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Message: [QUOTE="SECbbfan24, post: 3505602, member: 9360"] No reason to give up at all. Listen, Vic was a complete unknown when you hired him. His background wasn't super impressive. He made some very good hires and allowed two really good recruits (Vivians and McCowan) help transform that program into what it is today. The success and brand built the last few years have lead to a massive influx of talent. The fan base has grown exponentially. They still have tools and attributes to attract and field good teams, not saying it will be easy moving forward but not all is completely lost. MSU still has a lot of talent. Like I said if they make a good hire, they can still be pretty good moving forward. If J. Harris wants the job give it to her. Let her make some good hires. [/QUOTE]