" who will win a few good games in the regular season but flame out in NCAA's , isn't that your stance on basketball? Ollie can't recruit/win at a mid major like UConn. Or has you opinion changed?
You seem to be the one who's fixated on Ollie, not me. I used a very specific example of a somewhat similar situation, where the interim head coach took a program that had not had a winning season in over a decade, won the 2nd most games in program history and was still replaced. Which indicates to me me that Manuel will have a very high standard for Weist, and 6 wins while a good performance probably does not meet that standard. Now explain what that has to do with Ollie? As to the UConn recruits itself line, it was meant in comparison to the football program. UConn gets at least consideration from blue chippers from around the country for basketball, players who would not consider say UMass or some other A-10 school. In football we're the A-10 school (another comparison, H68. I know UConn isn't in the A-10 so you don't have to write a post pointing that out.) when it comes to recruiting. Alabama can get looks from guys who won't return UConn's call. And I'm not sure where you got the Ollie can't recruit/win at a mid-major school bit, either. I've said he is incredibly lucky in some senses because UConn is now in a league where he will not have to worry about winning. Other than Cincy, Temple and Memphis, the basketball side of the AAC is dismal. Most of these programs would be thrilled to play in the NIT, and so would their fans if they had any. The down side of that is that it will be tougher to stay as a major program because the league is so weak. Lower RPI, less coverage (UConn-East Carolina ain't going to be must see tv)But if you want to be a "big time" basketball program it doesn't make any difference if you win in the regular season so that's a positive. Who won the Big 10 last year? Who won the PAC? Nobody cares. What matters is what you do in the last 2 weeks of March. We have no idea what Ollie will do in the Dance. There are lost of guys who put up gaudy numbers in the regular season only to flame out in March. Barnes is a good example. Last year was a love fest but there was no pressure on the team (admittedly there was some on Ollie). Let's see what happens down 3 with 0:15 left in a 2nd round game to the 9 seed.
 
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Let's see what happens down 3 with 0:15 left in a 2nd round game to the 9 seed.


We know you will be rooting for the 9 seed.

If Warde fires Weist after 6 wins we will stuff you up Warde's ass (metaphorically speaking).
 
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LOL.......if they have 5 wins going into the Memphis game we won't have to wait til Dec. to find out Weist got the job.
 
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Here here!!! Seems to me I've heard two arguments for him getting the permanent gig. 1. He worked at Michigan at the same time Warde did; and 2. he is an upbeat guy. Neither of those are enough in my estimation to give him anything. 7-8 wins, then he gets legit consideration. 4-6 wins he gets a courtesy interview. Anything less and he gets the home version of UConnopoly as a parting gift.
are you kidding me? If he goes 4-4 the rest of the way with this trainwreck he doesn't get the job? I beg to differ. With any kind of offense at all we could easily be 3-1 right now. 4 wins would be a huge program turnaround.
 
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are you kidding me? If he goes 4-4 the rest of the way with this trainwreck he doesn't get the job? I beg to differ. With any kind of offense at all we could easily be 3-1 right now. 4 wins would be a huge program turnaround.

4 wins he gets consideration. Anything less than 4 and he probably doesn't get the gig (barring some unforeseen circumstances). My take:

6 wins or more - near lock to get the job
5 wins - strong consideration.....I would bet he gets the job
4 wins - gets him a look but it's wide open
3 wins or less - probably will land him elsewhere next year
 
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4 wins he gets consideration. Anything less than 4 and he probably doesn't get the gig (barring some unforeseen circumstances). My take:

6 wins or more - near lock to get the job
5 wins - strong consideration.....I would bet he gets the job
4 wins - gets him a look but it's wide open
3 wins or less - probably will land him elsewhere next year
I guess it depends on how the offense looks. If he puts an exciting offense on the field, and that means an effective running game, and the team looks and feels like a team again, he gets the job even with 4 wins. If we get 4 wins but look like we do now, no excitement, no offense, then he's out. It's going to be the eye test all the way. All the way.
 
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I guess it depends on how the offense looks. If he puts an exciting offense on the field, and that means an effective running game, and the team looks and feels like a team again, he gets the job even with 4 wins. If we get 4 wins but look like we do now, no excitement, no offense, then he's out. It's going to be the eye test all the way. All the way.


Yup, if he goes 4-4 and we are very competitive in all 4 losses and lose a heartbreaker or two he probably gets the job, if we go 4-4 but have 3 blowout losses, doubtful he gets it.

