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From Don Amore's twitter....

NCAA's emmert: :" idea of using most recent APR data is ...valid. we want to use most recent data w/ comparability across all institutions
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I also wasn't sure how to interpret that. My initial thought is that it's a good thing for UCONN.
 
What he is saying is that using the latest data is a good idea, but they would have to be able to have that data for all institutions. If they can't have it across the board, they can't use it.

Something tells me they won't be able to use the latest data, so they will default to the stale data and use that.
 
Now I think Emmert is f()cking with us.....I won't get my hopes up....
 
Fishy said:
What he is saying is that using the latest data is a good idea, but they would have to be able to have that data for all institutions. If they can't have it across the board, they can't use it.

Something tells me they won't be able to use the latest data, so they will default to the stale data and use that.
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Being in education and in a district that is "data driven", it never ceases to amaze me how all of the "data driven" decisions are arrived at about 3 months too late because it takes far too long for the data to be delivered and analyzed by the "decision makers".
 
NCAA's emmert: :" idea of using most recent APR data is ...valid. we want to use most recent data w/ comparability across all institutions

Translation: "It makes sense, but we're still going to penalize UConn because Bumduck State University doesn't report until November"
 
Emmert says this is the first time they have dealt with an appeal regarding this situation, well then wtf was the situation regarding the Louisiana school that applied for a waiver and was quickly granted? Was that the appeal process or were they automatically granted a waiver like we were hoping to get when we self imposed penalties? I don't expect the national media to cover it because Calhoun getting screwed>>>>innocent kids getting screwed, but you would at least hope the Horde would try to cover it and find out some answers from the NCAA on why they ruled so differently in two cases. A school with no chance of competing in the 12 tourney "voluntarily" giving it up is unacceptable to me as justification.
 
Wait, the APR is an absolute standard not a relative one. What the heck do we care if East BumFrack U doesn't have there data, as long as ours is available? Emmert's statement makes no sense.

Best thing from that article is that the right questions are being asked.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
NCAA's emmert: :" idea of using most recent APR data is ...valid. we want to use most recent data w/ comparability across all institutions

Translation: "It makes sense, but we're still going to penalize UConn because Bumduck State University doesn't report until November"
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Lol see my quote above. Apparently we picked rival schools from the same state.
 
Fishy said:
What he is saying is that using the latest data is a good idea, but they would have to be able to have that data for all institutions. If they can't have it across the board, they can't use it.

Something tells me they won't be able to use the latest data, so they will default to the stale data and use that.
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that is exactly how i read it. his quote is filled with slimy, lawyer-speak and doubletalk (no offense to the more hygenic lawyers on this board who prefer singletalk). as if he is saying, yes, we want to use the MOST recent data that will allow for comparability across ALL institutions (snicker). i will not stop until we can support the most recent data that is considerate of all schools (snicker), including those institutions that are on tri-mesters, quad-mesters, online cooking schools, all of the chuck e. cheese universities in north america, community colleges with partial qualifiers and universities in american samoa (snicker). we will take the most recent data that of these schools can produce reliably and accurately. book it.
 
If our APR number comes out, and it's good enough to qualify along with last year's number, and we are still banned from the NCAA tournament because they couldn't figure out a way to make this work ... I can't even take this anymore. This has got to stop.
 
No, it's not good news. Just think about it, what else was he going to say? It was about the only answer he could give.

The way the implementation of the new rules has gone down is about as good as the NCAA could hope for. If it had been a dozen teams that could be in the tournament that were getting the post season ban everyone would be up in arms about it; and the NCAA would look like dicks when they had to eventually capitulate. Instead, they're going to get an immediate impact, they'll have done something that shows they mean business and no one outside of UConn is really going to complain(which to everyone else will seem like sour grapes). Really the only way the NCAA is going to take a PR hit is if they give UConn a waiver.

If you can't tell I'm an optimist, but, seriously, just make peace with the fact that we're not going to the tournament next year.
 
Inyatkin said:
If our APR number comes out, and it's good enough to qualify along with last year's number, and we are still banned from the NCAA tournament because they couldn't figure out a way to make this work ... I can't even take this anymore. This has got to stop.
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You think that is bad, wait until they decide to use more up-to-date numbers and a team like UK, Syracuse, etc. is allowed a free one year pass when the NCAA skips the data that would have them banned. That will happen if they ever decide to make the change to current data.

You could argue switching it now would give UConn the one year pass, but the difference would be teams from here on out know what the NCAA is doing and all data would be reflective of the schools knowing and planning for such penalties.
 
CL82 said:
Wait, the APR is an absolute standard not a relative one. What the heck do we care if East BumFrack U doesn't have there data, as long as ours is available? Emmert's statement makes no sense.

Best thing from that article is that the right questions are being asked.
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Even though I don't believe him, lets give him the part where he does not think they can get all the info together in time. Why not see who does not qualify, as an example there are 10 teams ( including UConn). Why not just look at the most current info from these 10 teams. If you are still under the standard you are out of tourney. If you meet standard with most current info you are in. This way you do not need everyone's data. This only seems fair, but that is probably the reason it will not happen.
 
Because that's logical and it would deprive them of the 'Ooo, look how serious we are!' press clippings they'd get if they were able to exclude a three-time national champion.
 
Fishy said:
Because that's logical and it would deprive them of the 'Ooo, look how serious we are!' press clippings they'd get if they were able to exclude a three-time national champion.
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It would be nice if we were dealing with an organization interested in something more important than a pat on the back from Pat Forde. But we're not.
 
caw said:
You think that is bad, wait until they decide to use more up-to-date numbers and a team like UK, Syracuse, etc. is allowed a free one year pass when the NCAA skips the data that would have them banned. That will happen if they ever decide to make the change to current data.

You could argue switching it now would give UConn the one year pass, but the difference would be teams from here on out know what the NCAA is doing and all data would be reflective of the schools knowing and planning for such penalties.
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I thought the same damn thing. Really sickening.
 
CL82 said:
Lol see my quote above. Apparently we picked rival schools from the same state.
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Rivals? I don't think so. EBFU is a cupcake paid a few grand to lose by 30 at BFSU's palatial home arena each November.
 
I really thought the first Boatright situation would be cleared up quickly. The second time I was less optimistic and the resolution took much longer than I'd expected but at least avoided the worst case scenario.

I think given incidents over the past few years the experience has taught us it'll take much longer than we can imagine to get a decision and if (in contrast to a court of law) there is a even a shadow of possibility that UConn is in the wrong UConn is getting punished. Next winter might be a good time to follow hockey.
 
I'd say its not bad news but it doesn't really mean anything unless its feasible and I think they are going to decide that at least for this coming year it isn't.
 
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