He basically needs to motivate these players to bring the Michigan effort to every game and show he can win. If at the end of that the players want him back and recruiting is going well TJ will be tough to beat. I sure hope he succeeds because that will mean we had some fun the rest of the year.
 
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I'm just telling you what Warde did when it came time to hire a hockey coach. Assistant was promoted to Interim head coach with a team that was 0-4-1. He ended the season a 4 seed in the conference tournament, first winning season in 12 years, 19 wins, 2nd most in the D1 era, .500 non-conference record for the first time in the D1 era, a win over a Hockey East opponent, replaced the record setting goalie with a guy who had spent 3 years on the bench, took the nation's #1 to the limit and when seeding was on the line he went 10-3-2 down the stretch. And his players were practically begging Warde to give him the permanent gig. They would have skated through a wall into a pit of fire for the guy. And he is now the Assistant at Providence College and Mike Cavannaugh is the head coach of mens hockey. I followed that situation fairly closely through friends associated with the program, and when 2 time NCAA Champ George Gwardeky became available, everyone I knew figured that was the only thing that might derail Berard. The way Ward handled the hockey search leads me to believe that he will have a very high bar because honestly, you couldn't have asked anyone to do a better job than Berard did as interim head coach taking a team with a history of losing and turning the tables to go 19-10-3 like he did was remarkable. Not sure how high, but based on his action in that case, I don't expect 6 wins to get it done. And this absolutely will not be an Ollie situation where he announces an extension at the Rutgers game. This choice is too important not to check out who might be available. In some ways, an argument could be made that what Warde does with this job is far more important than even replacing Calhoun was because as much as UConn fans care about basketball success, if we're ever to get out of this mess of a league, it will be football, not basketball that is responsible. So he can't make a feel good choice. He can't have a "Bill Stewart" moment. and I sometimes wonder if some of you guys even know who Bill was or what that even means...
 
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4 wins he gets consideration. Anything less than 4 and he probably doesn't get the gig (barring some unforeseen circumstances). My take:

6 wins or more - near lock to get the job
5 wins - strong consideration.....I would bet he gets the job
4 wins - gets him a look but it's wide open
3 wins or less - probably will land him elsewhere next year
No chance with less than 6. None. Even at 6 he probably gets only a courtesy interview. I don't care If UConn looks like the New England Patriots on Offense and the old Pittsburgh Steelers Steel Curtain on Defense. I don't care if the players like him so much the marry his dogs and live on his front steps just to be near him in the off season. He doesn't win 7-8 games he gets a "thanks for your help" and a nice letter of recommendation for his next job. By the way, I expect none of those things to happen. This is a team that has some real problems and those won't likely be fixed quickly.
 
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I'm just telling you what Warde did when it came time to hire a hockey coach. Assistant was promoted to Interim head coach with a team that was 0-4-1. He ended the season a 4 seed in the conference tournament, first winning season in 12 years, 19 wins, 2nd most in the D1 era, .500 non-conference record for the first time in the D1 era, a win over a Hockey East opponent, replaced the record setting goalie with a guy who had spent 3 years on the bench, took the nation's #1 to the limit and when seeding was on the line he went 10-3-2 down the stretch. And his players were practically begging Warde to give him the permanent gig. They would have skated through a wall into a pit of fire for the guy. And he is now the Assistant at Providence College and Mike Cavannaugh is the head coach of mens hockey. I followed that situation fairly closely through friends associated with the program, and when 2 time NCAA Champ George Gwardeky became available, everyone I knew figured that was the only thing that might derail Berard. The way Ward handled the hockey search leads me to believe that he will have a very high bar because honestly, you couldn't have asked anyone to do a better job than Berard did as interim head coach taking a team with a history of losing and turning the tables to go 19-10-3 like he did was remarkable. Not sure how high, but based on his action in that case, I don't expect 6 wins to get it done. And this absolutely will not be an Ollie situation where he announces an extension at the Rutgers game. This choice is too important not to check out who might be available. In some ways, an argument could be made that what Warde does with this job is far more important than even replacing Calhoun was because as much as UConn fans care about basketball success, if we're ever to get out of this mess of a league, it will be football, not basketball that is responsible. So he can't make a feel good choice. He can't have a "Bill Stewart" moment. and I sometimes wonder if some of you guys even know who Bill was or what that even means...
I don't think the situations are he same.
1. This coach was brought in by Warde. possibly as PP replacement.
2. This coach is a Michigan man. and blood is thinker than water.
 
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I don't think the situations are he same.
1. This coach was brought in by Warde. possibly as PP replacement.
2. This coach is a Michigan man. and blood is thinker than water.
No and No.
 
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Here's what gets him hired.
Winning 7-8 games (even if due merely to fluke plays, nice bounces and a few WTF calls by the refs in our favor.)
OR
Winning 5-6 games with the following:
Boyle becoming a standout, our receivers shining and our running game on full throttle.
Our fans actually pumped and excited all game long.
Increased attendance and donations!!
Increased interest from the national media.
Playing with energy, winning with passion, losing with class but never quitting till the final gun.

He's got the character that SH demands. She wants him to succeed. At the press conference I thought he displayed that elusive "it" factor. It's his job for the taking. For starters, he has to rev up Husky Nation. USF must be beaten like a wet mule. I can't wait.
 

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As seldom as I agree with scooter I do (to a point) agree here.

WM is not calling off a national coaching search unless somehow TJ runs the table. If TJ does very well (in terms of how the players respond more so than wins vs losses) he will get consideration and yes, he may well be able to convince Warde that he is the best candidate but I believe that Warde will be very thorough before making the decision. I also believe that Warde is looking at bigger game than TJ for the job at the moment. Weist will need to convince WM that he can lead us to where WM wants us to be.
 
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If Weist magically wins 6 with a Freshman QB and what looks like a bad team (very unlikely it happens) he will be AAC coach of the year, we will be on our way to a decent bowl game finishing no worse than third in the league and Bob's will be selling "TJ Weist is God" T-shirts. TJ will be nationally known as a miracle worker....

....But some think we will turn that away for a "Big Name". The biggest name in CT will be TJ Weist.
 
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If Weist magically wins 6 with a Freshman QB and what looks like a bad team (very unlikely it happens) he will be AAC coach of the year, we will be on our way to a decent bowl game finishing no worse than third in the league and Bob's will be selling "TJ Weist is God" T-shirts. TJ will be nationally known as a miracle worker....

....But some think we will turn that away for a "Big Name". The biggest name in CT will be TJ Weist.

Yeah. The search will go on. But Weist gets the job with 6 wins.
 
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If TJ manages 4-4 (which is no small matter given the state of the team)I think they give him anothervyear to prove he can do better, unless there is an exceptional "must have" candidate. I still thinks he gets to 5-3. If he gets a W under his belt this week, there will be buy-in and belief. They will have a shot against L'ville, mark my words.
 
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If TJ manages 4-4 (which is no small matter given the state of the team)I think they give him anothervyear to prove he can do better, unless there is an exceptional "must have" candidate. I still thinks he gets to 5-3. If he gets a W under his belt this week, there will be buy-in and belief. They will have a shot against L'ville, mark my words.

No shot against Louisville, and rationally, I don't think even Knute Rockne could squeeze more than four wins out of the remainder of this schedule. There is so much to be done and undone, and not much time. If TJ gets to 4 wins it will be a minor miracle. If he does that I'll be very surprised. But this talk of 6 or 7 wins? Not a buyer.
 

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If TJ gets the job without a national search for going 4-4 in this disgrace of a league I might have to take a good hard look at finding a new hobby. If that happens you can pretty much forget this athletic department.

There is really no realistic outcome that shouldn't end in a well run process to determine the next coach. If it's TJ good for him - but there had better be a legitimate process.
 
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If TJ manages 4-4 (which is no small matter given the state of the team)I think they give him anothervyear to prove he can do better, unless there is an exceptional "must have" candidate. I still thinks he gets to 5-3. If he gets a W under his belt this week, there will be buy-in and belief. They will have a shot against L'ville, mark my words.
I agree that it won't be easy to turn things around, but on the other hand, getting 4 wins means beating USF, Temple, SMU, and Memphis. Those 4 are a combined 2-10, so while it would be an improvement for us it wouldn't exactly be comparable to running the table in the SEC. And SMU's win was by a point over an FCS team. So I'll say again, 4 wins gets him a pat on the back and a nice letter of thanks. Can't believe some of you want to give the guy the head coach's job for winning games against that pile of horse spit. Seriously...I hope he turns it around, but you have to do more than beat 4 of the worst teams in FBS football.
 
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I don't think the situations are he same.
1. This coach was brought in by Warde. possibly as PP replacement.
2. This coach is a Michigan man. and blood is thinker than water.

The hockey coaching search was telling ... but I agree with AZ on this one. Warde will give Weist a long, hard look because that is why he brought him here. It was no fluke that Weist maintained his calm the entire time ... he had an idea this whole scenario would play out the way it has.
 
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